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    <title><![CDATA[Enhence the partionning tool of Ubuntu installation]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/19218/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[Well, let me frankly say that I find this partitioning tool really strange :<br /><br />- What is the goal of the colors (green, orange...) used for different partitions exactly ? It does not correspond to nothing ! We should use color for a true information (see solution 1)<br /><br />- Why by god the application propose by default to completely erase existing partitions, this is ridiculous ! The user can, by mistake, loose all his data and existing OS by this way ! (and then never go back to linux, you can be sure of that). i propose solution 2..<br /><br />- Not really clear for new user what is / or /home and so on... solution 3.<br /><br />Thanks folks.<br />
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<b>[615 votes] Solution #1: One color = one filesystem !</b>
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<b>[703 votes] Solution #2: Do not propose to erase existing OS by default !</b>
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<b>[703 votes] Solution #3: Give some explanation about / and /home etc.</b>
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<b>[-128 votes] Solution #4: Use GParted</b>
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<b>[176 votes] Solution #6: Make the colour bar the dominant tool</b>
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<b>[83 votes] Solution #7: A variety of smart options</b>
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<b>[85 votes] Solution #9: Display info about directories & their purpose</b>
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<b>[-23 votes] Solution #10: Enhance & Simply GParted Functionalities</b>
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<b>[7 votes] Solution #11: bring GParted back as an option</b>
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<b>[27 votes] Solution #13: Alert new users to benefits of separate /home partition</b>
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<b>[5 votes] Solution #14: Simplified option for manual partitioning.</b>
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<b>[5 votes] Solution #15: Add LVM and RAID Support</b>
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<b>[3 votes] Solution #16: Automatically quick benchmark disks and recommend partition scheme</b>
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  <title>Comment from Psycho_zs</title>
  <description><![CDATA[#3 by all means! I remember my first encounter with linux installation, it was very hard to figure out what was all that gibberish about ""/" mount point not defined"<br />#4 also would be good, as gparted is much more rational, logical and representative, than fancy installation partitioner.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 05:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from fizyk</title>
  <description><![CDATA[nandayo, check how your solution #1 would look if you'd have few ext3 partitions next to another without ntfs between. I think that would be hard to tell where one partition ends and another starts ;)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Endolith</title>
  <description><![CDATA[GParted is useful, but it's more of an advanced tool.  I think the installer should just have a simple partitioning tool built in.  Maybe more advanced features should be available (or maybe just an option to launch GParted), but they aren't needed in most cases and would increase the likelihood of the user hosing their system.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from OpenNingia</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Solution #3 is a must! <br /><br />common user doesn't even know what a partition is!<br /><br />what about using a name convention?<br /><br />/ = "System"<br />/home = "User"<br />/var = "Auxiliary"<br />/tmp = "Temporary"<br /><br />etc...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nandayo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@fizyk : absolutely not :-)  Look at gparted, or partition magic, or any partioning tool, it just needs to make a clear delimitation between different partitions whatever their type is, that's all ;)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nandayo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@OpenNingia : I agree with thins kind of name convention at least for very usual ones (that means / and /home at least !)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nloewen</title>
  <description><![CDATA[solution #2:<br />The default actually leaves existing partitions and resizes them to make room for ubuntu.<br />solution #3:<br />A beginer doesn't even need to go into the advanced partitioning. There's a reason the basic options are there.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cousteau</title>
  <description><![CDATA[#1: different colors are used to separate partitions, like those in a map. Now imagine you have 2 ntfs partitions, 3 ext3, 2 fat32 and 1 swap...<br /><br />Maybe light/dark colors could be used to avoid this.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nandayo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Damn folks, stop saying trash ! If you have two consecutive partitions with the same filesystem, there is NO PROBLEM event if they are the same color! ALL partition softwares use this convention !! Gparted, Partition magic, they all use one color = one filesystem, and don't tell your consecutive partitions are not visible with those software ?? Just need to clearly delimitate partitions, that's all !!!<br /><br />So please stop and think a little for one time, by god !]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from AndrewLuecke</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Dandrini is spamming.. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from lady</title>
  <description><![CDATA[For those who have sight problems, it might be easier to keep it the way it is to make separate partitions more obvious. For those who are more technically-advanced and concerned with being able to easily differentiate between different file systems, I understand that having a separate color for each filesystem might be more desirable. Since the installation cd will be used by everyone (regardless of visual acuity), I think that the current layout would better suit a larger number of people. <br /><br />Besides, one doesn't use an installation cd for long -- you install the operating system and then you're done. If it is an inconvenience, it doesn't last long. However, if it becomes a large problem, I think a great solution would be to have the current configuration enabled by default and if you want to change the color coding, you can do so with a dropdown menu or radiobutton.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Ssdg</title>
  <description><![CDATA[About the idea of using gparted... I don't think it's a bad idea, it worked very well a few years ago when it was included the installation process.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from marine247</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think a great way to enhance the partitioning tool of Ubuntu is to borrow something from the Fedora Project -> The ability to setup RAID "automatically" when the installer detect 2 or more HDDs. <br /><br />I am aware that Unbuntu does let you set this up at runtime... if you know what you are doing. It would be a great convenience facto to the user to just set this up for them. For starters lets say "Choose Mirroring or Striping" with a basic definition for each. Thoughts? ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from alelinuxbsd</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I like the solution #2 and #1 i think that solutions are very logical.<br /><br />	<br />The idea of using gparted directly into the system, although I think it is a nice and interesting, I have some uncertainty because it's an environment with more functionality and, potentially, more complex.<br /><br />This is why I preferred not to vote yet the solution #4.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 06:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from rpgmaker</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Man, you hit the nail on the head with this one. Just a few days ago I had a friend that in the middle of the ubuntu installation HAD to figure out what the hell / and /home were. Of course he would've known what they were if he read a little bit about the linux installation beforehand AND ubuntu is linux for human beings.. human beings don't read!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nandayo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@rpgmaker : perfectly summed-up human beings ! ;-)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 11:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Ssdg</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@rpgmaker: Humans the only species able to think at an high level and the only one that don't want to. ;)<br /><br />If he didn't wanted to do complex stuff, there was the "use free space" option.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Penguin Guy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I was a newb 2 months ago and I almost quit Linux because of this tool; on the other hand I found GParted way simpler and newb-friendly. I you honestly think the Ubuntu partitioner is newb-friendly you are COMPLETELY wrong.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Endolith</title>
  <description><![CDATA[#13 New users have no way of predicting how much space they will need for Home, and how much they will need for the system.  It provides them no benefit, and lots of headaches.<br /><br />-1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from AndrewLuecke</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Exactly Endolith. Splitting /home has no benefits in a properly designed installer, and really does. Same as forcing users to create swap partitions instead of swap files. <br /><br />If you split it up into more then 1 partition, the users then need to resize partitions, which isn't the safest operation to perform!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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