Written by zephyrcat the 9 Apr 09 at 03:18.
Category: System.
Related project:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
Rationale
Virtualization is still a somewhat alien concept to the average PC user and, to the extent most people know about it, they think of it as something they buy in a box from VMWare or Parallels. (And, if you were on a Mac, that was the only reasonable place you could get virtualization software until recently.) VirtualBox, though, opens the opportunity to have easy-to-use virtualization built right in. It seems like a missed opportunity not to make installing a Windows VM seamless.
Face the truth. Ubuntu and any other linux flavour do not have all applications one user needs. Be it Outlook 2007 or Visio (any version), or even SQL Management Studio 2005 (my case on business ubuntu notebook).
Users need these tools, so why should we make them harder to switch, by not letting them use apps they NEED by default?
Darwin Survivor(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 9 Apr 09 at 20:07
Ubuntu already has some rudimentary support for auto-detecting media that has been inserted.
There should be an effort to come up with a list of as many different types of media conceivable and implement ways they can be used.
-packages: offer to install (already done)
-windows applications: offer to install in wine/crossover
-OS disk: offer to install software from it (if same OS) or to install into a new VritualBox/vmWare/xen container.
I think you will find that people that think they need to run apps such as SQL Management Studio either already know how to install virtualbox and install windows.
For the average joe user Ubuntu has the apps they want (with the possible exception of iTunes), web browsing, music/video players, office products.
For the smarter than average joe, like sql developers, or any developers installing virtualbox or any of the others like it should be a walk in the park.
If your work laptop is provided because your job is to work with Microsoft SQL then FFS just use windows or get your database moved to mysql.
I'd agree with you guys, but I used to work at an Applecentre and MANY people needed VMware, despite OSX supporting many more applications.
And that's OSX, where there are MANY more high quality apps (Linux still has gaping holes where product replacements don't exist). It's time to start thinking about transitional technologies, backwards AND forward compatibility.
Because at the moment, resources are being squandered reduplicating efforts (a good example is the continuous repacking and incompatible packaging standards), and other areas remain untouched. Microsoft understands backwards compatibility EXTREMELY well, which is why Windows 7 still runs most Windows 95 programs, and has XP mode built in..
OSX understands it too, Apple offered classic support for many years (built in), and then offered universal binary support (they also offer Windows drivers and such for their hardware). Linux needs to accept that if they want to grow, they need to chip into the windows market-share, and therefore, make it easy to run such apps.
Because even the official tax submission program here (eTax), is a VERY basic app but has issues in Wine. Furthermore, the tax office might support OSX, but they CAN'T support Linux, because there are too many distro's and the distro's aren't collaborating, which makes it impossible for any of their developers to be sure that people's tax submissions worked properly.
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