Idea
#1899: Partner with big name game developers
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Written by heavyal the 29 Feb 08 at 22:32.
Category: Gaming.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
This is total pie in the sky but it would be great to see some kind of partnership with the big gaming companies such as EA, Blizzard, Bethesda or some such where we could actually work with them in bringing their outstanding game releases to our platform.
Developer comments
This cannot be done just by the Ubuntu community or Canonical alone. The only true way to achieve any action by the big commercial game developers is to have (lots and lots of) individual gamers contact the support-teams of those companies and demand that they want to be able to play their games natively on their Ubuntu machines. They have to point out that native really means a native port and not one of those half-hearted wine-solutions. id Software and Epic can do it so it cannot be that hard. There are even first rumours that Valve is planning to port their Source-engine natively to Linux.
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I don't think Wine ports count as "half-hearted". When Wine supports the application, a Wine port is fully functional and full speed - what more could you want?
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Greyor wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 22:36
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This sort of thing generally only happens after the fact. Game companies are not usually willing to sink R&D time into an OS that most people don't use -- but most people don't use it because of that -- so it's a Catch-22, to be sure.
id Software ended up releasing the Quake source code after awhile, and they have supported Linux ports of Return to Castle Wolfenstein -- but again, years after the fact.
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herorev wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 03:25
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I only play console and handheld games, but I think the lack of commercial games on Linux is a huge reason for the continued dominance of Windows.
Many people who would otherwise be early adopters of Linux, the people who will lead others to switch to Linux, play PC games. If we could make switching easier for these people, they will encourage their less tech savvy friends to also switch to Linux, and then provide them technical support. Without these people, many ordinary users will not have technical support for Linux, and thus would be better off with Windows.
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ethana2 wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 08:22
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Google is your best shot. Get their apps into partner repos, stat. They'd be more than happy to do that.
Also, we can make a gaming-mode that hibernates the DE and blocks un-urgent annoyances while gaming. We can make Ubuntu the best gaming OS, technically, on earth. Just things like automatically shutting off compiz and stuff.
Games will follow.
Oh yeah --qjoypad integration. We have to be able to work just like a console in that way. Especially on the ps3.
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Kent88 wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 09:37
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Games need to be a higher priority.
Heck, I suggested that Canonical throw some support behind some new projects, and I think that is one way to get it done. Start the gaming project/company off supporting linux, and keep them interested.
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kernel_script wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 16:41
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Yes, it would be really cool :^D
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Chainz wrote on the 4 Mar 08 at 10:49
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Hmmm... Why not to start participating with: Apricot - first open game, http://apricot.blender.org
They actually work on Ubuntu! :)
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scubanator87 wrote on the 9 Mar 08 at 14:00
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It would be nice to see a partnership with someone such as blizzard or something to get more motivation for game dev on linux in general. All it would take is one big company and if there is a decent amount of success the other will follow to keep from being left behind.
However, this should not be made a priority but something to be done if possible.
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jannone wrote on the 12 Mar 08 at 17:57
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My idea is marked duplicate:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3244/
The difference is that I'm suggesting a Gaming Portal that would enable the partnership between Canonical and gaming companies in a more practical way. So, I think it's worth taking a look, evaluating, and perhaps bringing the good parts up here.
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loki wrote on the 28 Mar 08 at 12:21
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I think the best way for linux to succeed as a gaming platform at this moment, is to get Ubuntu in the living room as a Media center.
Game manufactures will than follow to make games for it. At first it will be like the Nintendo games... but it's a start!
Most windows users don't use linux because they don't know the platform. Media centers and harddisk recorder in the living rooms are a new concept and makes linux a great candidate for it.
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eric489 wrote on the 2 Apr 08 at 19:25
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It's sad to see Ubuntu as a powerful Os but still lacking the few things that could make it take over windows once and for all...
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wit3k wrote on the 6 Apr 08 at 12:26
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It can be done by openGL patching. Full screen function should not only put view onto full screen but also check if there`s no compiz running (maybe we could disable whole gnome for gaming purposes!)
I saw this idea in Sabayon Linux. There`s oportunity to run sauerbratten (or something like that) from boot menu. Only thing needed to play a game are loaded - no precious MB`s of ram loosing
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jeanpaul145 wrote on the 6 Apr 08 at 20:24
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If this CAN happen, I'm all for it, it will save me a lot of hard disk space wasted right now on a dualboot configuration - however, what does Canonical have to offer the big-time game studios to make them stop using DirectX and move to the more platform-independent OpenGL? 'Cause M$ will release the source of DirectX 9/10 when pigs fly in a frozen-over Hell.
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ubundude wrote on the 8 Apr 08 at 16:41
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Totally agree, checkers and tetris are cool and all but are no match for games such as COD4 and Crysis.
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gdp77 wrote on the 9 Apr 08 at 10:54
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1) Game mode :
Game developers need a STANDARD and easy to program way to talk to graphics cards (like dirextX). So first of all we need a GAME MODE which will be a STANDARD among ALL MAJOR distributions. In that case no game developer will have the excuse that it is difficult to make a game work in all distributions due to differences.
2) Updated OpenGL
OpenGL is outdated and inferior in comparison to DX10.
3) Money
Someone must pay serious cache to game developers like Blizzard in order to make native games for Linux.
P.S. I think that the ability to play HIGH-END games is the #1 reason for Windows total dominance among the general population.
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ll wrote on the 23 Apr 08 at 19:18
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I think native games will be to expensive to develop and port for the currently small number of Linux users. Maybe the Ubuntu developers could convince game developers to make games that are 100% WINE compatible. They could be marketed as such and could even include instructions on how to install WINE.
I know some people will not be happy but perhaps after enough people switch to Linux developers might develop or port native Linux games.
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3dOptics wrote on the 29 Apr 08 at 17:27
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I think a gaming mode would be a great idea. In that mode only the bare essential of the OS would be running in the background. The mode would automatically turn off Compiz, Gnome/KDE, anything consume large amounts of resources.
Most people will not use Vista for gaming since it hogs resources and people are able to get higher fps in XP.
It would be awesome if Ubuntu had a gaming mode and could get better fps than windows. What gamer would not want a OS that delivered higher fps? After all some gamers spend hundreds of dollars just for a 2-3fps increase.
If Ubuntu offered higher fps than windows, gamers would switch and then major game development companies would be sure to follow.
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Craig73 wrote on the 26 Jun 08 at 00:04
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I think there are some great ideas here - like a game mode for faster game play...
That being said - when I hear people asking for games on Linux or Linux on VendorPCs it all sounds great... until people start whining that they have to pay for it - in fact on the Dell idea site people are whining about Dell's pre-install because it isn't cheap enough... and there is even the question if any body is buying it with Linux
So... rather than partner with them - make some great game facilities on Linux and then buy the games that are actually being sold on Linux today --- that is how you create a market
So I have to vote this down
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