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    <title><![CDATA[Focus an attention of user on shutdown confirmation dialog]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/18968/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[In Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 beta is added shutdown/restart/logout confirmation dialog. This dialog is important at the moment. Focus an attention of user on it.<br />
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<b>[768 votes] Solution #1: Fade down ambient to focus on dialog</b>
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<b>[258 votes] Solution #2: Fade out gradually as time runs out</b>
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<b>[-64 votes] Solution #3: Let Compiz do this</b>
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<b>[-11 votes] Solution #4: Play default or custom logout music</b>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from andruk</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Schweet.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Pizdec</title>
  <description><![CDATA[-1, don't like this idea.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Haku</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The same thing as Solution #1 is applied when administrative password is required.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from codexx</title>
  <description><![CDATA[ok idea but not desirable...don't like the fade idea much either...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from danielsouza</title>
  <description><![CDATA[openSUSE 11.0 already has the Solution #2 implemented, instead of writing new code, we can copy their implementation.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from glococo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[-1, dont like this idea. <br /><br />If you have 60seconds to shutdown, why you need a black screen in background ?<br />You have 60 seconds to close whatever you have. Why change to black ?<br /><br />Or maybe, change to black background but do not give 60seconds, shutdown inmediatly.<br /><br />B.rgs!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Thelasko</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Hmm, where have I seen this before?  Oh yeah, Windows!  I really don't care one way or the other on this one.  I honestly don't understand why we need the 60 second countdown in the first place.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from andrewm</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@Thelasko<br /><br />I think the idea is that some users just click the "shutdown" or "logout" icon then walk away and don't bother to confirm the action. Giving a countdown gives the user a chance to correct a mistake while still conducting their intended action if they're gone.<br /><br />Users are not ment to conduct work or save during the countdown period, they're ment to either click the action or cancel button, which the darkening effect will help accomplish.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from rolando</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I Likes the firts Idea, but whitout the Metacity window frame.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from drinkypoo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Compiz ALREADY DOES THIS. Please USE GOOGLE before creating your ideas! On Intrepid, which is where I am doing it already, install simple-ccsm, then run it and find the "Login/Logout" plugin (easy since the prefs dialog has a filter.) My "Login Window match" setting is "(class=X-session-manager & title=Shut Down the Computer )" which works for GNOME. Unfortunately GNOME will not allow you to present a single dialog with shutdown AND logout options, what retards. If you specify the options together they say they conflict. I'm not sure how they conflict, but that's the story.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from deriamis</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Yes, Compiz does this, but how do we deal with users who forget to confirm the action? Or what about the people who are fortunate enough to be using Edubuntu in a library and the library needs to tell people they are closing? There is a reason to investigate how we help people save their work before the computer shuts down - or to prevent their session from being hijacked.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from tiede</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Also, let's not forget that not all users have Compiz.<br />Compiz is not always enabled and therefore, such an important reminder should not be relegated to it as of now.<br />In the near future, when 90% of computers will be able to run it, I will agree with drinkypoo... But as of now, I say we need to fade out in some other manner than with compiz.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from olskar</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The point of this would be to get the user focus on the dialog? And why would the user want that? I'm sorry but I think the whole dialog is extremely pointless...<br /><br /><br /><br />Why not adding that to the emptytrashoption too? Or countdowntimers every time someone deletes a file? I mean, then we have 60 seconds to stop it if we realize we made a mistake deleting the file! Lovely!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from enosis</title>
  <description><![CDATA["I'm sorry but I think the whole dialog is extremely pointless... " ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from amafernandes</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Sorry, but didn't Hardy had that function, not with the 60s timer, e upgraded yesterday to Intrepid (i now, i was late, but e had a bad experience when i upgraded to hardy, so now i wait a couple of months), and i like it all, with the exception of the logout/shutdown sistem.<br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from euxneks</title>
  <description><![CDATA[For Solution #1 I think adding a blur would help out quite a bit too :)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from arje</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I personally absolutely disagree with stuff like this. It really will not give any usability, use system ressources for nothing and the fade effect will most likely stutter, especially on big screens. I'm a fan of shadows under windows myself but anything animated for no reason is pointless and a step away from a good compromise of aesthetically pleasing design and usability.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from AndrewLuecke</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Actually, this is where you are wrong arje. I know, I spent hours sitting at Apple usability sessions and such. <br /><br />This will draw focus directly to the shutdown prompt and seems to be a good way. It becomes immediately obvious what to do, which is good (its about constraining the user so that it becomes clear what to do immediately. <br /><br />Furthermore, have things gotten so rediculous in Linux land that people are concerned about resources used during shutdown. <br /><br />All I have to say is WTF. It seems what the Linux audience wants is for Linux usability and design to appear to be something designed a parallel reality where classic design mistakes are the norm. <br /><br />If Ubuntu don't hold a session on gui design and usability to enlighten people as to what makes a good interface and why, I think things will get further out of whack.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from drinkypoo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I don't think it's a big deal for antique computers that can't run compiz (even netbooks often have an intel GPU with T&L) to not be able to do this. Compiz does it already and it's enabled by default, just enable the effect by default.<br /><br />If you want to talk about problems with Ubuntu logout, talk about the pathetic fact that gnome-session-save (or was it -save-session?) won't allow you to have a single dialog with log out and shut down options. It actually has an error message which says they are contradictory. I hate it when logic and English collide.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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