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    <title><![CDATA[Integrate restricted audio drivers]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/186/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[Improve the compatibility with the sounds cards, for example Realtek has drivers for linux you can integrate them like in ubuntu with the graphic drivers (restricted drivers of nvidia and ati).<br /><br />http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2<br />
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<b>[1374 votes] Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #186</b>
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  <title>Comment from bigdufstuff</title>
  <description><![CDATA[What advantage do these have over Freely available ones that we should give up our freedoms for?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from l0rdraiden</title>
  <description><![CDATA[You can auto install these drivers instead of compile alsa and make more things... moreover alsa not always works well]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from l0rdraiden</title>
  <description><![CDATA[You can auto install these drivers instead of compile alsa and make more things... moreover alsa not always works well]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Estesark</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Inclusion in a repository, fine, but integration, no.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from pt123</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I can't believe you are asking what advantage they will have over the "free" ones?<br /><br />Well the free ones can't detect the 5.1 configuration available on my sound card. <br /><br />Just like the Nvidia propriety drivers are far superior than their counter parts. <br /><br />The restricted drivers applets needs to more" divisible". Currently if I am using the drivers from the nvidia site than the from restricted drivers tool, I lose my madwifi wireless connection because it is lumped with it.  ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Martin Lindhe</title>
  <description><![CDATA[restricted drivers for soundblaster x-fi cards would be nice to have packaged aswell, until some free alternative pops up]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ryanhaigh</title>
  <description><![CDATA[If these drivers are useful having them packaged and available in the ubuntu repos would be great especially if they take care of some of the hda_intel complexities.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from johan</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I don't really care if they're availably, as long as they aren't installed by default. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Eldmannen</title>
  <description><![CDATA[My Realtek audio worked out-of-the-box on Ubuntu.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from tremby</title>
  <description><![CDATA[the long URL in this post is screwing up the layout by widening the table. at least in Firefox 2.0.0.12. please, OP, change that to an HTML link if possible, or otherwise shorten it or break it up.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ShadowVlican</title>
  <description><![CDATA[yes, you broke the this page with your lengthy URL]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from zsolt320i</title>
  <description><![CDATA[hi All,<br /><br />the problem mentioned above is really a big problem!<br />I have an integrated sound card Realtec :Realtek ALC850<br />(card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia CK804]) and simply i can not set to work perfectly.<br />I have sound, but i have some troubles with it what i will enumerate below.<br />The sound card is connected with an optical cable to my 7.1 amplifier.<br />I have 3 problem:<br />- does not work two applications in parallel which want to use the sound card, for example skype and xmms)<br />- i can not set the SPDIF pass trough, i can not see the films with Dolby, Dts<br />- i can not change the sound volume from the pc. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Eldmannen</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Hell no, no proprietary device drivers!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from vaska</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please add complete support of sound card M-Audio Revolution 5.1 Really it is very necessary]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from The_Ringmaster</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This should include support for bose home theater speakers as well (they come on lenovo laptops)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Angelos72</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Having drivers that work well is essential to increasing Ubuntu's popularity. Restricted or open source drivers the hardware has to work properly or else an OS cannot become popular.<br /><br />I am sure that users who spent hours to make their sound cards work (with or without success) will agree more readily than others who were lucky enough to have their hardware work out of the box.<br /><br />However the restricted drivers should be checked by the Linux people before being included in a repository. <br /><br />If you try for example to auto install Realtek's Linux drivers for the ALC660, the sound card will not be recognized anymore.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from fballem</title>
  <description><![CDATA[There are a couple of issues - both philosophical:<br /><br />1. If I understand correctly, and I'm relatively new to Linux so I could be wrong, two of the underpinnings that have made Linux successful to this point are that it is free and that it is open source.<br /><br />2. Linux is becoming more mainstream. For example, I've been a windows user since Windows 3.1, and converted to ubuntu in May of this year.<br /><br />The learning curve has been steep and still ongoing. What has made the conversion work relatively well is that Linux is free and that it generally works. I am a sophisticated Windows user, and I do remember DOS, so the command line is not as intimidating to me as it would be to those who are younger than I am.<br /><br />To be honest, I don't care if my NVidia graphics driver is open source or not - I do care that it works. NVidia, I'm assuming, has been working with someone to make sure that their proprietary drivers work with Linux - it's in their best interest. For example, I just recently built a computer with lots of bits and pieces. One of the bits that I bought was an NVidia graphics card. I specifically did not buy ATI because of their poor support for Linux.<br /><br />I suspect that the majority of recent Linux users are like me - they are coming from a windows world for a variety of reasons. In order for them to stay and contribute (financially or otherwise), their systems have to work, and work better than windows. If a company wants to keep proprietary trade secrets, they should be encouraged to do so. The benefit to us, as Linux users, is that stuff will work.<br /><br />The proprietary drivers should be in a repository so that those who wish to use only open source may do so. It should be easy for new users to know that there are proprietary alternatives available.<br /><br />In short (too late!), the current method, at least for the NVidia drivers, works very well. The open source was installed by default, but the option to use a proprietary driver was presented, it was clear, and it was easy to use.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Peter Frank</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Absolutely necessary, include it by default. For nearly 1 year of Linux experience I always ran into problems when I wanted two application to produce sound in parallel, UNTIL I installed Realtek proprietary driver TODAY! <br /><br />It would've been so much better if Ubuntu's Restricted Driver Manager reminded me of this, so that I wouldn't have laughed when I realized the "A" in "Alsa" stood for "Advanced"!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from jeanpaul145</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The realtek drivers are already integrated into ALSA AFAIK. So this is a bit of a non-idea.<br /><br />Besides (it has been said in an earlier comment, I think), what good would giving up your freedom do? Look at the nvidia blob (and older versions of the AMD/ATI blob). Lot of good it's done us...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from dino</title>
  <description><![CDATA[have all people who voted this up first tried to ask realtek to create proper alsa drivers?<br /><br />Ubuntu, alsa, etc are open source projects - so everyone can help. Writing a short email to just ask them is not costing that much time but shows them that there is a demand for good linux drivers.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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