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What advantage do these have over Freely available ones that we should give up our freedoms for?
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You can auto install these drivers instead of compile alsa and make more things... moreover alsa not always works well
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You can auto install these drivers instead of compile alsa and make more things... moreover alsa not always works well
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Estesark
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 01:04
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Inclusion in a repository, fine, but integration, no.
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pt123
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 03:37
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I can't believe you are asking what advantage they will have over the "free" ones?
Well the free ones can't detect the 5.1 configuration available on my sound card.
Just like the Nvidia propriety drivers are far superior than their counter parts.
The restricted drivers applets needs to more" divisible". Currently if I am using the drivers from the nvidia site than the from restricted drivers tool, I lose my madwifi wireless connection because it is lumped with it.
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restricted drivers for soundblaster x-fi cards would be nice to have packaged aswell, until some free alternative pops up
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If these drivers are useful having them packaged and available in the ubuntu repos would be great especially if they take care of some of the hda_intel complexities.
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johan
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 12:25
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I don't really care if they're availably, as long as they aren't installed by default.
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My Realtek audio worked out-of-the-box on Ubuntu.
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tremby
wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 00:28
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the long URL in this post is screwing up the layout by widening the table. at least in Firefox 2.0.0.12. please, OP, change that to an HTML link if possible, or otherwise shorten it or break it up.
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yes, you broke the this page with your lengthy URL
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hi All,
the problem mentioned above is really a big problem!
I have an integrated sound card Realtec :Realtek ALC850
(card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804], device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia CK804]) and simply i can not set to work perfectly.
I have sound, but i have some troubles with it what i will enumerate below.
The sound card is connected with an optical cable to my 7.1 amplifier.
I have 3 problem:
- does not work two applications in parallel which want to use the sound card, for example skype and xmms)
- i can not set the SPDIF pass trough, i can not see the films with Dolby, Dts
- i can not change the sound volume from the pc.
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Hell no, no proprietary device drivers!
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vaska
wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 11:52
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Please add complete support of sound card M-Audio Revolution 5.1 Really it is very necessary
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This should include support for bose home theater speakers as well (they come on lenovo laptops)
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Having drivers that work well is essential to increasing Ubuntu's popularity. Restricted or open source drivers the hardware has to work properly or else an OS cannot become popular.
I am sure that users who spent hours to make their sound cards work (with or without success) will agree more readily than others who were lucky enough to have their hardware work out of the box.
However the restricted drivers should be checked by the Linux people before being included in a repository.
If you try for example to auto install Realtek's Linux drivers for the ALC660, the sound card will not be recognized anymore.
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fballem
wrote on the 21 Aug 08 at 11:36
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There are a couple of issues - both philosophical:
1. If I understand correctly, and I'm relatively new to Linux so I could be wrong, two of the underpinnings that have made Linux successful to this point are that it is free and that it is open source.
2. Linux is becoming more mainstream. For example, I've been a windows user since Windows 3.1, and converted to ubuntu in May of this year.
The learning curve has been steep and still ongoing. What has made the conversion work relatively well is that Linux is free and that it generally works. I am a sophisticated Windows user, and I do remember DOS, so the command line is not as intimidating to me as it would be to those who are younger than I am.
To be honest, I don't care if my NVidia graphics driver is open source or not - I do care that it works. NVidia, I'm assuming, has been working with someone to make sure that their proprietary drivers work with Linux - it's in their best interest. For example, I just recently built a computer with lots of bits and pieces. One of the bits that I bought was an NVidia graphics card. I specifically did not buy ATI because of their poor support for Linux.
I suspect that the majority of recent Linux users are like me - they are coming from a windows world for a variety of reasons. In order for them to stay and contribute (financially or otherwise), their systems have to work, and work better than windows. If a company wants to keep proprietary trade secrets, they should be encouraged to do so. The benefit to us, as Linux users, is that stuff will work.
The proprietary drivers should be in a repository so that those who wish to use only open source may do so. It should be easy for new users to know that there are proprietary alternatives available.
In short (too late!), the current method, at least for the NVidia drivers, works very well. The open source was installed by default, but the option to use a proprietary driver was presented, it was clear, and it was easy to use.
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Absolutely necessary, include it by default. For nearly 1 year of Linux experience I always ran into problems when I wanted two application to produce sound in parallel, UNTIL I installed Realtek proprietary driver TODAY!
It would've been so much better if Ubuntu's Restricted Driver Manager reminded me of this, so that I wouldn't have laughed when I realized the "A" in "Alsa" stood for "Advanced"!
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The realtek drivers are already integrated into ALSA AFAIK. So this is a bit of a non-idea.
Besides (it has been said in an earlier comment, I think), what good would giving up your freedom do? Look at the nvidia blob (and older versions of the AMD/ATI blob). Lot of good it's done us...
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dino
wrote on the 8 Oct 08 at 13:25
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have all people who voted this up first tried to ask realtek to create proper alsa drivers?
Ubuntu, alsa, etc are open source projects - so everyone can help. Writing a short email to just ask them is not costing that much time but shows them that there is a demand for good linux drivers.
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