Solution #2:
Round the edges
Why isn't there a simple option to "round the edges" of the panel?
There shouldn't be that hard adding a small option into the properties where it could include something like:
Round edges
Radius: 20
Why isn't there a simple option to "round the edges" of the panel?
There shouldn't be that hard adding a small option into the properties where it could include something like:
Round edges
Radius: 20
Solution #3:
Adding a small gloss to the panel
Adding a small gloss feature to the panel?
An effect like this would be too resource heavy, and could really add some 'bling' I guess. Just something as simple as
this ; a really classy ivory white panel.
Again, this would be something you could enable and disable from the properties window.
Edit: I noticed something really cool by accident. I looked at my lower panel, saw
and thought "wow, gnome has that effect?" (I'm talking about the real subtle glow on the top), but then I saw that it was just the
watermark of my wallpaper (the screenshot of my desktop also shows the problem in solution one). I don't see why this couldn't be added without making GNOME bloated.
Adding a small gloss feature to the panel?
An effect like this would be too resource heavy, and could really add some 'bling' I guess. Just something as simple as <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrina+Panel+Background?content=56905">this</a>; a really classy ivory white panel.
Again, this would be something you could enable and disable from the properties window.
Edit: I noticed something really cool by accident. I looked at my lower panel, saw <img src="http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9479/screenshotzo8.png" border="0" alt="this"/> and thought "wow, gnome has that effect?" (I'm talking about the real subtle glow on the top), but then I saw that it was just the <a href="http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1tq7.png">watermark of my wallpaper</a> (the screenshot of my desktop also shows the problem in solution one). I don't see why this couldn't be added without making GNOME bloated.
Solution #4:
Adding a few simple themes to the panel
I think the panel looks (and especially) feels way too boxy. It's like in bad animations, you don't expect the animation to become flashy because it doesn't give you a reason to. When ever I think of the GNOME panel I think of a monotonous box, because quite frankly that's what it is.
You can change between themes in the appearance preferences, well why isn't there an option like that for the panel? Themes could include something like
this ,
this , akin to the
KDE kicker (something like a less childish version of
this ) or even
this (yaya Vista, I dislike the company Microsoft for a lot of reasons, and I think Vista looks way too gaudy in general but I do like the way the panel looks).
I think the panel looks (and especially) feels way too boxy. It's like in bad animations, you don't expect the animation to become flashy because it doesn't give you a reason to. When ever I think of the GNOME panel I think of a monotonous box, because quite frankly that's what it is.
You can change between themes in the appearance preferences, well why isn't there an option like that for the panel? Themes could include something like <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GummyJAR+Panel?content=93481">this</a>, <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Clear+Night+(Desktop+Panel+Settings)?content=91130">this</a>, akin to the <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/KDE_4.png">KDE kicker</a> (something like a less childish version of <a href="http://liquidat.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/panel1.png">this</a>) or even <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Taskbar_Vista.png">this</a> (yaya Vista, I dislike the company Microsoft for a lot of reasons, and I think Vista looks way too gaudy in general but I do like the way the panel looks).
Solution #5:
Allowing extra options for the menu button
Seriously, I don't know why changing something as simple as the picture of the menu button isn't possible (well, of course it's possible- but John Doe can't do neither do it easily nor from the panel's properties screen).
What I was thinking about would be to both allow a simple change of the picture in the menu button, and also to add ways to change it's look (again like
Vista , and both
these and
this one look particularly sleek).
Also something like
this , damn that looks good.
Seriously, I don't know why changing something as simple as the picture of the menu button isn't possible (well, of course it's possible- but John Doe can't do neither do it easily nor from the panel's properties screen).
What I was thinking about would be to both allow a simple change of the picture in the menu button, and also to add ways to change it's look (again like <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Taskbar_Vista.png">Vista</a>, and both <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/gpanel?content=53540">these</a> and <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ByProzac+Panel+Dark+1.0?content=87582">this one</a> look particularly sleek).
Also something like <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/rits+panel+bar?content=78321">this</a>, damn that looks good.
Solution #6:
Saving preferences
I'm sorry for posting so many solutions, only each time I'm thinking about a problem I keep thinking about new things which could be implemented.
I was just thinking about something straight forward like being able to save the settings for your panel (they could even be included in the
appearance preferences ?
I'm maybe thinking about if you want to change your computer's theme to "winter-snow white" then you would want your panel to be white, and glossy- maybe with round edges. And then when you want to try the snow panel again you could just select it from a list with pictures.
I'm sorry for posting so many solutions, only each time I'm thinking about a problem I keep thinking about new things which could be implemented.
I was just thinking about something straight forward like being able to save the settings for your panel (they could even be included in the <a href="http://tuxicity.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/screenshot-appearance-preferences.png">appearance preferences</a>?
I'm maybe thinking about if you want to change your computer's theme to "winter-snow white" then you would want your panel to be white, and glossy- maybe with round edges. And then when you want to try the snow panel again you could just select it from a list with pictures.
Solution #7:
Prepare moving to gnome-do
Written by
yzarc the 15 Feb 09 at 19:12.
Gnome-do is not ready yet. But I believe that is more interesting to spend time finishing it than putting lip stick in the gnome-panel.
News features of gnome-do need compositing but improving gnome-panel without compositing is useless too.
Gnome-do is not ready yet. But I believe that is more interesting to spend time finishing it than putting lip stick in the gnome-panel.
News features of gnome-do need compositing but improving gnome-panel without compositing is useless too.
Solution #8:
Move keyboard shortcuts listening to separate daemon
Right now keyboard shortcuts in GNOME are being processed by gnome-panel. Move this function to a separate daemon, so removing gnome-panel wouldn't disable the use of keyboard shortcuts.
Right now keyboard shortcuts in GNOME are being processed by gnome-panel. Move this function to a separate daemon, so removing gnome-panel wouldn't disable the use of keyboard shortcuts.
Solution #9:
Setting icon size
Written by
erikkll the 18 Feb 09 at 11:41.
Right now, if you resize the panel to let's say 48px, the icons grow too.
It would be useful to have an option to keep them the same (small) size, thus making it possible to group them together (make rows/columns) so that instead of having 4 icons next to each other, you can have a group of four icons in a 2x2 group.
Right now, if you resize the panel to let's say 48px, the icons grow too.
It would be useful to have an option to keep them the same (small) size, thus making it possible to group them together (make rows/columns) so that instead of having 4 icons next to each other, you can have a group of four icons in a 2x2 group.
Solution #10:
Scroll panel if there are a lot of items on it and resolution is decreased
If desktop is switched to resolution insufficient to hold all items in panel, when resolution is restored, items arrangement becomes a mess. Either right away or after another start of DE.
The solution would be: scroll panel on low resolutions, so items would be in their places when resolution is restored.
If desktop is switched to resolution insufficient to hold all items in panel, when resolution is restored, items arrangement becomes a mess. Either right away or after another start of DE.
The solution would be: scroll panel on low resolutions, so items would be in their places when resolution is restored.
Solution #11:
Add an option to the panel that lets it appear below windows
Some people may not want the panel to be above the windows, so if you only use it for notifications or whatever.
There should be given a possibility to keep it below other windows.
Some people may not want the panel to be above the windows, so if you only use it for notifications or whatever.
There should be given a possibility to keep it below other windows.
Solution #12:
Effects in bottom panel
Written by
justy the 21 Feb 09 at 10:03.
Make the background a nice gradient and enlarge the icon on the active program, like this:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6992/down.png
Solution #13:
Hide panel completely on autohide
Currently to hide the panel completely, I have to set it from gconf-editor. It should hide completely by default.
Currently to hide the panel completely, I have to set it from gconf-editor. It should hide completely by default.
Solution #14:
Provide an option to disable some tooltips
Sometimes the tooltips that show over the window list when Window Previews are enabled, or that "Click to view your appointments and tasks" tooltip is annoying.
We should have an option to disable some of these tooltips if we don't want them.
Sometimes the tooltips that show over the window list when Window Previews are enabled, or that "Click to view your appointments and tasks" tooltip is annoying.
We should have an option to disable some of these tooltips if we don't want them.
Solution #15:
Get rid of all the oldschool GNOME themes
Whenever I show my friends how cool Ubuntu is, the first thing they want to see is the themes. Then, they see such gems as "Aging Gorilla," "Crux," and "High Contrast."
Delete the ugly ones, make "High Contrast" available in an Accessibility package.
Whenever I show my friends how cool Ubuntu is, the first thing they want to see is the themes. Then, they see such gems as "Aging Gorilla," "Crux," and "High Contrast."
Delete the ugly ones, make "High Contrast" available in an Accessibility package.
Solution #16:
Add an animated colored background to the panel
Add an animated colored background to the panel.
Like smooth slow moving ribbon like color themes.
Add an animated colored background to the panel.
Like smooth slow moving ribbon like color themes.
Solution #17:
New panel background diferent from Windows and Mac Os X
Written by
twocool the 21 Feb 09 at 13:05.
I agree that Ubuntu should have a better default panel background, but it should be diferent from the windows and mac os toolbars
I agree that Ubuntu should have a better default panel background, but it should be diferent from the windows and mac os toolbars
Solution #18:
Black or shiny white toolbar
like mac or windows
like mac or windows
Solution #19:
Add support for multi-row applets
Written by
stetzen the 1 Mar 09 at 01:21.
At the moment, panel applets can be placed only in one row (with extremely rare exceptions, like window list applet), so that changing the size of the panel changes only the size of the applet (if doing anything at all). It will be great to add possibility of putting applets in more than one row.
Possible way of doing in is to create an applet called container, which has customizable size and can be divided in a few lines. Other applets can be added to these lines like they are added to the regular panel.
At the moment, panel applets can be placed only in one row (with extremely rare exceptions, like window list applet), so that changing the size of the panel changes only the size of the applet (if doing anything at all). It will be great to add possibility of putting applets in more than one row.
Possible way of doing in is to create an applet called container, which has customizable size and can be divided in a few lines. Other applets can be added to these lines like they are added to the regular panel.
Solution #20:
System Tray Applet loads in background.
Written by
coder543 the 3 Mar 09 at 01:01.
When you login the System Tray Applet takes a long time to load... until then, the whole panel is frozen (along with basically everything else.)
When you login the System Tray Applet takes a long time to load... until then, the whole panel is frozen (along with basically everything else.)
Solution #21:
Hide unused/inactive system tray icons in Gnome - notification area
When we have a lot of icons in the notification area they should automatically be hidden, like in windows and KDE, with an arrow as you can see in the screen shot:
http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/SystemTrayCalendar.jpg
Solution #22:
Better Applets Alignment
Written by
Shady3D the 28 Mar 09 at 08:42.
i want to be able to specify some applets to be in the middle of the panel and some in the left and some in the right but the problem is that some time when applet expands some empty spaces appear and it requires reorganizing.
i want to be able to specify some applets to be in the middle of the panel and some in the left and some in the right but the problem is that some time when applet expands some empty spaces appear and it requires reorganizing.
Solution #23:
Panels recognize order
Written by
Shady3D the 28 Mar 09 at 08:48.
i like to put panels one one the top and the other underneath it but what i restart panels or computer sometimes the lower panel becomes up so i have to switch them and i can't put the lower panel to the bottom as i have gnome-do dock.
i like to put panels one one the top and the other underneath it but what i restart panels or computer sometimes the lower panel becomes up so i have to switch them and i can't put the lower panel to the bottom as i have gnome-do dock.
Solution #24:
Dynamic Applet Spacing
The mock up shown below is from Hylke's Home Blog and shows how just by perfectly sorting the spacing of the applet icons to match a grid and using a more typographic date/time a more professional appearance can be achieved. The icons spacing dynamically increases as the taskbar is increased in size to match visually! The subtle colour pallet grid also helps separate the content for legibility!
http://www.bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/ugly-notification-area-in-gnome/
The mock up shown below is from Hylke's Home Blog and shows how just by perfectly sorting the spacing of the applet icons to match a grid and using a more typographic date/time a more professional appearance can be achieved. The icons spacing dynamically increases as the taskbar is increased in size to match visually! The subtle colour pallet grid also helps separate the content for legibility!
<img src="http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/046/d/a/Tray_example_by_hbons.png" />
http://www.bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/ugly-notification-area-in-gnome/
Solution #25:
Change font and font color easier
When you change background (color or image ) and you make a black panel you can't read the text anymore because it is black too.
If you want to change the font color... you have to create file in home or download special programs.
Why not add some customization option in the properties option like "font color"?
When you change background (color or image ) and you make a black panel you can't read the text anymore because it is black too.
If you want to change the font color... you have to create file in home or download special programs.
Why not add some customization option in the properties option like "font color"?
Solution #26:
Option to "Lock All" / "Unlock All" Applets on the Panel
Written by
phoenix the 21 May 09 at 10:21.
When I want to rearrange the applets on the panel, I find myself having to unlock each applet (including separators), move things around and then lock everything again.
With a default of 5-7 applets on the standard panel this is a bit cumbersome.
It would be convenient to right-click on any empty space on the panel and get an option to "Unlock All Applets" / "Lock All Applets".
When I want to rearrange the applets on the panel, I find myself having to unlock each applet (including separators), move things around and then lock everything again.
With a default of 5-7 applets on the standard panel this is a bit cumbersome.
It would be convenient to right-click on any empty space on the panel and get an option to "Unlock All Applets" / "Lock All Applets".
Solution #28:
more independent and innovative applet behavior.
Written by
yzarc the 10 Jun 09 at 15:05.
The only reason for I still need a panel fixed on my desktop is because i need put gnome applets there. There are some applet that I need to have always on my view (clock, system monitor, notification area, launchers, network, etc).
I'm suggest to a totally new behavior for gnome applet, they should be tread as gadgets that can be fix on a panel, on the desktop and ON THE BOARDS.
In the fist case they will work like they already work today. in the second case, they should work like gadgets. But in the last case they should work in an innovative way. Due my English limitation I will try to explain by mockups.
once on board is used to store an applet, one tine space of that board is reserved to show the miniaturization of that applet. As shown the mini-applet should be composed by only icons in such way that the user can get some information just look at it. the reserved space should be customizable.
here some idea of how the clock and system monitor could look like in the mini form.
on mouse hover or click the get the expanded form. the dimensions could be customized determining the amount of information display for some applet.
Here the system monitor, also the possibility to fix the applet in the expanded form could be gave.
The only reason for I still need a panel fixed on my desktop is because i need put gnome applets there. There are some applet that I need to have always on my view (clock, system monitor, notification area, launchers, network, etc).
I'm suggest to a totally new behavior for gnome applet, they should be tread as gadgets that can be fix on a panel, on the desktop and ON THE BOARDS.
In the fist case they will work like they already work today. in the second case, they should work like gadgets. But in the last case they should work in an innovative way. Due my English limitation I will try to explain by mockups.
once on board is used to store an applet, one tine space of that board is reserved to show the miniaturization of that applet. As shown the mini-applet should be composed by only icons in such way that the user can get some information just look at it. the reserved space should be customizable.
<img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/spideryzarc/ubuntu/moc1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">
here some idea of how the clock and system monitor could look like in the mini form.
<img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/spideryzarc/ubuntu/moc2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">
on mouse hover or click the get the expanded form. the dimensions could be customized determining the amount of information display for some applet.
<img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/spideryzarc/ubuntu/moc3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket">
Here the system monitor, also the possibility to fix the applet in the expanded form could be gave.
Solution #29:
Launchers aligned grids
Add an option that allows launchers only be placed in the grid.
Add an option that allows launchers only be placed in the grid.
Solution #30:
Add an option in preferences that allows for a dock like the one in Mac OS X
Add an option in preferences that allows switching classics launchers to the desktop there is a dock like the one in Mac OS X.
Add an option in preferences that allows switching classics launchers to the desktop there is a dock like the one in Mac OS X.
Solution #31:
1 Panel instead of 2
Two panels are not good. 2 panels takes up space and the upper panel is truoblesome. I have seen people having hard time with panels who just moved from Windows.
It should look something like this:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7643/mockup.png
Solution #32:
Make gnome-panel support Themes
Gnome-panel should include support for themes. The themes should define how any panels are there and what kind of menus it contains. It should also define how different parts of panels look.
Gnome-panel should include support for themes. The themes should define how any panels are there and what kind of menus it contains. It should also define how different parts of panels look.
Solution #33:
Custom option regarding trancparency, color, animation and gradient
The panel should really have some option to choose from.
What i have in mind is multiple gradient color with support for tranparency on each one of them.
It should also have support for animations, and how about support for screensavers?
Glass effects would be something too?
This way, anyone can make their choice in how they want to customize the panel, and it could even overcome the KDE panels
Here is a mockup of how it "could" look
http://www.4shared.com/file/206213772/5fde7b97/Ubuntu_Mockup.html
The panel should really have some option to choose from.
What i have in mind is multiple gradient color with support for tranparency on each one of them.
It should also have support for animations, and how about support for screensavers?
Glass effects would be something too?
This way, anyone can make their choice in how they want to customize the panel, and it could even overcome the KDE panels
Here is a mockup of how it "could" look
http://www.4shared.com/file/206213772/5fde7b97/Ubuntu_Mockup.html
Solution #34:
Always align the applet/launcher to one of the edges
Written by
etrusco the 4 Feb 10 at 09:50.
Let's stop with the applet positioning madness. Just do what the XFCE launcher do!
Or at least add the option to do so...
Let's stop with the applet positioning madness. Just do what the XFCE launcher do!
Or at least add the option to do so...
Solution #35:
Use a simple background
Written by
joehms22 the 6 Feb 10 at 16:03.
use a simple background image on the panel.
http://picasaweb.google.com/joehms22/Ubuntu#5435161341042485586
The pictures uses a simple gradient.
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RainCT
(Ubuntu developer)
wrote on the 14 Feb 09 at 21:48
I agree with the transparency issue (although that should perhaps be filed as bug). Not sure what you mean with the gloss, but perhaps that can be done with a composite manager.
andruk
(Idea reviewer)
wrote on the 15 Feb 09 at 01:21
I think a better metric for the corner rounding would be radius instead of angle.
@ RainCT
I wasn't sure whether this was a bug or not (since it's technically not an error or a fault.. but now that I think about it, it might just be a bug. It just thought since I was going to rant about the GNOME panel I might as well add this as well. I also added a picture of how I'd like to see the gloss implemented.
@ andruk
Yeah good point, I couldn't really remember how "smoothness" of edges is usually measured. However I could've used radians in the example for all you care, since the unit of measurement wasn't really the issue. ;) Most people just see that it's a scale of something ("0-100%", "0-90°", "0-π/2 rad" or "0-50 mm radius") as the unit usually has no meaning to the user. They just try sliding the bar from beginning to end, looking at the results to get the gist of how it works.
yzarc
wrote on the 15 Feb 09 at 19:04
I would pay more attention to the projects like gnome-do or awn. work to make possible to have one of it as default in future versions.
@ yzarc
Isn't it possible to work on both at the same time?
The changes I suggested wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement.
yzarc
wrote on the 16 Feb 09 at 15:58
baldurpet, your suggestions are great. I don`t know how difficult are to implement them, but it seems to be not trivial otherwise it would already be done.
I`m suggesting to focus on a modern solution (I picked gnome-do), maybe it isn't needed to focus on one project, maybe there are developers enough to all. But if there are no such resources available, then it's the case to concentrate in one project. I like to get the example of the ducks, can fly, run , swing, sing but they are not the best in anything.
why demoting scrolling?
items are getting messed up after low resolutions!
Sorry I hate the idea of scrolling. The fact some icons are hidden - on top of each other at low resolutions seems an ugly solutions), so ok may be scrolling is acceptable at low resolutions when there is absolutely no space left.
The icon should behave better when the resolutions is restored. See the idea http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16975/ for my suggestion how the panel icons/applets ordering and placement should work.
All +1.
Rabbid
wrote on the 21 Feb 09 at 23:43
This is making the panel better? Just some small graphical changes?
Anyways, gnome-panel will be gone when gnome-shell comes, they use something they have written from scratch, which will have a lot more serious improvements than this.
yzarc
wrote on the 22 Feb 09 at 16:27
@ Rabbid,
so click in "Propose your solution" and tell us!
I don't want to troll or anything, but I (as an KDE user) believe that KDE4 panel is the way to go. Not in a sense of it's look, but in sens of how it works.
So you have a widget containment to which you can add any given widget there is. So anyone can make panel the way he or she wants. If you look at some of KDE screenshots you'll see that not two panels are the same (ok maybe some prefer the original layout, but that's besides the point).
the other thing is that it uses SVG and ARGB function for background so you can easily achieve the look you want by you're self. I felt that no theme for plasma widgets is what I want so I made my theme, and that was the first time I used Inkscape.
So I feel that this is the way Gnome panel should go. I'm not saying make it like KDE. I'm saying make it gnome but the underlying features of KDE panel are the way to go as they give the most freedom and customization to user.
I'm a bit "afraid" to post this as solution as I know how "allergic" are some Gnome users to KDE, but if someone thinks this is a good idea you can either comment it and I'll post it or you can post it.
yzarc
wrote on the 23 Feb 09 at 07:59
Solution #15: Get rid of all the oldschool GNOME themes
till now 20+ 0-. I've never seen it before :)
jarobman
wrote on the 25 Feb 09 at 19:41
I've seen the same old school Gnome themes for about six or seven years now, it needs some major aesthetic love. The only theme I feel is worthy on Gnome is Dust. There should be way more than that. Themes need to integrate more into applications and the environment much like Dust does.
Integrating gnome-do and AWN would be a huge step forward... at least gnome-do. If they wanted to develop a panel more reminiscent of a Gnome desktop environment, the community should really focus on creating more usable (and attractive) widgets.
stetzen
wrote on the 1 Mar 09 at 00:32
Yes, the gnome-panel is definitely an area with a large potential for improvements. Well, I don't think that GNOME developers will focus on it in a short-time perspective, because of the Gnome-shell project being developing, but I hope to see gnome-panel as customizable as panel in KDE4
rdesfo
wrote on the 3 Mar 09 at 03:49
Gnome-DO uses to much memory I definitely think this is a great area of improvement but something smaller like grunner would be a better fit
Ubuntu should employ graphic designers to look at how to improve its default themes. As a designer myself I'm a gluten for grids and effective typography which is why I proposed solution #24 but this doesn't have to be as far as the idea goes as skinning windows users already enjoy desktops such as these from lifehacker's featured desktop series so why can't linux users!
http://lifehacker.com/tag/featured-desktop/
phoenix
wrote on the 19 May 09 at 08:15
I voted for Solution #3.
It is very very easy to do - just create a 24x24 pixel image with the right gradients and set it as the background to the panel.
A visual editor with drag & drop feature is required for any panel.
I can't click on each applet, set moveable flag, move the applet and then restore check to avoid s anti-aesthetics effetcs.
Like program bar on Windows XP, all elements can be edited or not.
Also icon size should be all equals or not. In this second case, each applet use a fixed dimension (default is the panels width).
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