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jpietari
wrote on the 20 Dec 08 at 03:48
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This seems like a power user action which could be done using a script.
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Habbit
wrote on the 20 Dec 08 at 12:06
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+1: you should not need to go console commando in order to be a semi-power user (that's one of the good points about our competition, Windows and Mac). Many programs, including CD/DVD burners, include an option to "shutdown when finished", so I don't understand why Nautilus/Dolphin would not have it.
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borsook
wrote on the 20 Dec 08 at 12:56
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@Habbit - "that's one of the good points about our competition, Windows and Mac" - name one file manager for any of these two systems that has that option...
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lavinog
wrote on the 20 Dec 08 at 19:48
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why should someone write a script to do a copy operation?
On the other hand I would be more frustrated if I accidently pressed the shutdown when finished box while copying a small file, only to have my system shutdown before I can uncheck it.
Maybe a two step process should be required.
A delayed shutdown would be just as good though.
Hibernate should work in this situation currently.
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Habbit
wrote on the 21 Dec 08 at 14:36
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@borsook: I'm not saying the _default_ file manager has those options, just that there are widely known _graphic_ file managers that do (X Commander, Y Advanced Explorer, etc.), and so they don't require dropping to a console for such a trivial thing. Thus, it would be 2xGood (TM) if we had it in our default file manager.
@lavinog: In order to prevent such mishaps from happening, the procedure could be like this:
1) You start one or more file operations. The "file operation status" progress dialog pops up. It has a "Advanced options" widget, either a button that pops a new dialog or one of those click-to-expand triangle thingies.
2) In the "advanced options" sections, you check the "shutdown when finished" button.
3) The selected options apply to all file operations performed by Nautilus, that is, if you start a new file copy with the old one still in progress, the computer will only shutdown after all, both new and old, have finished.
4) When the file copy has finished, a dialog pops up saying something along the lines of: "All file operations have completed, computer will shut down in 60 seconds..." and giving you options to do it now or cancel it.
Thus, if you accidentally engaged the auto-shutdown option, you'd have a countdown of one minute to cancel it. I agree that suspend, hibernate, log out and reboot should be options too, where they are supported.
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borsook
wrote on the 21 Dec 08 at 17:31
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@Habbit - "just that there are widely known _graphic_ file managers that do (X Commander, Y Advanced Explorer, etc.), and so they don't require dropping to a console for such a trivial thing. Thus, it would be 2xGood (TM) if we had it in our default file manager. "
Widely known? Never heard about them :D BTW thanks for the info, will check out those two for sure. Anyway I am not sure it would be "2xGood" IMO the default FM should be rather simple and straight-forward, too many options may be confusing (esp. something like this, that can annoying if set accidentally). If indeed there is no Linux FM that supports this - then indeed this should be added to at least one... But should it be in the default one? I'd say no - an advanced user that needs such a thing should be able to find a replacement to Nautilus rather easily.
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Habbit
wrote on the 22 Dec 08 at 01:49
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I don't think an "advanced options" click-to-expand widget in the file operations window adds any complexity to the FM from the user's POV. Furthermore, I think I outlined a good enough protocol ensuring that the option is not activated unwillingly or the user forgets about it. As I said, most optical media burning programs have the option to shutdown when finished, and nowadays burning a CD/DVD takes less than 15 minutes. Why not have this option for an hour-long data dump through the network?
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