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I am not always online when an app crashes, so the crash report is lost. Ditto with when I locate a bug that I want to report. An app to manage and explore the history of crashes and bug reports on my local machine would be fantastic.
I would also like the explorer to group the reports by history of crashed apps, nature of crash, type of bug, frequency of crash, etc.
Sync the un-submitted crashes and bug reports to respective vendors when next I am online. And check for responses to bugs, download and view later.
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zishmusic wrote on the 6 Mar 08 at 20:04
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I don't quite understand why my idea submission (idea #1990) was labelled as a duplicate to this, as mine suggests NetDump functionality. So I feel that I should post my idea as a comment. Perhaps the author of this idea might think about appending it to his.
Without further ado...
Kernel crash dumps are extremely useful for debugging purposes. Many enterprise server Linux distributions have this functionality (RedHat has NetDump, for example.), but Ubuntu appears to be lacking in this.
Ubuntu should implement an easy-to-configure network crash dump solution, in order to be taken more seriously in the enterprise server market. Perhaps it may be even possible to extend the functionality of KDump to do this.
There is a blueprint outlining dumps to disk, but this needs to be extended, as some drive controllers may not be supported by KDump.
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zeker wrote on the 8 Mar 08 at 18:10
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My idea (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2397/) was also marked as a duplicate but is somewhat different as well, I would add the following to this proposal.
After a crash have the option for a pop-up to ask questions like "what were you doing?" and "what did you expect would happen? / What actually happened" This would provide feedback to the bug fixers.
For the record, on my idea the concept of apport (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport) was pointed out but there is a bug that does not allow this to work in KDE (Kubuntu)
(Bug #118939)
So if you add the original idea to the 1st commenter's ideas and my own and make it work in all flavors of *buntu, then this would be a killer idea.
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shadowfirebird wrote on the 10 Mar 08 at 21:01
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I'm sensing a trend here. My idea was *also* marked as a duplicate, and does not seem to be anything like this one. (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4062/)
So different, in fact, that I don't really see how I can add my idea here, but here goes:
I think that if you find a bug (not necessarily a crash) then reporting it should be made easier, for those users who don't want to join in the fun at launchpad. This, after all, is supposed to be an OS for everyone, not just for Linux fans like us. Maybe it should simply be that we email a support address.
Granted, this would involve a considerable extra effort at the triage stage, but I think it would be worth it to include non-fans.
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apogee wrote on the 11 Mar 08 at 16:20
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So let me understand this. A Bug and Crash Manager will NOT:
- Manage crash dumps on a network ? (not even kernel crash dumps ?) (idea #1990)
- Automate Crash Reporting ? (idea #2397)
- Make reporting bugs easier ? (idea #4062)
Come on people. Grow up.
This site is not about logging max votes for zishmusic's ideas, nor for zeker's ideas, nor for shadowfirebird's ideas, nor for apogee's ideas. It's not about the individual. It's about the community.If we can not combine our collective thoughts (even if they do differ slightly in nature) to come up with an even better more holistic idea from the collected, then why are we contributing to this site?
I have read too many comments on too many idea pages where people bitch and complain because their idea has been marked a duplicate. Even one of mine has gone that route, but I am happy it has been marked as duplicate because the collective is stronger than the individual. My idea does not die, it survives and compliments auzy's idea and together the two ideas form a stronger unit.
If you don't like that your ideas are marked as duplicates, don't be contributing to this site - go and start your own ideas site.
my 2c.
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zeker wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 01:24
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Whoah, apogee. Calm down.
I only speak for myself here and not the other posters but I don't have a problem with my idea being marked as a duplicate and merged with this one. (Particularly as brainstorm now provides links to each of the duplicates).
All I was doing (as I assume the other posters were) is to make sure some of the slightly different but similar ideas that were in our posts get included in yours to make the whole thing better. I agree that your idea is the superset (as it were) but I didn't want the notion of some of my kubuntu/kde specific complaints lost in the shuffle.
I assume thats what the other posters meant as well. I know I voted up your idea and I hope others do as well. All I was saying is that your idea is good, I have an addition to it that I think makes it even better (from my perspective) and that if we pool our support then this has a better chance of getting implemented.
Again, I certainly wasn't upset that my idea was marked as a duplicate and I apologize if my comments made it appear that way. I like and support your idea.
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apogee wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 10:31
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Sorry, bad day.
The community voted for duplicate removal/merging etc. and since that has been implemented, most of the comments I have been reading is from people complaining that their ideas have been "lost" or "stolen" ... and then I came and read this page. Sorry if 1+1=3.
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to remain positive in the light of all the complaints in the comments (not just about duplicates, but ppl insulting each other just because some prefer KDE to Gnome, spam complaints, caps-lock complaints. All utter childish crap IMHO.)
I am sorry I allowed it to get to me the way it did - I am usually not affected by it. And I apologize everyone I may have offended.
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shadowfirebird wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 21:00
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I agree that your idea would make reporting bugs easier. But that is not the same as saying that my idea is a duplicate of yours. (Elephants are mammals, but not all mammals are elephants.)
There are a lot of different ways of making it easier to report bugs; yours is one, mine was a different one. Both have their merits, in fact, I like your idea. But it's not the same as mine.
And it I don't give a flying fart that 4062 was my idea, because again, you're right, it should not be about personalities or about gaming the system.
But I do care that no-one can vote for 4062 now, or even see it, because it's been marked as a duplicate of this idea. If your idea gets enough votes to be actioned, does that mean that 4062 will be actioned? No.
OTOH I'm not blaming you, or anyone. It's the Brainstorm app that's at fault for implementing an irreversable change.
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