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Idea #15515: smplayer interface for mplayer as the default video app

Written by grep65535 the 11 Nov 08 at 20:07. Related project: MPlayer Movie Player. Status: New
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I've gone through many video players as my "choice" application for that purpose. Initially it was Xine, then VLC, then back to Xine. I have always said that if mplayer would just have a nice robust front-end that wouldn't crash/freeze/jack up like all these other apps tend to do, I would use it.

Since the release of Hardy I've been using SMplayer and so far it's been flawless.

I can NOT say as much for Totem, ever. Ever since I used Fedora, Gentoo, and even SUSE as a main desktop, Totem has just failed. Whether it be codec issues, or crashing, freezing. When I try to fast forward on WMV or AVI or ASF files, it still will often freeze or lock up my system to where I have to go to tty1 and kill it.

In all, Totem in literally ALL of my experience on different systems whether they be systems for work, friends, acquaintances, family, myself; suffers from:
-> crashing and burning
-> freezing my system
-> just simply not working with some files
-> no obvious way to use subtitles
-> no obvious way to easily change the video deinterlace mode
-> an annoying side panel

SMplayer and VLC just put Totem to rest.

When I try to get my parents to use Linux over Windows, simply because all they do is check email and browse www, Totem was the bane of that effort. I would change the default app for files to something else, but EVERY time my mother had an issue playing some video file she got in email, Totem would be sitting there staring at me, unable to play. Even though I configured the codecs correctly, and other players would play it without a hitch. It just seems that *Some* files don't work, while others do. The WMV's that I find work, but the ones that she receives in emails don't for some reason. But in mplayer it works perfectly. In VLC perfectly.

mplayer has been considered the "best" media player by many popular sources. It's open source. And the only problem I've EVER had with it is the interface which is now just as good as VLC with "SMplayer". And it's in the Ubuntu repo, so why not?

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Written by grep65535 the 11 Nov 08 at 20:07.
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grep65535 wrote on the 11 Nov 08 at 20:20
I think I've given Totem a decent chance. Always coming back to it and trying it again to see if it's finally "fixed". But every time I just wanna kill it after barely a minute. And people I know coming from other OS's (not just windows) feel the same way. They claim that they "can't" play videos. Then I realize that it's not obvious to them that they can just right click and use a different player, or just change their default player. I'm tech-savvy so it's simple, but to others it's a turn-off with no solution.

Even when I set the default player, stupid Totem shows up a few days later laughing at me. Because they "just clicked on the file" and Totem popped up, totally uninvited. VLC would be an obvious choice for many windows power-users, but I think that mplayer would be more appreciated by many long-time *nix users, especially since it can do the same stuff VLC can. I also hear that the developer for SMplayer is enthusiastic about Ubuntu, and I'm sure he'd put more effort into this than the Totem people.

To me it just seems like the Totem project struggles to make a friendly UI. Or even a reliable app in the first place. I don't even see how it got to be the defacto standard for most distros besides maybe having one of the *first* UI's for a media player. I've observed that it seems to have had very little improvement since about 2004 when I first started really using Linux for multimedia. Whereas SMplayer and VLC are already there when it comes to a very user friendly and USEFUL UI.

I'm sure many international people would also appreciate the easily selectable subtitle track options that are out in the open (just right click). And the fact that I don't have to tell these apps where to find windows codecs. And I've NEVER had a problem opening a DVD on SMplayer. I can't say that about Xine or Totem. Especially Totem.

Dinth wrote on the 11 Nov 08 at 23:06
Side panel in Totem isn't anoying, it is just useless. Totem developers should look for inspiration at :

http://www.bestplayer.com.pl/zrzuty_ekranu (polish screenshots only :( "Napisy" tab mean subtitles - opensubtitles.org support, automagickaly synchronizing bad subtitles to movie, etc, "Suwaki" tab means some minor options like volume, brightness, video size and positon)

Squichie wrote on the 12 Nov 08 at 02:02
I generally like totem, but it needs a few more features. VLC is ugly, and more unstable for me.

Mplayer gives me problems as well.

Dinth wrote on the 13 Nov 08 at 00:08
Mplayer dont gives any probles, its all about its configuration ;)
I would like some good Mplayer based player for GNOME (Gnome-player? No jocking:) ). Something like SMPlayer, but writen in GTK.


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