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Auzy
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 12:57
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This is actually a packaging request, so should be filed in launchpad.
But I do agree. Its futile arguing that Linux is better to other folk from other OS's, when a large amount of programs in the repos are way behind (and are probably less secure in many cases too). No good having package management which doesn't have up to date packages. People coming from windows don't want to change to an OS where installing programs like eclipse, open-office or Azureus is actually a massive downgrade from the copies they had on windows (which were just as easy to install anyway). However, there isn't much we can do about that problem (LSB4/LSB5 and packagekit might fix it though eventually, hopefully).
Do a package request in launchpad ;)
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Through version 2.5.0.4, Azureus was distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL); beginning with the version 3 distribution, the licence presented upon installation changed. While it still states that the "Azureus Application" is available under the GPL, completing installation requires the user to agree to the terms of the "Vuze Platform", which include restrictions on use, reverse-engineering, and sublicensing.[6] As with many similar licenses, the Azureus licence includes a prohibition on use of the software by people "under the age of 18".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuze#License_change
If they gonna be non-free, they can go fuck themselves.
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cheesehead
(Brainstorm admin)
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 14:09
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Already implemented: Vuze 3.1.1 is available in intrepid/universe
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Xfactor
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 16:21
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In response of Eldmannen's comment:
I like free software. But if there isnt going to be Vuze because Ubuntu is fundamentally against restrictions, then they can go...........indeed.
I AM USING LINUX TO BE PRODUCTIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF SOME IDEALS.
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vektor
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 18:42
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Xfactor: K+
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Fixman
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 22:40
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As of Eldmannen, and has anyone used the new interface? It looks like some Kazaa-ish hybrid between spyware and shareware.
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Auzy
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 23:31
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Fixman, the new interface can be disabled.. I think the reason though its 18+ only, is that there is so much pr0n that shows up on the simplified interface
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vexorian
wrote on the 21 Oct 08 at 04:38
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Xfactor: Then install it manually, duh?
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vexorian
wrote on the 21 Oct 08 at 04:39
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And seriously, so much fuzz for a torrent thing? Can't people just use transmission? I do, it is fine.
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Xfactor
wrote on the 21 Oct 08 at 10:54
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In response of vexorian's first comment:
this is what I mean not a clever attitude.
How must a average computer user compile, install etc when there isn't a good automated installation option available. In which way will linux ever be popular with this attitude? Never is the answer.
Because of that attitude Linux is still not popular. And I think I get sympathy for windows users because of that attitude.
People don't want a complex OS where they have to do things with a terminal or some scary tweaks. They want a easy up to date os. That is a reality that some nurds that live with their moms have to understand.
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Auzy
wrote on the 21 Oct 08 at 11:17
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The problem is that Ubuntu developers make it difficult to install anything out of the repos for "security" reasons. So that means that everything in the repos needs to remain up to date, or there is no way people will use Ubuntu (because in windows installing up to date third party progs is EASY).
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