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The new background is just ugly, it looks like they even tried to be worse.
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Yea Background does not settle well in the stomach... Looks like Puke! The sounds are ok but not the best. I don't like the Hardy Sound.... I changed it to the older sound. (The long one) I Vote +1 Please change the background :(
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dino
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 09:29
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wow, that wallpaper is ugly! But I'm ok with the sounds. +- 0
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ubby
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 09:57
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I also agree with the background, but totally disagree with the sounds.
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the sounds are cheap and unprofessional sounding. and the wall paper isn't very good ether. it would be ok as a secondary wallpaper.
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the "new sounds" are just new gnome's default sounds. new = since 2.22.x, earlier in gnome were other sounds.
but don't mess gnome with ubuntu.
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i hope the old sound remains. because the knew one sounds like microsoft..
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Frants
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 12:58
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Remove that background. It looks so terribly unprofessional that one could start crying.
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Remco
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 14:36
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The sounds are somewhat of a regression, but not nearly as annoying as that ugly background.
It's the colors. The Hardy one makes brown look beautiful, but this one makes brown look like shit, literally. ;)
Give it more saturation and more variation, like before.
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I apologize for two things:
1) I forgot to make a link for the orange marigold wallpaper
2) It looks like a lot of folks don't agree on BOTH the wallpaper and sounds problem. I should have split them up. Please continue to make comments on both.
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The new wallpaper is ok, sorry but I don't really relate the word professional with shiny. I don't see much more professionalism in vista's wallpaper.
However, when you compare it with the heron in hardy, it is a huge step backwards.
Also, that fresh flower you are suggesting is a ridiculous alternative, so -1.
Now that I am hearing the sounds, big no, really the drums and clock stuff were so nice and part of ubuntu's identity, don't screw up like this...
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Dude, is shuttleworth on crack? How the hell is Ubuntu going to catch up with Apple if he keeps letting stuff like this pass as acceptable? This is without a doubt totally and completely unacceptable on any level. It's sad and amateurish.
It's been said a million times before, but you could get a theme a million times better by just grabbing the highest rated themes off gnome-look.
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_alex_
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 16:21
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I agree the wallpaper is horrible. It gives the distro a bleak and spirit damping look.
Even Gnome's wallpaper gives it a much more friendly, uplifting and welcoming look: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/
Ubuntu has enough dirt color in the theme as it is. Do we really need to insist to make everything look like dirt?! Can't we add some flavor and pick a colorful background?! Perhaps a nice micro photography shot, scenery, or nice sublime abstract wallpaper!
As for the audio. I partly agree. The current sounds are more intricate. Though the 70's electronic sound is somewhat appealing to me :)
P.S.: Dan Rabbit, for the love of everything that is Ubuntu, get on the design team. As this illustrates, we seriously need more people like you.
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I simply hate the wallpaper. I know I can change it, but if every default thing is expected to be changed, then why would anybody care about doing all the default stuff. Writing good code is not enough to make Ubuntu the best OS or even compete with OS X or Windows, it has to be much more beautiful and usable. I don't like (maybe nobody likes) to Google around for hours for anything and everything in Ubuntu (other distros too). Things crash so often and many of the things are not obvious or so complicated in Ubuntu. Shuttleworth is aiming to compete with OS X in usability in 2 years or so. I don't see any chances if things are done like this.
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biomega
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 16:31
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I don't like the old sounds, but I prefer the old wallpaper.
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The sounds are okay.
The background doesn't look as appealing s rival operating systems.
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The wallpaper is horrible, just plain horrible! Someone please tell me it's just a joke!
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yzarc
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 17:28
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The wallpaper is horrible, just plain horrible! Someone please tell me it's just a joke![2]
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The new wallpaper is horrible.
Not only that, I am beginning to think we are sticking to to the old brown and orange human theme that Canonical have promised to change for at least 2 releases now. I hope I am wrong and in a future beta/RC we will see a new theme but to I'm not holding my breath. Are they hoping we have all forgotten that they promised a new theme?
As for the sounds, the new ones are horribly cheap and amateurish sounding. The old ones were far better.
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marvo
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 18:33
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The wallpaper reminds me of a friendly and colorful vinyl record album cover buried under the dust and ashes of an earthquake which seems to have happened some weeks ago and left the town depopulated. A bit too dim for my taste. My first impression of the sound theme was "cheap" and ...well... "redmondish".
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I agree, the new wallpaper looks terrible, My first impression when I saw it was a mix of thinking "wow that looks like coffee stains" and "wow that looks terrible"
It needs to change.
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sedra
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 18:37
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what a horrible wallpaper!
dunno why they still make brown wallpapers.it's nonsense and ugly
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Thought i'd add...i do like the new login and logout sounds, those are nice
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bertm
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 19:10
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This wallpaper is really ugly.
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Sounds okey, wallpaper crap +1
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olskar
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 20:57
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The sounds is very 1990ish
+1
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v1nce
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 23:39
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wallpaper is ugly
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mrdoob
wrote on the 5 Oct 08 at 23:47
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wallpaper and sounds are alright... for 1995.
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this is good as it is now, but it could be more artistic not only circles, and about the login windows, i like it, simplicity is good
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argh0
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 00:36
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It seems like all that is not interesting at all the Ubuntu team.
Please, if a developper read this, just show you are paying a minimum attention to what the community says !
At least, just explain somewhere why you choose this wallpaper. Because now it seems like you don't care at all about appearance, and you never read any topic about this, and that all the work people do on gnome-art doesn't interest you at all.
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"I think everyone agrees, except for those that matter."
Ouch...
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I agree with many of the comments above. I was shocked at how awful looking the new default wallpaper looks. And the first thing I thought when I heard the startup sound was that my Windows machine was booting. I think the opening sound when Ubuntu launches is great. Sounds should be part of Ubuntu's brand identity. The startup sound should be distinctive and consistent across versions. The Hardy sound is unique and catchy enough that when you are booting up in a cafe' or somewhere in public, people will look up, pay attention and say.. "whats that?" Its not the normal Microsoft sounding startup sound that seems to be selected for Ibex.
The Earthenibex wallpaper that is referred to above and in an earlier post is outstanding. It looks stunning, and carries through a consistent look and feel from Hardy - a high quality, professional looking, artistically stiled drawing of the animal the release is named for.
I would go with the Earthenibex wallpaper and the same sounds that are in Hardy.
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I can't believe that someone is getting paid to make such a thing... There's no art, no beautiful, no nothing ... I think that it can improve kubuntu's and KDE 4 popularity, because they look a lot prettier and modern.
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_alex_
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 03:33
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"I think everyone agrees, except for those that matter."
Way to ignore the majority, but hey, at least you're honest. Seriously, I can't count the number of times a good idea has been locked because of reasons along these lines: "A [half-a**ed] solution already exists", or "Even though everyone thinks this is a good idea, it is actually a bad idea because [nonsensical and convoluted justification]", and "At this point in time it is unclear as to whether we can realize something like this..."
I like this response, however. It doesn't sugarcoat the real reason like those other responses.
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I think everyone agrees, except for those that matter.
real nice of you. develop some taste in wallpapers well your at it.
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Auzy
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 05:47
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@rainstride & alex, whose side are you on? His admitted that there is a general consensus that the wallpaper sucks. His just saying that whoever is in deciding the wallpaper needs better glasses. So he agrees with us.
His saying that he doesn't believe the majority likes it. And maybe thats because at the end of the day its a bunch of circles on a brown background (something some people might like, but the colors dont blend well, and its certainly nothing that says "I am an awesome computer".
Whilst working at the applecentre, I ensured that the backgrounds on the computers were always chosen by their vibrance and attention to detail. This helps the macs really stick out and demand to be tried.
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Yeah, keep voting this one up. Disgusting wallpaper - nice sounds.
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Auzy
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 07:48
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For people who believe the background is nice, I have actually found a few sample videos people should watch just to see how far behind we are on looks..
(Its sorted by the vibe given)
OSX Leopard start video
NAB 2005 Reel
NAB 2007 Reel
NAB2006
Us (We don't have any demo reels or anything to get people rev'ed.. but we do have a background...)
Spot the odd one out. All of these except one hint at something that is powerful, easy to use, and is popular. And all of these except one are extremely detailed every single frame, have been post processed, refined and revised. One of these links, kinda feels like "rand() color splotch. If color is vibrant, replace with dullness and boredom". Finally, all give a powerful vibe. well.. most..."
Whose actually in charge of selecting the wallpaper, because no offence, but its starting to make sense to simply fork Ubuntu to simply give it decent defaults.. I think if we continue going this overboard trying to maintain a color that doesn't work, we may need to respin and release an enhanced version for humans.
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krs
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 07:48
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The news sound theme come from Win95? :))
Intrepid new features are cool, but it's probably the ugliest version of Ubuntu...
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Auzy
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 08:09
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Actually, honestly.. Does any developers here have an idea of how much effort it would be to replace the default background, and theme on the CD and respin it?
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Hobbsee
(Ubuntu developer)
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 12:19
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Auzy, I'm fairly sure that would be *very* bad protocol to do - searching questions would likely get asked, and the upload would likely be reverted.
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hmmm... sounded more like an insult to me.
why wouldn't it be possible to change the wall paper for the full release? you guys have to integrate the beta updates anyway. it would be a little against the normal deadline rules. but most people won't use an OS if it doesn't look good. and compared to hardys wall, this one is kind of cheap looking. hardy's looked like it was made by a pro, this looks like something i could make in 2 min.
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aidave
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 13:56
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Haha that wallpaper is pretty bad, looks like a groovy 70's kitchen floor or something.
I think the Ubuntu designers are toying with us.
I'm betting they'll shock us with the REAL wallpaper come time for official release.
This is just a tease.
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_alex_
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 16:33
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@Auzy:
"@rainstride & alex, whose side are you on? His admitted that there is a general consensus that the wallpaper sucks."
I'm on the side of making Ubuntu the best it can be. The original comment as quoted implied that while you all agree (the majority), you all don't matter since it's up to the ones that do matter (the minority). The developer has since clarified what was meant, though now it begs the question as to what the point of this site is, if the people who make the calls never care to look here.
In any case, I didn't mean to sound harsh; just a bit of friendly sarcasm. I think Linux Hater's blog has gotten to me :)
I'm glad the issue is being addressed now though.
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"though now it begs the question as to what the point of this site is, if the people who make the calls never care to look here. "
Totally right.
And the earthenibex wallpaper rocks, really It has my vote.
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jensfr
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 18:02
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I'm simply... horrified... please for gods sake don't let these sounds get to the final version...
The wallpaper is IMHO not a disaster, just boring and not very original like e.g. the one for Hardy, which I almost consider a piece of art.
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The Intrepid Ibex sounds are awful! Please avoid all kind of ms-windows-like sounds! They made me sick!...
Can someone play or record some Kora? (as cc-nc-sa or gpl, of course...) - or even something more afro-zouk, or whatever - This would be really great! =)
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Auzy
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 23:29
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@Hobbsee, what if it was renamed? Obviously the grandmaster wouldn't approve, however, it would be nice to be able to hand out ubuntu DVD's that are better out of the box..
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Auzy
wrote on the 6 Oct 08 at 23:44
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@alex.. Ok.. didn't realise the comment was revised ;)
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danne
wrote on the 7 Oct 08 at 11:32
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Sound is OK, wallpaper is horrible. I thought it was some temporary placeholder thing.
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Holmen
wrote on the 7 Oct 08 at 14:28
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I actually enjoy the sound. Its possible it could be better, but still, Im ok with it. But I'm NOT ok with that wallpaper, it is, as said before; Horrible.
So, +1 for the Wallpaper but 0 for the sound.
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I really agree
I just can't understand who is standing behind of this kind of artwork. We've already accepted that you will never chance default theme from Human to other but is it some requirement that wallpaper should be ugly too?
There is so much wonderful themes, beautiful wallpapers and more readable fonts available but you just throw away them all... Here is more than one or two topic about new theme and better wallpapers etc. It should tell you something.
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I think that we all would like to hear an official oppinion from Mark and the developers... Why do you think that Ugly is cool ???
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sound is ok. background ... not so kool
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i just updated and the update for pulseaudio and alsa fixed the sounds!! its the sounds from hardy but still that better that those cheap sounding ones.
now im just gonna cross my fingers for a new wall.
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also, for those that like the new sounds, you can choose between them and hardy sounds in the sounds panel.
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®om
wrote on the 8 Oct 08 at 17:55
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I hope the wallpaper will be changed before the final version...
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arito
wrote on the 8 Oct 08 at 19:17
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I like the current Intrepid wallpaper very much. I especially like the colours, but also the general appearance. Perhaps it could be made even better, if some slight details or structure was added to individual spheres and/or the background. As it is now, the wallpaper is perhaps too simplistic to some.
I'm supprised that some people see the colours of the background as dirty. To me they seem stylish and refind (I'm not quite sure if those are the best adjectives here, because I'm not a native speaker of english).
I agree that the Earthenibex wallpaper, supported by many, is excellent. I too would reduce the contrast though and perhaps slightly unify the textures in different parts of the picture. Partly related to that, I can't help getting the impression that the ibex in the picture is sneezing and spattering around.
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The sounds are okay, the default wallpaper does not compare to the Earthenibex wallpaper... I wonder if they will change it for the final release?
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boteeka
wrote on the 9 Oct 08 at 12:54
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Wallpaper ugly, sounds are better (less annoying, shorter - I actually turned them on after several years without sounds) than before.
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Martin Pitt's Desktop team meeting/weekly report, 2008-10-09
"Ken announced that Mark wants us to revert ubuntu-sounds to the hardy version. The new sound theme allegedly sounds too similar to Windows Vista's. This raised some concerns about the rather intransparent way such kind of decisions are taken right now, but we generally understand that this is a SABDFL-ism."
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_alex_
wrote on the 9 Oct 08 at 15:15
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@brettalton:
Any official word on the status of the wallpaper?
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sedra
wrote on the 10 Oct 08 at 10:40
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mark is a dictator
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Remco
wrote on the 10 Oct 08 at 15:11
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@sedra
Well, that's no news. That's why we love him!
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@brettalton
Thank you for putting my fears to rest.
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+1 for Earthenibex wallpaper.
Use that and I may forgive you for using the Human theme yet again.
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well they have removed the new sounds completely. so thats 1 problem down. and it seems there going to choose a new wall so.... awesome.
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sf_007
wrote on the 11 Oct 08 at 23:35
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+100
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the new wall is in the update manager it looks great!!
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saivann
(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 15 Oct 08 at 03:47
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Intrepid wallpaper has been replaced by today update. This idea is now implemented!
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itix
wrote on the 15 Oct 08 at 14:42
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How about the sounds??
I liked the login and logout sounds!
The background just plain sucked, but the sounds were far better than those of hardy.
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Thanks !! and the promised new theme ??
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itix
wrote on the 16 Oct 08 at 10:20
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Never mind about the sounds. I don't care anymore. It doesn't matter. After hearing them a couple of times they weren't as good as I thought. The current ones aren't too good either though.
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