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I recently gave an Ubuntu Live CD to a Windows user who has never used Linux. And after a month when I happened to meet him again, I found that he wasn't using most of the COMPIZ FUSION plugins, the reason is that he wasn't even aware of it and was amazed when I showed him the simple rotating cube plugin.
This just shows that if you want new users trying out Ubuntu, you have to educate them on what exactly they can get from it. Maybe a video tour on the first installation will be more useful, or some other form of media.
I have another idea about having Daily/Weekly Pop-Ups to help Newbies as an option, read more here
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13831/
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cheesehead wrote on the 26 Sep 08 at 18:27
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Okay, how?
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kestal wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 04:42
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As default in 8.04, the compiz settings are not made visible from a clean install. Only after a simple sudo apt-get simple-ccsm do they actually appear in the menu.
Not sure whether or not this easy step is already done in 8.10, but what would the harm be in that?
Sure, most linux users who know just a fraction of the potential in Ubuntu read the forums or just 'know', but those who are migrating look for settings, get frustrated, and give up.
Personally, I'd find a more customizable and appealing first-time installation quite appealing in any distro. Selecting the packages I need or removing the packages that I would never use or want. etc.
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Endolith wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 05:59
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The cube is pointless. I hope you showed him something actually useful.
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andruk wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 07:30
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@Endolith: The cube may be pointless from a workflow perspective, but it is priceless from a marketing perspective, as it showcases how cool Linux and Ubuntu can be.
+1
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Plaristote wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 09:31
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And the cube is NOT pointless.
As pointless as are virtual desktops. The cube plugin just improve the experience with virtual desktops : it make things easier when you want to push a windows away... and, well, many other things.
+1 for the idea. It would be nice to have somes movies showing Ubuntu's feature.
For example a movie for the desktop environment (Gnome and Compiz), another for the media environment (Rhythmbox, Totem)...
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lhugsereg wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 10:27
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This shouldn't be default, however. Just for people wanting to explore the system (to find out more about Ubuntu, start becoming intrested, start contributing :) ).
+1
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cheesehead wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 12:44
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Don't add another layer of training and documentation unless it *really* fills the unmet demand.
Should start with a good psychological grounding - this approach appeals to these users, that approach appeals to those users. Identifying the unmet demand then leads to the right approaches.
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cheese2122 wrote on the 27 Sep 08 at 15:16
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Here is an option, because i know that some people are concerned about taking up too much room on the live cd, for welcome guides, etc. Upon first boot, write a simple program, that just points to a website, that has a feature list, New features of 8.10, and a video, and whatever else you want to add. All hosted on the website. I think its important to educate people. For example i installed ubuntu on my brothers computer, 3 months ago and he never knew that you could change the way it looks, i.e. themes.
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yours_truly_michael wrote on the 28 Sep 08 at 17:50
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The point of the idea was not whether rotating cubes are cool or not. The point was to get new users to not just try out the live CD but stick to using Ubuntu and migrating completely from other non-free OS.
How do we do this you ask? By showing them outright how COOL and EASY Linux really is.
How about having images/screenshots of really cool features flash on the screen during the Live CD boot time or install process? Images and Videos are the most catchy marketing tools.
Better Marketing => More Ubuntu users => More testing => Better Ubuntu => Awesome Experience for all of us.
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yours_truly_michael wrote on the 28 Sep 08 at 17:57
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How about having a daily tip on cool new features straight from the Ubuntu website, this will help even regular users updated on the latest features. And an option to cancel this if it annoys some people.
And yes, this feature already exists in many softwares to educate new users. (So don't bug me that it isn't a Brainstorm idea, because like it or not , we may need it in Ubuntu)
"Linux is like staying in a house of carpenters and plumbers, everyday you wake up , your house is different, some rooms moved, new walls coming up, floors missing"
-- Can't remember who quoted that
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Remco wrote on the 1 Oct 08 at 02:44
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I absolutely hate those tip pop-ups every time you start some program. The settings should just be easier to find. Currently, Compiz configuration is a big mess.
You have Ubuntu's configuration, which is just 3 useless options. It's basically "Nothing", "A" and "A + B". Nobody likes options that limited.
You have the Simple CCSM, which adds a fourth option "Custom", which lets you open a window with some real options, so you can actually choose what you want.
Then you have the real CCSM, which exposes way too many options. And it fucks up your settings from Ubuntu's configuration, so if you choose one of Ubuntu's options (Nothing, A or A+B), you'll end up destroying your custom CCSM configuration.
What we need is sane defaults for all plugins, and then a tool like Simple CCSM which exposes all plugins, but NOT all settings for all plugins! Just two or three settings per plugin. The settings that are changed most often.
And all configuration tools should work well together! They should NOT destroy each others configurations!
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