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Written by aysiu the 28 Feb 08 at 18:49.
Category: Installation.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
New users coming from Windows are often disoriented and don't really know the real advantages of Ubuntu or even how to use some of its basic functions (Add/Remove instead of setup.exe). An orientation would help them.
A couple of ideas for how to help them have come up, including an idea about having pop-ups for every new application that's open. The pop-up idea has a few downsides, of course, not the least of which being that pop-ups are annoying to many users, both new and experienced.
One relatively unobtrusive way to introduce new users to the basic functions of Ubuntu is to show a slideshow during the installation process. New users would probably watch the slideshow (they're waiting for the installation to finish--what else are they going to do?), while experienced users might have the option to turn off the slideshow... or they may just get up and leave, knowing that the installation won't take more than fifteen minutes.
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A slideshow during the installer is planned for 8.10
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Ferk wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 18:55
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Instead of integrating it with the installation, I think it would be better to have a link in the desktop to show the slideshow. So you can choose to click it or not.
You can do MANY things while waiting for the installation (like surfing the web) and if you are already an experienced user it can be intrusive.
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gavintlgold wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 02:23
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It could be a widget inside the installation progress bar window, which goes underneath any other new windows. This would keep advanced users from being annoyed.
I am thinking also of a checkbox or triangle expander widget for the slideshow too, with next buttons... that kind of thing. I really like this idea. I have seen it in many operating system installs (Windows just takes the time to brag about itself). Add a timer for each slide and you could make it nice and slick.
You could even have a link to a more in-depth tutorial online which could be accessed during install with firefox. Why not?
A reminder that you can use the web/other apps while the installation is taking place would be good too, since I'm sure a few people don't realize this and assume (coming from windows) that it's going to hog your system (which it will on slower computers I suppose, but less and less so as computing gets better).
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aysiu wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 05:03
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The slideshow would be part of Ubiquity, so if the installation window isn't intrusive, I don't see how the slideshow would be. If you launch a web browser, for example, during installation then it will steal focus from Ubiquity and cover it (and the proposed slideshow) completely.
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syl.ubuntu wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:31
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"I think it would be better to have a link in the desktop to show the slideshow" great idea!!!!
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diablo75 wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 16:07
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It could be a paperclip..... nevermind :P
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probono wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 16:38
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The installation "progress bar" should be without interaction and as minimalistic as possible, and it should CLEARLY tell the user "This will take X minutes. No more interaction is necessary. Go away, drink a coffee,..." --> no need to sit around and watch the computer install. This is how Mac OS X does it, btw.
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xlasttrainhomex wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 17:50
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Not agree. That would be against the simplicity of ubuntu actual installation.
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twright wrote on the 4 Mar 08 at 00:04
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when you have a liveCD the computer isn't useless whilst installing unlike windows and OS so interaction is OK
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dan.fernandez wrote on the 4 Mar 08 at 14:25
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@diablo75 I LOL'ed! :P :D :D :D
Ok, desktop icon is good. But, it could be even better if installer tells you about it when it start copying the files. Something like...
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dan.fernandez wrote on the 4 Mar 08 at 14:31
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Damn, my last comment got broken!
Someone is being a litte paranoid with the < in --8<-- instead of escaping it with htmlspecialchars()
Anyway, it was something like:
Ubuntu Linux is being installed on your computer. Depending of your hardware, this process can take some time to finish.
While the install finish, please feel yourself at home. Basic applications and web browsing are available. If you are new to Ubuntu, there's a tutorial on the desktop. Double click on "Tutorial Slideshow" to access it.
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ryanhaigh wrote on the 5 Mar 08 at 04:30
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I have thought about this many times when trying to aid people with post install setup. Suse had this when I first installed linux, it would be better in ubuntu as the install is shorter meaning the screens won't be displayed long enough to be boring and there is nothing stopping the user from using the desktop while its running, it is only a slideshow. The last slide should tell them that they can try the system while they wait for the install process to finish, and of course warn them that changes are not permanent.
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Thelasko wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 16:08
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I would have to say one of the biggest problems on the forums is that new users do not understand the concept of Synaptic/APT and Add/Remove programs. They install software from unknown sources and it wrecks their system. They get frustrated and then switch to another OS. That simple piece of information on installation could really grow the community.
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aantn wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 08:55
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A slideshow during the install would be great.
As Thelasko said, it would have to focus on several technical things in addition to blingy features.
If the slideshow is on the desktop no one is going to watch it. If it's inside the install window a lot of new users will.
If you keep the current progress bar on top, it wont bother advanced users.
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kahrytan wrote on the 23 Mar 08 at 07:27
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Ubuntu releases do more updated video tutorials. Now we can get Ubuntu Screencasts updated more frequently and include them with releases or make it part of the default firefox page.
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zeker wrote on the 24 Mar 08 at 04:41
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Couldn't you have it appear during the installation with two buttons "Watch During Installation" or "Place Shortcut on Desktop to Watch later" then everyone would be happy?
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jrusinek wrote on the 25 Mar 08 at 16:29
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The mockups simply look like Anaconda.
It could be better to port Anaconda to Qt and reuse it in Ubuntu...
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andersja wrote on the 14 May 08 at 11:54
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+1 innovative. Show users which basic applications to use (e.g. instant messenger, OO.org, firefox etc)
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Blueprint ubiquity-slideshow:
Ubuntuforums.org thread #411481
