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Idea #13050: Include FULL Etoile packages

Written by Warbo the 11 Sep 08 at 07:46. Category: System. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
Rationale
Etoile ( http://etoileos.com/ ) is a desktop and a set of libraries based on GNUstep (GNUStep is already packaged in Ubuntu). The idea is that different tasks are handled by different Services, with interfaces allowing them to interact and build complete applications. Think of Etoile being to GNUstep what OSX is to NEXTstep, a bit.

As a desktop it is nice to play with, and would be comfortable for people switching from Mac. The applications built for Etoile and GNUstep cover the basics, like IM, email, news, text editors, file managers, etc. but there are a lot of gaps which would benefit from more exposure and more developers.

The development being done is very cool, with recent activity such as a Just In Time compiler for Smalltalk (based on LLVM), allowing application development in Smalltalk with transparent access to all of Etoile's Objective C components (rather than being stuck in a Smalltalk-only world like Squeak).

At the moment there is an Ubuntu-based live CD of Etoile (here are some screenshots http://news.softpedia.com/news/Etoile-Live-CD-48502.shtml ). However this contains an old prerelease version of Etoile 0.2 from February 2007 (as far as I can tell). It includes a complete Etoile desktop on top of GNUstep on top of Ubuntu.

Ubuntu currently has a source package for etoile, but it only builds into Camaelon (a theming tool) DictionaryReader and WildMenus (which is a dummy package).

Getting an up-to-date version of the whole Etoile system means checking it all out of subversion and compiling. The etoile developers are not making packages for any systems at the moment, but they say they would be happy to help packagers with any problems they encounter.

The issue being raised in this rationale is that the innovative Etoile system and desktop, while packaged, are not being made available to users other than two applications mentioned above.

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Solution #1: Improve the current packages
Written by Warbo the 11 Sep 08 at 07:46.
Make the packages more useful, so that they include the services and applications which make up the desktop. If it's obtainable through APT, and can be played about with easily, then more developers will be exposed to it and may want to help out.

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neon wrote on the 12 Sep 08 at 01:15
File a needs-packaging bug on Launchpad please. (:

Warbo wrote on the 12 Sep 08 at 01:43
Done

Warbo wrote on the 27 Oct 08 at 21:01
I think my over-involved descriptions cause a lot of negative votes :P

olskeevi wrote on the 14 Nov 08 at 04:27
There's a live cd here: https://gna.org/projects/etoile

Warbo wrote on the 14 Nov 08 at 20:26
That CD's of a 0.2 prerelease :( (current is almost 0.4) I tried it when it came out and it's still interesting, but when I saw that Ubuntu has a source package for Etoile I made this idea to try and improve the situation :)

Whise_PT wrote on the 1 Dec 08 at 14:27
im impressed with the presentation , alot of apple lookalike but very prety


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