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Funkpilz
wrote on the 23 Aug 08 at 20:17
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I like this theme, but I think the black is too much. The sleek look is very intriguing, but the black doesn't really work, I'm afraid. And yes, it does look a bit like Vista.
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Double D
wrote on the 23 Aug 08 at 20:18
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its pretty
it would be perfect if all the colors were changeable
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vojvodic
wrote on the 23 Aug 08 at 20:22
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Nice theme, but minimize/unmaximize buttons should be added.
+1
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idtest
wrote on the 23 Aug 08 at 20:31
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A very nice visual style, no matter what it's like. if mac themes are the best looking then whhy should ubuntu choose smth. other and be worse?
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gabox
wrote on the 23 Aug 08 at 22:33
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Very nice base. Need a little change so it doesn't look like a copy of a mac.
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Xepra
wrote on the 23 Aug 08 at 22:43
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While I really like this theme, all these theme brainstorms seem somewhat inappropriate. They are scattered, duplicated, and somewhat random. What we really need is a consolidated place to vote for themes. That way everyone who wants a say can view all viable themes and vote for them. This would provide a much more accurate poll as well as an organized way to view and discuss themes. In fact I think I will make this a brainstorm...
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This is a nice theme, but there's too much Mac OS in it.
Ubuntu should have something different from vista/mac, in my opinion.
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Personally I don't see where the Mac OS X comparisons come from, besides to point out that both themes have nice fonts, both themes have system tray icons that are designed to fit the theme, but themes use flat textures well. Ie. All the similarities are just examples of good design rather than examples of copying Mac OSX's style. If it was brushed metal and had traffic light coloured window buttons then sure it's a copy, but just because both are sophisticated themes with similarities in what they consider good design does not make them a copy.
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chareos
wrote on the 24 Aug 08 at 09:52
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I've never seen this mockup you're talking about, but this Dust theme is AMAZING...
Actually, my #2 preference ( #1 is still Elegant Brit, easily found on Gnome look)
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francois
wrote on the 24 Aug 08 at 10:07
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Nice theme
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Vadim P.
wrote on the 24 Aug 08 at 12:28
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Place Dust and the Mac theme side by side...
imho will will's theme is the only good one so far that doesn't resemble a mac in any way
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If "doesn't resemble a mac in any way" is one of the requirements of the theme then we are never going to get something that looks nice.
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@belovedmonster
Yes, that is one of the requirements. The Mac theme didn't look like a competitor's theme either, and that's why it's superior.
The most important thing for a theme is that it makes the OS look different than the competitors, and that's what the current 'Human' theme does. If it looks like Mac OS X, people will regard it as a cheap Mac OS X clone, no matter how different it behaves. Same for Windows Vista.
Having a bad-looking default style is, marketing-wise, better than having a good looking clone of another OS's default theme, because people will still notice that it's something different.
First it should be *original*. Invent a new style instead of copying what is already 'in'. Then, it should be good-looking.
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Vadim P.
wrote on the 24 Aug 08 at 18:11
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Um, if you hold the mac theme as the epitome of theme design, then you might as well use the real mac theme, no?
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As long as resizing the window is not limited to one pixel at each side and exactly one pixel in each corner.
I would like it more, if there were some Ubuntu-like colours and some more buttons as vojvodic said.
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I'm not saying it should look like a mac, I am saying that it is totally impossible to have a theme that "doesn't resemble a mac in any way". That is like saying you want a car with 4 wheels but it can't resemble a Ford in any way. Good luck finding that.
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foxdie
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 05:38
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I like some shiny black, but most Linux geeks that try to design themes don't understand color theory and composition very well, and this theme fails in the same way. We need color! We need unified looks for buttons, and icons that fit in with the theme. Picking from pre-made packs like Tango icons and the Gnome desktop is the reason why the Linux desktop experience is _bad_ at the moment, and why it won't be adopted widely. If Ubuntu is seriously about bringing Linux to the masses they need to ditch the pre-made icons, and they need to ditch the pre-made desktop environments. They need to make their own unique user interface experience.
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markdarb
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 05:57
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This looks like a very good theme, although I think it needs a bit more of an Ubuntu look. At the very least the blue spot should be replaced with the Ubuntu logo. A more Ubuntu-styled default wallpaper would also be required. And obviously minimise and maximise buttons. Also, the widgets used within Firefox pages (e.g. text boxes) currently don't integrate properly, so that would need fixing.
I have faith in the Ubuntu developers. They tend to make wise choices when it comes to things like themes, and their implementations of new features are always very good (not just crude hacks). I think they would be able to hammer out the kinks in this theme and bring it to a state of suitability for the default theme in 8.10.
I hope we'll see and exciting yet practical and productive theme in 8.10. Dust seems like a real possibility.
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This brainstorm hit the front page of Digg!! It's obviously a very popular theme with the wider tech community as I knew it would be. Currently has 818 diggs and that number is rising all the time.
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I am using Ubuntu 8.04, I tried installing it from "System->Preferences->Appearances" and Theme tab. However all I got was a old KDE like look, nothing like what is given in snapshots.
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If it has 818 diggs, why does it only have the score 69? You'd think that at least 10% of the people who voted it up there would vote it up here. Registering isn't hard at all, after all.
Seems what got the 818 diggs isn't the theme itself, it's the combination of "sexy Ubuntu" in the title...
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kahrytan
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 09:29
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@ashishyadav26
It require Aurora gtk engine. It's not in Ubuntu or it's repositories.
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@kahrytan
Is there any binary package for Aurora or step-by-step instructions to install the Dust theme out there?
I seem to be having some problems trying to install either the Aurora engine or the theme.
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the discussion should not be about "yes, but we should change this and that first because I like that better".
If you ask me, should we adopt this theme or any other slick and aesthetically looking theme, i'd say YES! It doesn't matter which one, as long as it is good looking.
It's amazing how people respond to the looks of an operating system. My wife really hated the Ubuntu interface, untill I changed it to something that looks like Windows. Now she says: "wow! that's fast!" and uses it. That's all we need, right?
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Like it or not, the Human theme is instantly recognizable as Ubuntu. If Ubuntu ships with this theme, its individuality is going to be lost.
I'm all for adopting a different theme, but not this one. The panels look extremely Vista, and the windows themselves look like a geek'd over OS X.
It's nice, but it's a me-too theme.
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Like it or not, the Human theme is instantly recognizable as Ubuntu. If Ubuntu ships with this theme, its individuality is going to be lost.
I'm all for adopting a different theme, but not this one. The panels look extremely Vista, and the windows themselves look like a geek'd over OS X.
It's nice, but it's a me-too theme.
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motang
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 14:35
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It's a good looking theme, by far the best black theme I have seen. It could of course use a bit of polish.
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mernen
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 14:58
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Regarding similarities to OS X and a few usability issues, this is a post I originally made on Reddit:
"Looks way too much like Leopard.
* Borderless windows? That doesn't work so well if you don't have things better planned (i.e., every single resizable window will need a bottom-right resizer; even on OS X, which in theory should have sorted that out already, has its eventual quirks with that). Not to mention the shape of the windows is basically the same as OS X's (rounded upper edges with strikingly similar radius, square lower edges). Then there's the shadow of the windows, quite similar to OS X's too.
* The Firefox theme is obviously an adaptation of the OS X version. Please, we can do better than having round buttons on some toolbars and square buttons on others. Then there's the Safari-ish lack of a status bar, which I find quite bad... and which led here to Firefox being nearly unresizable, due to the lack of a resizer widget.
* Monochrome notification icons, also too similar to OS X's. I particularly dislike that idea, first because it doesn't really fit with the Tango palette, second because you won't succeed in getting all applications (or even the popular ones) to use similarly-themed icons. In no time the notification area will become a mess of colorful and monochrome icons. So, it's better to just stick with something that blends nicely with Tango, since that's the goal of GNOME UIs today.
* The fonts are quite small, and that, together with the color and the lack of hinting (another controversial aspect of OS X, by the way), produce text that is blurry and harder to read than it should by default.
* Plus, it's awfully hard to tell which is the focused window. But since that seems to be just a mock, it could be just that the author didn't work on that yet. Anyway, since I guess the titlebar will have to blend with the menubar for the unified look (another Leopard-ism), it won't be able to change color unless the menu bar also changes, and possibly the whole toolbar/statusbar/client area. I've never seen GTK do that, but I don't know its capabilities either. And changing just the title color will most certainly still be not enough to easily tell the focused window.
A few other problems which can be solved more easily:
* Lack of minimize and maximize buttons.
* Non-hinted fonts. I know, this is configurable, but I find it unlikely that Ubuntu will use them by default, and it'd be nice if the screenshots were taken/mocked looking closer to a default install. My personal favorite is slight hinting, anyway.
Out of curiosity, what is the "No activity" item in the top panel? I assume this is just something the author uses, not a proposal for the default panels.
But of course, the author could address all of these points, so this shouldn't be taken as a "there's no hope here" kind of criticism. I'm eagerly looking forward to new versions."
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weeksa
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 15:08
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K,
Linux's downfall is three-fold.
Too many distros (though Ubuntu is quickly becoming the "face" of linux and will be the one people use)
hard to install software (package manager and CNR have pretty much solved this)
theme (its just not polished or professional).
This theme, is the perfect mix between mac and vista. It is original, its not trying to copy mac (by putting a doc there), its got the gnome interface (love it), and looks very clean, polished, and professional.
This theme made me love ubuntu all over again, and I can only imagine how good it would be with desktop effects turned on.
I also think Ubuntu should start to bundle a media centre app into it.
But this theme can easily become the new look of linux, and make everybody want to switch... Now if only adobe made their products for linux...
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I dunno. It's black, and black themes have had a lot of problems.
On the plus side, it's very similar to the KDE 4 theme, so the apps will look better together.
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Keep the min/max buttons, ensure that scrollbars still nest against screen edges on maximized windows, retain non-MacOS Firefox look, and make all base theme colors customizable, and this will be perfect.
For double-plus awesomeness, make all toolbars able to share a row (including location bars and file menus), so Gnome can stop shamelessly wasting 30% of a small window's height. (Yes, I realize that would mean requiring some upstream intelligence from the Gnome team, but I can dream, can't I?)
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This really should be the default Ubuntu theme.
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sko11ie
wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 17:18
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Another problem - open source supporters moan too much!
I think this theme looks great, and would happily adopt it as my default theme; rather than shooting it down and bleating about it looking like OS X and Vista, give the creator some due!
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I love it, for various reasons:
- Looks professional
- Makes users feel Ubuntu is polite, elegant, clean and (why not) secure.
- When you see it you feel 'the personality', I mean people will say: 'Look its Ubuntu! This is a great system'
- Border less windows makes a lot of sense, just the necessary things and borders are not necessary.
- Combines different colors with elegance, the most dark themes are 'monocolour', this one combines black/brown/blue/grey/white and in my sense orange can be added without disturb, just to empathize 'mouse over' situations.
- It's not the boring: 'bua, looks like poo with this brown', Ubuntu theme should change (everyone knows it), let's give it an elegant look.
But there are some things to improve:
- Inverted tabs are not comfortable (too OSX, this system looks good but is not perfect, let's get the best and improve it to make Ubuntu look like the best)
- Icons should be at the same level and this means a lot of professional work.
- Brown selected buttons doesn't match with black, try with orange, red-wine or gold-whites to check how it looks.
- Scroll bars needs an unified look, KDE4 has done a very good job maybe we can learn from them.
- Panel icons needs more contrast, just plain white buttons (like for blind 'assistive accessibility') will look great, and clean.
Well, I hope this helps. Definitely one vote for 'Dust'.
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the only thing thats looks like mac os x is the icon set, and honestly im on vista right now and i dont see a real resemblance all. however i do respect your point about the impossible mockup theme. i love that theme but hope for it being the default for intrepid shouldnt be too high. ubuntu intrepid should be beautiful but i think that there isnt enough time to implement a theme like the famous "mockup". i dont even think there is a official prototype for it. but anyway, this theme is the best POSSIBLE theme for intrepid i ive seen to date.
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jamesmcm
wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 08:33
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Looks very steam-like with the dark grey/black toolbars. But I like it and it's miles better than the default theme. +1
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The design has been updated, make sure you check the link out again. Some of the changes are very nice, some less so nice, but either way it shows that this theme is adaptable and therefore can have the kinks ironed out before release time.
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Jiimmy
wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 09:31
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It's awesome and should be the default theme !!!
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metjay
wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 14:08
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if a few presets of color sets were added, I'm 100% with you. I personally prefere shiny colors but the controlls and window-borders are fabulous.
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palango
wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 14:20
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This theme is great. Hope this will be in Intrepid! +1
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Some people here don't understand the concept of a mockup.
Mockups are unfinished and comments like "it should have
min and max buttons" are pointless.Of course its going
to have them.And the transparent toolbars aren't even
possible with the current gnome setup.The only thing
the mockup is for is the metacity (window border) and gtk themes.
Also, how is this like a mac?The mac is brushed steel and
is a lot lighter than this.Or is it because the window
title and the rest of the window are of the same color?
Mac didn't invent that so big deal.
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volvis
wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 15:33
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"If it looks like Mac OS X, people will regard it as a cheap Mac OS X clone"
I registered just to say this one thing. I'd buy a mac if I had the money. If Ubuntu adopted some of the metrosexual appeal of the MacOS, I wouldn't hesitate to give it a go. (Yes, I'm shallow that way)
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I downloaded LUX from gnome art, Looks exactly like dust, I stopped using it however, I LOVE black,but it's frustrating if you can't read everything.In the existing human theme everything is visible.I hate blue.
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The mockup has been updated again. Check it out.
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I hope they don't get rid of the old theme; I actually like it.
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I have no clue how this looks like OS X. Maybe ppl are confusing the FF3 Back/Forward buttons. At either rate, this is better than the 'OMGAwesome theme' and, more importantly, actually exists.
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opu.e
wrote on the 2 Sep 08 at 14:33
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A serious Design, right. Thats the way we should go!
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garferi
wrote on the 2 Sep 08 at 15:11
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Best theme ever!!! I love it!
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Best theme I've never seen. Could be default...
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This is a far more realistic theme than the Wallight mockup. This theme really does exist, doesn't use awn etc., and the most important: this theme is not bound to a color.
The most annoying thing of the human theme, for example, is that only orange/brown wallpapers look good with it.
Although this theme needs finetuning (some letters are hard to read because of a low contrast), and it's still far from perfect, this could be a step in the good direction for Ubuntu 9.04.
For Ubuntu 8.10 , you're simply too late. The UI freeze is at 9/11 (I didn't decide that).
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Jadd
wrote on the 8 Sep 08 at 13:49
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Bah, I like the human theme. That theme just looks like a bad copy of Vista.
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bagano
wrote on the 11 Sep 08 at 20:16
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love it, its not perfect - nowhere near.
you say no-one will use black??
well what the hell, you'll get no-one to switch with brown!
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6205
wrote on the 13 Sep 08 at 17:04
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I don't like dark themes and 99% will agree with me. Wake up you idiots.
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carpii
wrote on the 21 Sep 08 at 06:19
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Looks like Vista?!
Id say it looks more like Windows 95, with those horrible grey buttons and tabs.
Human is a nice simple theme, I like it. Im guessing whichever one is default youd end up hating once youve seen it for a long time
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romu
wrote on the 7 Nov 08 at 14:20
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I love Dust, but it lacks an Icons dedicated them.
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Nice theme, I'm using it right know, it's certainly far better than Human. Similar to Mac OS X, Where? I fail to find any true similarity, those who said that is Vista like probably have never use Vista XD.
A set of icons would be a bless, but it blends fine with Oxygen :)
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It looks great, but the theme needs to scream "Ubuntu!"
One thing that would be nice is to keep Ubuntu's current default font, I think. The font there looks like Vista's.
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d0od
wrote on the 2 Feb 09 at 15:18
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I much prefer the willwill mock up for Ubuntu: -
http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_w illwill100.png
Which has pretty much been created bar the gnome do theme and the screenlet. Hardly "theme" central anyway. I'm using it right now and it's great.
DUST, whilst alright, is too dark and several parts aren't well configured meaning you get mis-matching styles - hardly what you need in a uniform theme. Also, it gives you a horrible solid taskbar. I prefer being able to have my taskbar how i want it, not at the dictatorship of a theme. If i try and have it how i want it with DUST i get 3/4's of what i want and then chunky black boxes for the rest. not cool. not sexy.
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euxneks
wrote on the 13 Mar 09 at 23:43
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I've been using Dust for the last couple of weeks and I have to say it's fantastic. This should be the default theme in ubuntu, maybe lighten it up a bit because it's a bit dark but it works great!
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Ubuntu's Human theme should be made more extravagant. The reason OS X is so nice is because the windows look like physical objects. Perhaps a good solution would be to make an Ubuntu theme that looks like wood, clay, and stone?
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Starting with Ubuntu 10.04, "Ambiance" is the default theme in Ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand
Anyway the "Dust" theme is included in gnome-themes-ubuntu package which installed by default in Ubuntu.
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