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Idea #12016: What to do with Ideas that aren't Ideas...

bug This idea was marked as already implemented the 19 January 09.
Written by DanRabbit the 9 Aug 08 at 00:28. Related project: brainstorm.ubuntu.com. Status: Already implemented
Rationale
So, its nice that things are marked not and idea or duplicate or spam or done or whatever. But why are they still there? They just clutter everything up.

Ideas that are marked should not show up unless you are searching for them. They make a mess out of the popular, latests, and random lists.

Anything marked as not an idea should be deleted, or at least moved to another section of the website as an example of a bad submission.

Dupes should be overwritten with just a link to the original idea.

Bugs should be moved to their own section, or deleted.

Basically, things that don't really have any need for a vote should be pushed out of the public eye, allowing better ideas to be exposed.
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Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #12016
Written by DanRabbit the 9 Aug 08 at 00:28.
Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #12016 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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Arnaudus wrote on the 9 Aug 08 at 12:26
I agree that Brainstorm has to find solutions to deal with its popularity. There are now > 11000 ideas in Brainstorm, and most of them are just useless. Many duplicates are not tagged, many "not an idea" are not reported. More annoyingly perhaps, most good ideas that are a bit technical are drown under tons of stupid suggestions (such as "make the wireless work", "improve the default icons" or "make this work exactly as in Windows").

In my opinion, the general issue with Brainstorm is that it is not ruled: the site more or less stands by itself, some people try to clean it a bit e.g. by reporting duplicates, but it's not enough (I can find approximately 50% of duplicates from a page of "Random ideas"). In particular, many ideas should be tagged as "Won't implement", because they are contrary to Ubuntu policy, and many more should be tagged as "Trivial idea" ans should be discarded (such as "better support for printers", "make the distro better"...). Brainstorm is *very* successful and there are hundred of excellent, new ideas... unfortunately, they all are hidden with medium vote counts; probably because of the weak culture in informatics of most contributors --no offence intended, that probably means that Ubuntu is quite successful in attracting non-geeks, but it's a problem in Brainstorm since votes are not weighted.

pengo wrote on the 11 Aug 08 at 23:26
Do not delete duplicates. More often than not, they are not exact duplicates, but variations on a theme that should be considered by anything thinking of implementing the idea.

Bugs and ideas marked "not an idea" should stick around for at least a few days (a week?) so that users don't get confused when the idea they were looking at yesterday or a minute ago can't be found again. I guess that's why they have the system as it is right now.


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