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    <description><![CDATA[Originally, i was really against the idea of a dark theme, and maybe i'd still prefer it if Ubuntu would lighten up a little. I understand the organic theme completely, but please...this is an operating system. Anyways, all the dark themes i had seen really turned me off and even the best ones seemed to be loved by some and hated by others. If we're going to have a dark theme, lets have one that we can all agree on. When i saw the Intrepid alpha screenshot, like many others, i gagged a little. <br /><br />How people interact with their computer is really essential to their satisfaction. This is why aside from features, the software's stability (minimizing annoying bugs), speed (clean code and making everything as efficient and responsive as possible), and interface (look and feel) are the three most important things that should be our focus and be kept at a high priority. <br />We should really work to increase usability: http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2008/08/01/free-software-usability<br /><br />I have looked through all the artwork submissions for Intrepid, and of all of them, this is the one dark theme that i would actually like to use: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Wall-light<br /><br />I first saw it on this Digg submission: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intrepid_Ibex_Mockup_Designs<br /><br />Of course, i'm sure everyone will have input to make it even better. This isn't a final design, but vote for the concept so far! <br /><br />P.S. Please Digg :) Thanks http://digg.com/linux_unix/Vote_for_a_beautiful_usable_Ubuntu<br />
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  <title>Comment from neon</title>
  <description><![CDATA[How many times do we have to remind people, the dark theme was only for testing purposes; in fact, for default it's been switched back to the light version.<br /><br />And that's only a mock up, if it wants to have even a chance, the person needs to get an actual working theme.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Stephen Gentle</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Wow, what an amazing mock up! The GDM Theme looks great, and having AWN by default, and one panel at the top (which I have done for a while now) makes a lot more sense to me than what we have now.<br /><br />The only thing I don't really like is the menu - I would rather have a transparent look instead of the yellow.<br /><br />I think that making a real theme like this would help Ubuntu popularity FAR more than any amount of features - first impressions are very important, and I don't think that Ubuntu is doing very well in that respect!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from geenux</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Awesome ! I hope it will be the default theme in the next version !  ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from aethralis</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I have to say that I like this dark theme a lot. I used hardy with the new human theme (from kenneth wimer ppa) and got really used with it. I think that the mock-up posted above is the direction the theme should develop. I'm not really sure about the AWN dock though.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Stephen Gentle</title>
  <description><![CDATA[A dock is not so important, but they should at least have the Gnome panel transparent by default.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from sirkubador</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I definitely agree, we need better dark theme, but I dont think yours is the right one. Transparent panel and AWN look completely horrible if there is a maximized window - and I think that most people work only in maximized windows (That is perhaps the reason why there aren't any screenshots of it). But all other things of this theme is simply great.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from glotz</title>
  <description><![CDATA[-1 becoz i wantz a theme that suckxxx!1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from v1ncent</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This mockups should inspire designers, not be used as a exact model.<br /><br />I think dark themes could be good, especially if they are well implemented... Anyway, this mockups could have a light version and would still be very good.<br /><br />I specially like the GDM (http://tinyurl.com/6phceg), OMG! someone of the Ubuntu team please see it and get inspired! It even could be based in the new GDM that supposedly will be implemented on Intrepid... That design is amazing.<br /><br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from DanRabbit</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I love willwill's work. voted way up!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from MetalMessiah</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Great Job! here my vote...  ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ubunteando</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The Devs REALLY NEED to focus on a new, inspiring theme for Ibex!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from RicoSuave</title>
  <description><![CDATA[very nice +1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from VintQ</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Speaking from a designer's point of view; even while it has a strong influence from OSX and Vista, this theme mockup is by far the best that has been created for Ubuntu.<br /><br />I find it sad to see inflexibility in several comments. If the decision to keep a light default theme remains, it is perfectly possible to make a derative that looks equally beautiful. Minor tweaks to increase usability and add a finishing touch can always be done later. Also keep in mind that while widgets look great, they are optional and not necessarily enabled/installed by default.<br /><br />This is a great start! Keep up to good work. +1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ubunteando</title>
  <description><![CDATA[VintQ +1 to your comment.<br /><br />I really hope dev's start listening more to the non-geek part of potential users...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from zelrikriando</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1 <br /><br />I love dark themes and I think theming an OS is a very good thing in general. I have been struggling with dark themes (mostly in combination with OpenOffice.org or Firefox) and I think the developers could easily fix that with little effort.<br /><br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from motang</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I would like to see a working theme!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from gsiliceo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think dark is taken by VISTA and metal by OSX, i think we should go with light smooth and AWN by default will only be a good choice when the 3d support is sorted out, too many ubuntu installations fail with the 3d drivers.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from interflop</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Even though this is only a mockup, I'm positive a theme like this could be made for the next release of Ubuntu.  It would be a big step in creating a both functional and appealing desktop OS.<br /><br />Unfortunately if the community wants Ubuntu to spread and become mainstream, the OS has to be aesthetically pleasing.  A theme like this will make a very good first impression when you boot it up to show friends.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from _alex_</title>
  <description><![CDATA[While this theme looks very nice, I'm a bit worried of how it will look when there's a lot more windows open (esp. with that transparent title bar).<br /><br />Also, while this is the best looking dark theme I've ever seen, I still prefer light themes, because most web pages have a white background (dark border + white page is too much contrast and wears on my eyes).<br /><br />However, I definitely would like the author to collaborate on the future Ubuntu theme (perhaps do a light version and ship both with intrepid)...<br /><br />I really like the login screen. Nothing negative to say about that. Elegant and functional.<br /><br />I think people who compare it to OSX/Vista do so mostly becayse of the dock and sidebar gadgets (both of which probably won't be included by default anyway). I think the theme itself is quite distinct and polished.<br /><br />+1 from me.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from chmoder</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I voted.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from farmeunit</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I like the current theme better.  Not into wood much.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from rmiller</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1 ubuntu's current default theme scares people off. plain and simple. Features and stability is great, but without a nice looking UI ubuntu will have a very hard time becoming more mainstream.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cwgannon</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This looks great.  Ubuntu looks now much too much like Windows and OS X from a few years back, and this theme would put it on par with them both, though a bit more tastefully, I think.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Tenoq</title>
  <description><![CDATA[That's outstanding, and much nicer than previous mockups.  I'd really like to see this or something similar in Intrepid.  <br /><br />Only other complaint then would be font rendering (especially in Firefox). :p]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from TheTutorial</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Dude if this is what they can make happen man OS X and Vista will be in the dust.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from therockst4r</title>
  <description><![CDATA[That theme was beautiful.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from kvncortez</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This is how Ubuntu should look!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Xepra</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I voted down simply because I don't like the way this brainstorm was described.<br /><br />No one wants a theme that sucks.  So what are we voting on then?  If it is the theme then the title should say vote +1 if you like this theme.  Also maybe throw a little more credit willwill's way...<br /><br /><br />And now I will stfu because quite clearly DPic has done a lot more for Ubuntu than I have:<br /><br />https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dpic<br /><br />:p<br /><br />The theme is pretty sweet looking tho.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from david.cs</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This theme is really amazing and is the most beautiful of the current artwork mockups for Intrepid.<br /><br />I really want a theme like this in the next version of Ubuntu.<br /><br />Congratulation to the author for his great talent and for give us something to dream.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Dread Knight</title>
  <description><![CDATA[OMG! So gorgeous!<br />+1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from JonBoy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[OK how about this?  I signed up to post on these forums just so I could post on this thread.  This theme is amazing and if you want to beat Microsoft and Apple on the bling stakes then this is how to do it.  People are crying out for a more modern theme.  This is it.<br /><br />Potential new users seem hesitant to take Linux seriously.  With a desktop like that how could you not?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from indiehead</title>
  <description><![CDATA[i think that's an awesome theme, much better than the standard one and a definite improvement.<br /><br />please make it or something like it the default, would seriously compare well with Leopard + Vista<br /><br /><br />Good Work]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from thade</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1 signed up just to vote for this!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Catsceo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[-1<br /><br />The Ubuntu artwork devs need to focus on originality, not copying the OS X dock and Vista sidebar.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from sw3t</title>
  <description><![CDATA[-1<br /><br />I woud like to see a beautifull theme. ans possibly more compact (see ClearLooks Compact) <br /><br />But this is not a theme, this is a drawing, it looks pretty because it does not even display nautilus or a browser, it's just a panel and songbird which is black by default and pretty but doesn't even use gtk !]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from chatainsim</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1<br />It's very nice ;) i love it !]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from onenalone</title>
  <description><![CDATA[You have my plus one.<br />It is great one.<br /><br />Cheers!!!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from lispy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Just saw this screen on Techcrunch: http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/a4.jpg<br /><br />I really like the idea of making little previews of the windows as your dock. This should be a now brainer using compiz and would fit much better with Ubuntu than a half-baked dock clone.<br /><br />Anyone know if there is a plugin out that uses this functionality?<br /><br />cheers,<br />Marcus]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from lolocaust</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Amazing theme! Just take out the dock and sidebar, but keep only one panel (at the top) and keep the window list there.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from belovedmonster</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I'm not normally someone who likes dark themes, but dang, that is the most beautiful mock up I've ever seen. Some aspects of it need tweaking like I'm not fussed on the yellow for regular windows, but holy moley that thing is pretty. Even if this doesnt end up being the theme I think it shows the direction that Ubuntu needs to be going in.<br /><br />Just in case no one noticed, over on Digg everyone is gushing over this theme as much as me. If the developers have any sense they will pursue this theme. Give the people what they want!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Sigmund Fraud</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I haven't looked at brainstorm in months now. I saw the theme, knew exactly what half of the community/developers would have said and decided to wade on in.<br /><br />This theme is simply beautiful. I've shown it to eight people now, five Ubuntu users and three Windows users. Two of them are graphic designers by trade (one is a winner of the D&AD award). Every single one of them thought this was beautiful. They had their comments, most of them disliked AWN and the sidebar, but the GDM, the window borders, the panels and the widgets impressed all of them.<br /><br />Some people are ignorant enough to believe that the UI doesn't matter to much as long as it's usable. That's a silly approach, some people use their computer for upwards of eight hours a day, they want to be looking at something beautiful.<br /><br />Ubuntu used to be about striving to be something nobody else was. It used to be about taking what people in the FOSS community had just joked about before and making it a reality; Ubuntu has taking Linux and planted it squarely in the minds of millions of ordinary people. Some of them might not use it, many of them might not use it, but they know about it.<br /><br />Recently it seems there's a lot more negativity, comments like:<br />"But this is not a theme, this is a drawing, it looks pretty because it does not even display nautilus or a browser, it's just a panel and songbird which is black by default and pretty but doesn't even use gtk!"<br />"And that's only a mock up, if it wants to have even a chance, the person needs to get an actual working theme."<br /><br />Don't move Ubuntu forward, they don't help anyone. Nobody seems to strive to do anything anymore, it's just become a rinse and repeat process of some new features that might be useful and might not. <br /><br />This is something so fundamental, so powerful and so basic that it should be paid some more respect than it currently is.<br /><br />My personal thoughts on this:<br /><br />Scrap AWN and the sidebar, they're unneeded and if people really want them they can install it themselves. They only add complexity to what should be something simple and clean.<br /><br />The theme is absolutely beautiful; it would be fantastic in both light and dark. Sure, some of what is there is an impossibility with the current rendering engine. I don't see what the problem is? This is a community of programmers, developers, and knowledgeable folk and it's being called an impossibility? Where did this sudden belief that if somebody else hasn't done it, we can't do it? That we can't strive to have something that looks beautiful and really, really sells Ubuntu to the community and the public alike?<br /><br />This is something so fundamental to an individuals usage of an operating system. After bug fixing, this is the first place we should be striving to perfect.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Fjatle</title>
  <description><![CDATA[If this theme could be done, than.... wow]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from RobinJ</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This theme shouldn't be default, but it (or something similar) should be shipped with the distro.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from pickypg</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I could get numerous people to switch with that theme.<br /><br />AWN is not necessary, but the simplicity of adding it by default and the attractiveness of it make it a very obvious and desirable feature. Plus it's not a big deal when talking DVD sized ISOs anyway.<br /><br />While the sidebar isn't necessary, it also adds a look and feel that would keep people coming from Vista comfortable with it, and to be honest, just why not? It's not bloat because it can be very useful.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Mr. Psychopath</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think these mockups look excellent, I'd love to see them implemented.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from wkdude18</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think the aesthetic ideal presented here is very pleasing. It would be quite nice if Ubuntu could make itself look prettier than Vista (instead of uglier than a 1996 Mac) and still maintain its greater performance capabilities.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from jtomelevage</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I like this design.  If is sleek.  Use it.  People who don't like it will install another one.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from onnob</title>
  <description><![CDATA[It would be nice if there were more default good themes that could be installed withoud 100+ plugins and extra's. <br />I like the theme though.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from tdickson</title>
  <description><![CDATA[PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... you get the point.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Gensou</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please, PLEASE! Use the Intrepid Ibex theme! http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-1-93584571]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from lucasmars</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Simply the best theme i've ever seen !<br />yellow could be change into an another color but the whole theme is brilliant ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Scrapnonz</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I like how this now has over 1600 diggs, yet only 363 actual votes...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from pengo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I don't think "usability" means what you think it means. <br /><br />In article you referenced, Thomas mentions "designers" in relation to usability. Thomas is not talking about graphic designers.<br /><br />Usability would be, say, fixing the login screen so that the username and password appear on separate lines. Fixing this would mean users get less confused and the interface would be more intuitive. This is usability.<br /><br />Changing the background and skin is not usability.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from neon</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Pengo...what are you talking about? o.O<br />Changing the theme can greatly impact usability.<br /><br />And that's not a huge problem. Honestly, it shouldn't be necessary soon if the face browser ever gets working.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from BilliShere</title>
  <description><![CDATA[here is a work in progress GDM:<br /><br />http://billishere.deviantart.com/art/INTREPID-IBEX-GDM-IN-PROGRESS-94036368<br /><br />all we need now is someone to do the xml coding. <br />all credit goes to willwill100. its his work.. i just made an xcf based on it.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from mgunes</title>
  <description><![CDATA["Please, PLEASE! Use the Intrepid Ibex theme! http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-1-93584571 "<br /><br />Use a theme that doesn't exist? How?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from DanRabbit</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@ mgunes<br /><br />get the ubuntu artwork guys to work with willwill?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from mgunes</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Who will do that, and how?<br /><br />"The Ubuntu artwork guys" are a well intentioned but mostly uncoordinated group of people with disparate interests and skills, who do not represent any coherent team structure or crew mentality. If there are people interested in working on realizing this mockup, they can work on that, as individuals, on their own initiative. If the creator of this mockup is interested in working with the group, they can join it. You cannot "get" the group as a whole to work on something they aren't interested in working on, and rest assured that nobody will want to drop their own work and embark on an impossible crusade to realize this in time for 8.10.<br /><br />And more importantly, why? I don't see any statement of goal, purpose or intended audience, any hint of a vision for what Ubuntu default design should be alongside this piece of work. As such, it's just another wow-at-first-sight mockup that's both technically unfeasible (compositing, dock installed by default, rounded menu corners, gradient window background, possibly non-free font, a considerable part of the "wow factor" coming from Songbird and Gnome Do, two apps that are redundant with current Ubuntu defaults, rather than theme elements themselves) and design-wise short sighted as a default theme (bright yellow with dark brown resulting in excessive contrast that may not work well on many monitors, no info on how selected, unfocused and items look, or how various widgets look) which is accompanied by nothing more than a weak "change for change's sake" mission statement. Such mockups have historically done little beyond triggering false expectations and creating mass disappointment and distrust when their implementation naturally fails. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <description><![CDATA[@ mgunes<br /><br />I just took an hour to build (the best I could) the GDM pictured here. I think maybe you're taking it too literally, or paying attention to the wrong things. This is a starting point, not an ending point. It leaves a lot of things open to imagination. It's a general direction, not a clear map. And yes, some of these things are prohibited by software limitations. But, most of them can be worked around. last I checked Mac4Lin had rounded menu corners for their leopard theme. Even though its a bit of a hack, it works.<br /><br />If you can't see any vision for what Ubuntu should become by looking at this artwork, I believe you need your eyes checked. The people want a beautiful Ubuntu. Shuttleworth has said he wants to compete with Apple in the beauty contest. And, if he's really serious about it, he'd think Will's artwork says quite a bit.<br /><br />Here's a link to the GDM I made: http://danrabbit.deviantart.com/art/Willwill-s-Intrepid-GDM-94051500]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from mgunes</title>
  <description><![CDATA["This is a starting point, not an ending point. It leaves a lot of things open to imagination. It's a general direction, not a clear map."<br /><br />I know. The three problems I'm trying to highlight are:<br /><br />* At this point of the development cycle, you need more than general directions and starting points if you're aiming for default inclusion.<br /><br />* We have enough general directions, vague statements in favor of progress and half-baked ideas, and too little work going into addressing the actual underlying problems with our existing design doctrine, or lack thereof.<br /><br />* Mistaking ambitious mockups for near-complete themes is on the verge of becoming an unfortunate tradition, one that creates disappointment when the "promise" is not "delivered". That kind of misinformation needs to be countered.<br /><br />"And yes, some of these things are prohibited by software limitations. But, most of them can be worked around."<br /><br />For a theme meant for personal use, why not. For the default theme of a distribution with hundreds of thousands of users, hackish workarounds that cannot go upstream are sure to be ruled out.<br /><br />"If you can't see any vision for what Ubuntu should become by looking at this artwork, I believe you need your eyes checked."<br /><br />In other words, because I disagree with you, I'm blind? I find that offensive, especially given that I've put forward specific arguments outlining my disagreement. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from DanRabbit</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@ mgunes<br /><br />dude, its august. It doesn't take a month to build a gtk theme and a GDM. I don't know what the Ubuntu artwork team is doing that they'd be so trouble to drop it. Everything I've seen is a lame re-coloration here or a barely half-assed icon there.<br /><br />I don't know when mockups became "half-baked ideas". I'm pretty sure thats a very important part of the design process. Somebody thought it was a very good design and shared it. Now, about 430 people think its a good idea and want to see it realized.<br /><br />And who says hacks and workarounds can't make their way upstream? Isn't that what Linux is about? Making software evolve piece by piece?<br /><br />Even if there was no way whatsoever for this to become possible in the next 5 years, you have to admit that will's artwork demonstrates vision. Maybe you just can't see it. But, a lot of people can. A lot of people like this. And, a lot of people want this. Even if you really really hated this, you have to realize that it has more worth than what we typically see from a Linux distro.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from neon</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Dan, I think you're a really good leader.  Honestly.<br /><br />You took the Elementary Desktop Project and actually went with it, you're actively working on it. And if you like this design, work on it and see if you can recruit some people. <br /><br />You've already done a great job on that GDM, and if I knew anything at all about art / programming / gtk themes I'd definitely help, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.<br />(I mean, wanting to help, not having any talent with it...of course, I'm not alone in that either, but yeah. xD) <br /><br />All in all, join the art mailing list, see if you can get some people. Or maybe you're already on there, I don't really pay attention anymore, it's all just stupid ass topics they talk about like how we all need to stop top posting and such.<br /><br />Don't aim to be included, just aim to make a great theme, and the rest might follow. (:]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from mgunes</title>
  <description><![CDATA["dude, its august. It doesn't take a month to build a gtk theme and a GDM."<br /><br />There's no standard by which to quantify how long it should take to build a theme, simply because "build a theme" is not a well defined goal. A week may be too long, a year may be too short. Unless the goal you want to attain is specified (and here it's not, hence my point), there's no way to know. <br /><br />"I don't know what the Ubuntu artwork team is doing that they'd be so trouble to drop it. Everything I've seen is a lame re-coloration here or a barely half-assed icon there."<br /><br />The top-down assumption of some non-existent homogeneous entity called "The Ubuntu artwork team" doing work on a random mockup to realize it is entirely the wrong concept. There is no "Ubuntu artwork team" in the sense you're talking about. There are various individuals posting to the same mailing list, a small number of whom happen to be actually working on specific themes, the criteria for the inclusion or rejection of which are unknown.<br /><br />"I don't know when mockups became "half-baked ideas". I'm pretty sure thats a very important part of the design process. Somebody thought it was a very good design and shared it. Now, about 430 people think its a good idea and want to see it realized." <br /><br />That exact sequence of half-baked idea > unfeasible mockup > no specifics on implementation > huge tide of community interest > still no word on implementation > flame war > initial failures at implementation > interest fading out > preliminary GTK theme that "does" 1% of what the mockup suggested > testers losing interest > community rage and disappointment at release time because "What happened to all those great themes on the wiki????!!!!11" has happened about 4389348972 times in the history of Ubuntu's design discourse. I'm merely stating my own skepticism at the apparent outset of another. You can choose to completely ignore what I say.<br /><br />"And who says hacks and workarounds can't make their way upstream?" <br /><br />Upstreams, obviously.<br /><br />"Isn't that what Linux is about? Making software evolve piece by piece?"<br /><br />Workarounds do not make software evolve; solutions do. <br /><br />"Even if there was no way whatsoever for this to become possible in the next 5 years, you have to admit that will's artwork demonstrates vision."<br /><br />That's a very didactic line of argumentation. Why do I <b> have to</b> agree with you and "admit" things you haven't proven to be facts, when you haven't put forward any arguments whatsoever on grounds of design as to why exactly this theme is "good", and merely resorted to blanket statements that state the obvious, but add nothing of substance to the discussion such as "People want a beautiful Ubuntu"? Why can't we agree to disagree? If you think this mockup represents something worth striving to realize, more power to you; go ahead and work on it. Just note that there are enough people around who are tired of the "This is where it's at and if you disagree, you're blocking the path to progress and deserve to be lambasted" attitude that precludes any fruitful discourse.<br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from occulkot</title>
  <description><![CDATA[http://thrynk.deviantart.com/art/Royalty-GTK-67293584 - i think this is one of the greatest "dark" gtk theme]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from gnufs</title>
  <description><![CDATA[<br />sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-theme<br /><br /><br />no extra repositories or gnome-look downloads needed.<br /><br />it's not a background image hack either. it totally integrates with all panels and application windows.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from darius.regnier</title>
  <description><![CDATA[sirkubador: AWN has an option to hide behind maximized windows.<br /><br />As for this theme being too vista-ish or osx-ish, the only thing that makes it that way are AWN and the widgets, WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT BE PART OF THE THEME. (I wasn't screaming right there, I just thought that point was extremely important and too many people were overlooking it) The thing to look at concerning the theme are:<br />1) the panel<br />2) the notification areas<br />3) the menu<br />4) the windows<br />5) the GDM theme<br /><br />and NOT<br />1) Songbird<br />2) AWN<br />3) The Widgets<br /><br />I agree that this is needed to make Ubuntu visually appealing, ESPECIALLY to new users. Who wouldn't be impressed seeing this theme for the first time. Even NewHuman (current default for intrepid) doesn't look that great.<br /><br />or another idea, maybe not make it a default theme, but make it a pre-installed theme.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nenelinux</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Ubuntu users we must seize the failure of Windows Vista and have a strategy to attract more users and I think it is this is the time and this is the perfect item <br /><br />so I vote for this wonderful item <br /><br />here there are more issues like GTK<br /><br />http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910#<br /><br />http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-1-93584571#]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ubunteando</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@mgunes<br /><br />You have your point, but I hope Ubuntu doesn't rely on people like you to decide their design strategy.<br /><br />People like you (with your good argumentations, yadayada) is what has made LINUX an operating system used only by 1% of people.<br /><br />Ubuntu DOES need a HUGE improvement in DESIGN.<br /><br />Mockups like this PROVE Ubuntu can look better than Windows 2000...<br /><br />And Mark Shuttleworth, so proud he is of his system, and as an entrepreneur he is, should see this and PAY A GOOD SALARY to group of developers to create a ASTONISHING default theme, Im talking about proffessionals.<br /><br />And I could keep on argumenting different theories, but I just wanted to point how important is to actually put resources ASAP and greatly improve Ubuntu's look. Not in comparison with other Linux distros, but in comparison with other OS's in the marketplace.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from jorgevan007</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I hope Mark Shuttleworth looks at this theme..its great!<br />Its the best thing i have seen for Ubuntu themes. <br />Finish working on this theme and include in Intrepid. If Ubuntu is going to be an alternative to Windows and Apple, it is cool designs like this that are going to call people's attention. The human theme is ridiculous and its black version is even worse. Take advantage of people who really know about design. Let the programmers do the coding and the art people do its job too. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from eversmann</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Yeah please! this themes!! <br /><br />Plus a great usplash/terminal themes like in suse ;-)<br /><br />Ubuntu is rocking more and more!!!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from eviltechie</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I love this theme. Please make a working version!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from seshomaru samma</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The best thing about this idea is the link to the article about usability. <br />This would be difficult because Canonical can't control many of the applications . But the major ones such as Open Office or the main media player should be more usable. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from polishubuntu</title>
  <description><![CDATA[when that theme becomes real, there is not need for making Ubuntu look more beautiful]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from anon_user</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please dont include Vista and Mac OS theme.  Even the panel showing the places menu looks like the Mac OS only.  Wallpaper is good, even login screen is also nice.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from mgunes</title>
  <description><![CDATA["You have your point, but I hope Ubuntu doesn't rely on people like you to decide their design strategy."<br /><br />Don't worry, it doesn't.<br /><br />"People like you (with your good argumentations, yadayada) is what has made LINUX an operating system used only by 1% of people."<br /><br />Thanks for the ad hominem. Obviously, everyone who disagrees with you is the bane of Linux, so no need to discuss. You may benefit from a reading of http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html .<br /><br />"Ubuntu DOES need a HUGE improvement in DESIGN."<br /><br />Where have I said it doesn't? I just happen to disagree with your notion of "improvement", and unlike you, have cited the reasons why.<br /><br />"Mockups like this PROVE Ubuntu can look better than Windows 2000..."<br /><br />This particular mockup, along with the reactions to it, proves little other than the fact that many people are dissatisfied with Ubuntu's default visuals that they will embrace any possibility of change with arms wide open. It doesn't by itself prove that Ubuntu can actually look like what it depicts, and doesn't prove that such looks (?) are a good goal to work towards among the wide range of existing possibilities. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from zbraniecki</title>
  <description><![CDATA[mgunes: while I agree with your responses, and I feel similar kind of negative nailing when I'm working with such people in my project, I still think that such positive feedback from the community deserves something more from "ubuntu developer" than strong, realistic criticism.<br />You have full right to go your way, but please, bear in mind that as far as I can see, you're the only "authority" of any kind (despite that you may well not be related to UI of Ubuntu at all) that stated any position on this concept. No comment on blogs, nothing here that would indicate any interest from Ubuntu project authorities of any kind in working in this direction. The concept generated very positive and strong buzz around it, and with a little effort could start a real effort with real participants and projectization. I have a feeling that the anonymous crowd is waiting for "ubuntu team" to say yes/no on wherever this concept is something that ubuntu might adopt as a default one and maybe some support from members of Ubuntu Art Team to gather artist interested in driving this concept to realization. Your response may be very true, but also very dispiriting.<br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from omfgjeannie</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I love it. I'd really like to see a dark theme that isn't hideous or goes crazy with being "dark"<br /><br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Endolith</title>
  <description><![CDATA[We should be able to submit all kinds of mockups and themes to a single centralized site, and vote for which should be used by default.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from n-pigeon</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This theme is awesome :D I want to see it in next Ubuntu. This theme is better than Vista or Mac Leo :D and very good for eyes.<br />Wallpaper is great too.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from MockY</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Wow, wow, and then some more WOW. That theme really kick ass. Though the menu needs some touching up. The login screen and the wallpaper is the nicest I have ever seen. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Map</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This theme must be in the next relase of Ubuntu, I think that will impress the newies and it will do our work nicerst, more beautiful, more modern. Maybe it will be the way to follow by other distro. <br /><br />A good "face" and usability are really important for a OS, this theme will power it, this theme will make it more different too, differenciation is the key for sucess. Apple knows it.<br /><br />Ubuntu is the really first human-friendly distro, this theme will be a really good way to improve that, it will be a bit polemic, but the theme is awesome, and it can fight with MacOS and Vista too, it can win them.<br /><br />I think that this theme is really important, this theme is perfect for Ubuntu, this theme must be theme for Ubuntu.<br /><br /><br />Greetings from Spain, I apologize for my poor english. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from aethralis</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please understand that the moment this mockup is developed into an actual theme serious discussion about it could begin. Until then it is only fantasy and demands that all fantasies must me fulfilled and "happiness  for  everybody, free, and no one will go away unsatisfied!" are very nice but not particulary constructive. When you like this mockup so much, please start to develop it into an actual theme. But so far as I understand the person responsible for these mockups has not even released the sorce files...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Enork</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This is a very good mockup and i like it.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from pejeno</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Very nice mockup. I hope it gets implemented into Intrepid Ibex. =)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from DanRabbit</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@ aethralis<br /><br />Check Gnome-look.org there are people working on it :)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Exsecrabilus</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This theme blows. OS X look-a-like, that's a failure for one. Heavy reliance on compositing, that's another.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from LostOverThere</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Its stunning! But it heavily relies on compositing which would cut a lot of our users off. :(]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from socceroos</title>
  <description><![CDATA[People saying that the theme 'heavily relies on compositing' are pretty wrong.<br /><br />It would be royally simple to just have a nice gradient instead of the translucency and the theme would look JUST AS NICE.<br /><br />All that remains is for this theme to be adopted and developed.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from andrek</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Glow Ibex<br />(it's Glow Ibex if a space between these words makes it unable to visit the site)<br />Wonderful dark human theme. Unfortunately, requires Aurora engine - but hey, it's worth implementating it!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Exsecrabilus</title>
  <description><![CDATA[No Andrek. What you are saying is "Well it has a buggy and slow engine as its back-end, but putting all that aside, it still looks good, right?" You contradict yourself. Aurora sucks. End of story.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from adredz</title>
  <description><![CDATA[holly Cow! mr. mark, make this real! if this one gets implemented, i will marry your OS!:)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from marquinos</title>
  <description><![CDATA[If Gnome (or Ubuntu) not implemented this theme, Apple or Windows will do it :(<br />Do you like the first? or a normal OS?<br />My vote to this theme!!!!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from marquinos</title>
  <description><![CDATA[It must be the default theme! :)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from aquasov</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The mockup looks really nice, especially talking in the context of looking at these dark windows not longer than 5 minutes long. At the same time you shouldn't forget that the most of users will definitely break their eyes looking at these dark windows during a whole day.<br /><br />I really think that having BG_COLOR and BASE_COLOR dark will have negative effect on the usability.<br /><br />I've just submitted my own theme having a little different approach to colors:<br /><br />http://aquasov.deviantart.com/art/Murribex-95324248<br /><br />I would be glad to know your opinion on this one...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from pche</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I agree with marquinos.<br />This is really great.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cypris</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This is probably one of the best looking skins I've seen out there, no lie!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from bbx</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Awesome.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Jiimmy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[:D can't wait to use this theme, keep up ur good work ;) willwill, voted up ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Bristow</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Wonderful +1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nicolascollart</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Great ideas there.<br />I'm not a big fan of dark themes (my favorite theme currently is Murrine-Colors, check on GNOME-Look for it, stunning theme) but this one looks really nice.<br />It's really time Ubuntu gets a better looking theme and general feel. In the main distros, Ubuntu is the most ugly and outdated. So we need something nice and we need it fast!<br />Hope to see something like that integrated into Intrepid...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Pasto</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I'm against the subliminal message: "linux users should just stare at the wall"<br /><br />-1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from deejross</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I'm not a big fan of dark themes either, but I think it's time we have a modern looking desktop and one that could be envied by Mac and Vista users. I think this is an awesome step in the right direction<br /><br />+1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from arbulus</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1!<br /><br />The Wall-light theme is probably one of the most beautiful themes I've ever seen.  I know it's just a mock up, but if someone could make this a working theme, then I think that it should absolutely be the default theme for Intrepid.  We NEED a modern and attractive desktop theme right out of the box.  I know people always say "who cares about the default theme, you can change it" but that's not the right mindset to have.  We need a default theme, out of the box, that blows people away because the default theme is the distro's first impression, it's the first thing that people see.  And if they see an ugly interface, a large number of people are going to be turned off.  ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from prafuitu</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I'm a WinXP user, but I must say... That is an awesome theme! <br /><br />I'd like to see that implemented and I would definetly give Ubuntu one more try if they'd put something like that as default, especially now, that I'm no longer tied to Windows by any apps!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from crank</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1<br /><br />I'm going crazy about this theme :))) Awesome look.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nitrofurano</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I confess recently i were mostly amazed with the colour scheming features provided by gnome-color-chooser, than with a specific theme itself.<br /><br />Since Irix times i were enthusiastic of how colour harmonies makes their impact on an user interface - and finally we can get this on Gnome around 15 years later...<br /><br />As far, i were converting and posting .gnomecc colour schemes on sites like gnome-look.org:<br /><br />http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra+pack+-+220+color+schemes?content=84941<br />http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=166&PHPSESSID=41e130d59d6c6afd0edbeac969292ccd<br /><br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from DPic</title>
  <description><![CDATA[We've all seen beautiful themes, but they never get anywhere. I'd really love to see this. Is there some way that we can take a look at the process for including a theme in Ubuntu and make it easier for better themes to be created? It just seems like we're not doing something right...]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from opu.e</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Just want to give a link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from siafulinux</title>
  <description><![CDATA[After hearing about this theme on the Linux Action Show, it inspired me to look for something that was already working and somewhat similar.<br /><br />Keep in mind this is not meant to be an exact replica of the http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intrepid_Ibex_Mockup_Designs mockup, but I have had some really good responses from people with it lately.<br /><br />I use the background from:  http://www.mighty-mighty.com/wood-texture-background.jpg<br /><br />And the theme is Linsta Orange Black Plastic I found at: http://www.stchman.com/themes.html<br /><br />I am very much liking the darker themes though and think this is what Ubuntu should look like.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from dael99</title>
  <description><![CDATA[maybe the transparent effect could be achieved with<br /><br />Metacity compositing (available from hardy, but inactive)<br /><br />that will not cut the users who cant't activate compiz... like me.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Xochipilli</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1<br /><br />And copying ideas from other operating systems is NOT a sin. If the copy is better than the previous idea used we go forward.<br />It's off course better to have a totally new and innovating look, but if no one can come up with a new good idea, the next best thing is to copy other ideas. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from matthewcop11</title>
  <description><![CDATA[!!!!!! ive tried ubuntu i think the default is ssssssssssssoooooo ugly if ubuntu picks this theme i will switch to ubuntu in a second LOVE IT!!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from zzanzare</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please Please Please, make this at least a complete theme.. I don't mind if it is the default in Ibex, or in the next or whatever, but I want to have the option to actually use it.. <br /><br />Is there someone, who can create a complete theme from this mockup? Please do.. You will suddenly have loads of fans, promise;-)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from eoff</title>
  <description><![CDATA[-1<br />too dark, the yellow is "too shiny" in such dark theme,  and panels are too flat. Look at this imahe - this is nice (especialy top panel with gradient color, not just flat)!:<br /><br />http://www.silverwingsonline.com/ubuntu1.jpg]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Indy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1<br /><br />It looks very beautiful. I really hope it is the default theme for the Ubuntu next release.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from MWL</title>
  <description><![CDATA[this is the beast OS design what i ever see! +1]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from CairoTanni</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I like the WillWill theme if it is completed, then I am totally for a package in the ubuntu repos, but only for the gdm theme, and I would say loose the metacity and gtk themes on DeviantArt now (they're, presently, horrid).  If they come closer to the mockups, then I am all for it (except the metacity theme).]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nosoupforyou</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1 for willwill's theme but the yellow menus seem a little too bright and the wood wallpaper would of course be replaced with the wallpaper for that distribution (hopefully jaunty jackalope or at least karmic koala)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from edhard</title>
  <description><![CDATA[<a href=http://www.45.com>a</a><br />[url=http://www.78.com/]b[/url] <br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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