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Idea #1159: Independant 3rd Party Repositoies

Written by yman the 29 Feb 08 at 09:14. Category: Others. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
Rationale
I'd like to brows the Web and see a piece of software I like, click on a link, and just like that have it installed. If it's commercial software, I'd like to be able to use this to purchase it just like that.

The upsides:
Easy installation of 3rd party software, from 3rd party repositories.
Easy payment for commercial software.
Encouragement for commercial entities to develop software for Ubuntu.
No centralized control and deals, allowing for independent and spontaneous development of a market.
New source of revenue for Canonical.

Note: My idea is not mature and is only meant as an indicator for the general direction I think Canonical should take regarding 3rd party and commercial repositories.

This is the URL of the idea on the Ubuntu forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4136302#post4136302
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Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #1159
Written by yman the 29 Feb 08 at 09:14.
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Remmy wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:15
This is already implemented. There is currently only one application available commercially however.

Greyor wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:17
I don't really want to encourage commercial, closed-source software on Ubuntu, and I doubt many others do.

regebro wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:23
Ubuntu can not reasonably hook into one commercial payment system, so the idea of integrating payment is not a good one.

All the rest of your idea is already implemented. Hence, you can pay on the web and just click on a link and get it installed.

yman wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:26
@Remmy:
It is NOT implemented. Instead, there is a commercial repository by Canonical. I'm talking about decentralizing control over software repositories, by making it easy to install software from 3rd party repositories using a combination of Web interface with something like GDebi, only that specializes with installs from 3rd parties.

@Greyor:
Some og us absolutely NEED certain software. Why should I dual-boot Vista just to use Photoshop, which I need for school (GIMP isn't good enough). Or what about gamers, who wan't to play a more up to date 3D RTS game than Warzone2100, but also of better quality than Glest? there are no really good RTS games for Linux that I met (Globulation would be good, if it had even a half-decent AI). I could go on and on, but for short, you just seem to me to be a bit paranoid, or over-idealistic.

yman wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:28
@regebro:
Please point me to reference for further information, because as far as I know, it doesn't work that way at all.

Remmy wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:31
Photoshop is a WINDOWS and MAC application. You are talking about selling non-linux software via Linux. The idea is ludicrous.

yman wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 09:35
@Remmy:
No. I'm talking about creating a marketplace where people can expect to be able to sell software, so that they then would have an incentive to port it or write it for Ubuntu. If that succeeds, you might very well have Photoshop ported, or at least go the Google Picassa way. At least that is what I hope.

yman wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 06:32
This idea is NOT a duplicate of idea #69.

To quote myself (I didn't write this here before because it is redundant. it already appears in the forum thread I linked to):
"My idea is specifically meant to expand on the apt:// protocol to support 3rd party repositories like get-deb, as well as create a decentralized market of 3rd party commercial apps. Therefor, it differs greatly from this idea which is basically asking for more of the same.

My idea is to allow installation of 3rd party apps that update from their respective 3rd party repositories, without adding the entire repository to sources.list. If that is impractical, then it should offer you the option to install the repository by simply clicking "OK" and entering your password or some such thing.

There would also be a way to pay online in a standard form, using a single online account for ease of use. The software would be tied to the account, so you could use it on multiple computers, download it multiple times, etc, and not need to mess with product keys.

The important thing is that anyone can set up an online store without going through Canonical or having any ties with it what so ever. Also, the same mechanism could be used for other purposes than buying software packages.

Each time you want to get an update for commercial software, you'd have to provide your user name and password."

(I slightly modified it to clarify it fix some spelling mistakes).


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