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Hide the /usr /etc ... from the user. Just show him his home directory an the mounted media. Keep it _accessible_ but dont show it to the user if he/she doesn't want to see. Experts will know where to find what they need.
It just pops up too often by default or accident.
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droetker wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 10:02
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WHY the heck?!
why keep users more stupid than they are?!
Sorry, but that's old-school GNOME thinking.
You have your personal files, why shouldn't you have access tothe system iw you want?
Why always hiding things?
It makes live just more complicated...
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pHr34kY wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 10:12
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Sorry, but the FIRST thing I do after installing windows is make it display hidden/system files. I hate things being hidden.
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Ssdg wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 10:45
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Same comment, root directory do not need to be hidden, plus, especially using unixes (Linux, BSD, Solaris, macosx...) the user program has to read thoses programs, but the user himself do not need to get out of his directory, and if he does so, why bothering his exploration why hidden stuff.
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droetker wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 10:47
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hidden files e.g. the .foobar in Linux are ok, to keep your view clear.
But "hiding" some parts of your OS from you?
grrrrrpmf.
self.calm_down()
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davidd wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 11:07
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Ssdg: "Same comment, root directory do not need to be hidden, plus, especially using unixes (Linux, BSD, Solaris, macosx...) the user program has to read thoses programs, but the user himself do not need to get out of his directory, and if he does so, why bothering his exploration why hidden stuff."
If he gets out of the home dir he is lost! You know where to find your Music from the root dir but joe user who came from windows doesnt.
Keep it _accessible_ but dont show it to the user if he/she doesn't want to see.
It just pops up too often by default or accident.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 16:25
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I think Apple does something like this in Mac OS X?
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cheesehead wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 23:30
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Unpopular idea.
But a very good one for non-geeks who *don't* want to look under the hood. All the people we actually want to attract to fight Bug #1.
It's still available to geeks, just unhide it.
But my grandma does not want to see all the /var/log and /etc and /usr stuff that I dig - she wants her e-mail and her porn and the illusion that her system is simple and secure. Man, just let her have that.
+1
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Auzy wrote on the 18 Jul 08 at 01:44
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Apple does do this, and despite what people think, its good they do (you can still access them easily enough).
It only works for them because their gui libs are all in nice directories.
I think the best way of handling this would be to Extend the XDG standard, because at least then it would be more evident what they shouldn't touch (at the moment our directories are still named like we have a 8letter restriction on directory name). They should be named properly so people don't need to open a manual to understand what the directories are.
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davidd wrote on the 18 Jul 08 at 06:36
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When voting down could you please post a comment?
I know its not geeky and and not linuxy and not whatever. Still i think it would be right for a pure desktop.
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ilektron wrote on the 18 Jul 08 at 07:24
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I'll admit, my reasoning is partially due to my stereotypical nerd need to feel smart, but I think that I hate the idea of the operating system dumbing something down for me much more that a grandma dislikes being able to see under the hood and have a hide everything BUT her porn. I had to vote this one down because as much as I want to see ubuntu as ubiquitous as the ipod, I want to see ubuntu maintain its appeal to me.
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ilektron wrote on the 18 Jul 08 at 07:28
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Sorry, the small box makes me miss things.
>much more that a grandma
*much more than a grandma*
>hood and have a hide everything BUT her porn.
*hood and have it (meaning the OS) hide everything....*
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davidd wrote on the 18 Jul 08 at 19:07
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I think making hiding possible (via the dot files) suggest that there is content that doesn't need to be displayed by default. .mozilla, .purple are hidden too. It's not "ungeeky" to hide them.
You, the apps and our geek friends know that they are there. If the learn how to use them they learn where they are too.
An ipod disables access to it. Hiding them would just mean getting them out of the newbies way (and of mine because i never need to access /usr on my desktop via nautilus. and if i'tt just type /usr)
I think if dot files did not exist and the title of this idea would be "hide user config files in home dir" it would get voted down as well. Because hiding is so unprofessional. It takes freedom away and it killed jfk.
I think for linux to be more newbie friendly and act more like a desktop some steps like this would be needed.
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nintendoduffin wrote on the 20 Jul 08 at 14:14
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No, no, no, a thousand times no.
If I wanted my computer to treat me like an idiot, I'd install Windows.
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Ssdg wrote on the 21 Jul 08 at 09:33
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For those who think the user will be lost once gone in the / or /home directory, may I remember that with nautilus he can go home ANYTIME thanks to the "home" [or whatever it is in english] button just on top of the navigation bar?
I thought someone who use a keyboard can read. maybe I'm overestimating the average user.
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ilektron wrote on the 27 Jul 08 at 05:19
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Ssdg wrote on the 21 Jul 08 at 09:33
> I thought someone who use a keyboard can read. maybe I'm overestimating the average user.
That is the root cause of Bug #1
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