Idea
#1113: Use Red Hat Liberation Fonts (They Are Amazingly High Quality)
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Written by maynoth the 29 Feb 08 at 08:25.
Category: Look and Feel.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
I recently switched to linux mint, I must say it is very nice and based on gutsy 7.10.
They use the red hat liberation fonts by default and OMG It looks amazing.
The default ubuntu fonts are painful to look at once you know how good it can look.
https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/
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maynoth wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 08:30
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why on earth is this negative? have you SEEN HOW GOOD THESE FONTS LOOK... I CAN NEVER GO BACK NOW.
They are FOSS.... and they look great...
am I missing something?
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Greyor wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 08:36
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If you want to download them and use them, that's fine, but I wouldn't make *Red Hat* fonts default for Ubuntu. Isn't that a little counterproductive?
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maynoth wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 08:42
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well, um... NO
open source is about sharing code.
Don't FOSS borrow code as much as possible.
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e_asphyx wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 11:13
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I'm using updated Liberation fonts from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=427791 on all desktops. It looks great! Much better then DejaVu. My recommendation is to include these fonts in Ubuntu and make it default for "Sans", "Serif" and "Monospace" aliases.
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azrael wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 12:22
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DejaVu fonts are much better, and they have hinting.
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Omaha wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 12:41
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I use Liberation mostly and some DejaVu in addition. The important thing for me is that there is consistency in fonts and size throughout applications and system.
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miscz wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 13:21
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Does Liberation have hinting? At the time they were released it wasn't finished and it's a major problem. If they had this they could be installed by default as a replacement for Windows core fonts used for web (mstcorefonts) as this was their main purpose.
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tumolsky wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 14:55
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Me, and all my friend use liberation fonts. For cyrrilic desktops they don't have alternatives.
I want liberation fonts including in my system by default.
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Little Dragon wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 17:18
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Greyor wrote: Isn't that a little counterproductive?
With my all respect!
Why should someone "rediscover"/recreate something what exists and it is good or better?
I think Linux developers should combine their efforts and not saying "Oh it is not mine, I should redevelop something same but it is mine." it is wasting of time.
If the fonts from RedHat looks better than use it to give better experience to the users. And use the time remaining from new font development to improve existing components or develop some new.
Of course if someone likes to develop fonts instead of other things do it. If they become better than RedHat's then use them.
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maynoth wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 17:43
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I've got some other really good idea's I would love some help on. Like an ubuntu credit card which gave the fees to canonical to help with development costs, kind of like linux fund. if your bored please help upvote them if you like them.
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e_asphyx wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 18:20
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Exactly, Little Dragon!
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gaspard.leon wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 00:42
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wow, they hinted them!! great for a smaller font...
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sportman1280 wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 01:11
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i like the 1.0.1 version font. the 0.2 that was orginally posted arent what should be considered.
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Estesark wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 02:43
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The DejaVu fonts are good enough, I think, but if the proposed fonts are free, open source, and of good quality, then I'd be in favour of including them as an alternative. At the moment, I can't find any other fonts available as a good-quality alternative to DejaVu.
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jonathan324 wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 11:27
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One of the best ideas I've found here. I think it would be a great improvement to the look and feel of Ubuntu.
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 RainCT (Ubuntu Developer) wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 12:45
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I just want to note that the Liberation fonts are now available as a drop-in replacement for mstcorefonts (the package is called 'ttf-liberation').
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RainCT (Ubuntu Developer) wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 12:45
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(My last comment refers to Hardy, of course.)
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mikelima wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 11:38
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Dejavu are much nicer, in my opinion. And they more scripts. So, I'm not against liberation inclusion, but DejaVu are the best bet as the default font set.
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Pekkalainen wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 14:44
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These fonts are horrible on my 24" Dell monitor. Until this is changed my vote is negative.
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maynoth wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 15:44
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try mint linux livecd, looks awesome on my 22"
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mohbana wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 14:51
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I just install mscorefonts, everything is fine after that.
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maynoth wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 15:00
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yes I think the redhat fonts look even better than mscorefonts. I always installed them after I got Ubuntu running. Mint looks better out of box than ubuntu does after you install everything.
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verwilst wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 15:05
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Hm i must say in Hardy, i like the default Sans and Monospace fonts better than the Liberation fonts..
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rumli wrote on the 18 Mar 08 at 23:16
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I agree with mikelima. DejaVu are much more readable. Although, for Serif, I prefer Norasi to all others.
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Jan-Nik wrote on the 29 Mar 08 at 17:51
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Foresight Linux 2 does also use Liberation Sans as the default font for the GUI.
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futwick wrote on the 25 May 08 at 22:45
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These look much cleaner than msttcorefonts, wish I'd heard about them sooner.
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ofir_k wrote on the 25 May 08 at 23:44
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Those fonts include non-English languages?
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Jan-Nik wrote on the 1 Jun 08 at 12:02
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@ofir_k
yeah, of course.
Even if a character is missing, text output will fall back to another font for that character.
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