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Auzy
wrote on the 9 Jul 08 at 14:18
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A laptop wont do Hans Reiser any good. Mainly because I doubt they place power jacks in prison cells (suicide risk). And a laptop would make it easy to break out (so many parts to take advantage of).
What Hans really needs is someone to buy Namesys off him to ensure his work lives on. Because if we send him a laptop, it will be used only to help pay off his court costs. Buying Namesys off Hans would be the best thing you can do for him now.
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Reiser killed his wife. He then proceeded to bury the body, plead his innocence through the trial, and when the verdict came, he very quickly flopped to try to create a situation that was more beneficial to him.
Is the filesystem good? Sure, it is. But Reiser is not the only person in the world that can work on it. He doesn't deserve to perform any more work on the filesystem; it's not his right to participate in society any further. He severed himself from that privilege when he relinquished his rights by committing murder against his wife. I feel sorry for his children, who have had to suffer the loss of their mother at their father's hand. It's not right.
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Reiser can rot in his prison cell.
If the bits of his filesystem rot with him because nobody picks up where he left off, then so be it.
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neon
wrote on the 9 Jul 08 at 16:41
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The bastard killed his wife. HELL NO I'M NOT GIVING HIM A LAPTOP.
Plenty of other people can work on the filesystem too, God...
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mtrausch,
Whatever, it was just one kill. Big deal. Others have killed way more. George W Bush is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of people.
Also if he commit a crime, he should be locked up so he is no harm to society. But he should still be allowed participate and contribute to society so that he can become a good and productive citizen.
Plus, she deserved it. She cheated with Sean Sturgeon, embezzled money from his company, and was an irresponsible mother who abused illegal substances such as ecstasy.
Let this be a lesson to all; avoid post-order mail brides.
chipbennett,
It is much better to let him be a productive citizen of society that contributes to society, than have him locked up and do nothing, just waste tax money.
neon,
It is not like he killed Gandhi, he just killed his wife.
Perhaps other people can work on it too, but Hans is the genius who designed it, he can make bring the best to it.
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ya correct,ur no gandhi let someone kill Eldmannen,ur worst crack i have ever seen.this shows how foolish you can be towards humanity.does end of Hans mean end of Filesystem development to you?.
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Whatever, like if none you never did anything wrong.
Yes, the end of Hans, could mean the end of the Reiser4 file system, which could very well be the most technologically advanced and sophisticated file system in existence.
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Pasto
wrote on the 9 Jul 08 at 18:14
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"This is a very unfortunate tragedy - not that his wife is dead, but that now perhaps he wont be able to develop Reiser4, the amazing file system."
Horrible sentence. Placing technology/religion/whatever above mankind is the main cause of most (if not all) human atrocities.
And last but not least, taking advantage of the horrible situation is unethical.
Definitely -1, and I hope this idea was a joke.
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Not having Hans on the reiser4 dev team would be like not having Linus on the Kernel team. Unfortunately Hans committed a crime and he is now suffering the consequences and there is nothing we can do about it.
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neon
wrote on the 9 Jul 08 at 19:16
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Good God Eldmannen. Only killed his wife?
I feel sorry for the person you marry, if killing your spouse is no big deal.
I swear, what the world has come to is utterly depressing.
Only one kill...God...
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Some of the comments here, by the original poster and others, are simply beyond the pale and are not worthy of dignified response.
Seriously, is there any way to report an idea such as this one as abusive/offensive?
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I really, really feel sorry for you Eldmannen.
By your logic, I should have killed my ex-wife because she cheated on me. Also, just one kill? I bet you'd change your tune if that one kill were someone you loved or cared about. How ignorant can one person be? I've lost all respect for you.
I've got news for you, ReiserFS may be good, but it's definitely not the best. Some situations call for it, some call for XFS, etc. It's not like the man is a god or anything. He took someone else's life and should have to pay for his crimes.
Oh, I've done wrong things, but I've never KILLED anyone or done anything deserving of jailtime. Get off of your high horse and take a good, long look in the mirror. It's only a freaking filesystem. The beauty of the open source world is that there are others who can pick up the development, and oh, they might just be as smart as the killer Reiser.
-1 for this idea.
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Endperform,
She was a irresponsible mother abused illegal substances such as ecstasy, putter her kids at risk and who dated Sean Sturgeon a dangerous serial-killer who have admitted to killing 8 people and leaving a ninth for dead.
* http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2007/05/reiser
I cant imagine the tremendous stress and abuse that poor Hans must have endured. :(
Driving an kind and peaceful man into such an act. :(
"He took someone else's life and should have to pay for his crimes."
The guy is paying for his crime. He is doing time.
But he should be given an laptop so that he can be a productive citizen and contribute to the society.
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Auzy
wrote on the 10 Jul 08 at 01:14
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I personally don't think that killing his wife is right, but we don't know the circumstances.
From what I heard, he was remorseful. And its not as if he spent all night watching The shining, and after waking up, HEEEEERRRRREEESS Hans. He probably just snapped.
Either way, like I said before, I don't think he'd be allowed to use a laptop in jail. The best we can do for him is raise money to buy namesys, and get the company merged with a not-for-profit linux company like debian.
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WOW Linux for human beings sure has come along way.
Eldmannen You got some messed up views, before I thought you were kidding with some of your comments but good Lord.... get off your "the best contributer" high horse, and sit the f*** down.
You may just be getting a good old laugh by starting all this controversy but seriously just stick to constructive criticism(which is obviously hard for you) or just shut up. One last comment on this please leave politics out of Ubuntu, the last thing we need is Elephants vs. Donkeys.
About the actual "idea" I 100% agree with Auzy, buying him a laptop is ill thought out, however much you like his file system. Best we can do now is make an idea to buy the system and then donate or buy from the store.
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Killing his wife, regardless of circumstances (unless she was threatening or attacking him... again, circumstances unknown) isn't right.
@Eldmannen:
Ok, so she obviously wasn't the best of mothers, does that mean she deserved to die? I'm just absolutely amazed that you seem to think Hans is the victim here. I've known people in much worse positions. Do you think they killed their wife/husband? No, they sought out therapy, and if that didn't work then they divorced. No one died.
If he was so stressed out, he could have talked to someone about things, or at the very least, separated and filed for divorce. Instead, he chose to let it build up and he snapped, killing her. How exactly does this make him a victim? Again, though, we don't know the whole, full story surrounding this, but murdering your wife because she's not a good person is no excuse and does not make "poor" Hans the victim.
Giving him a laptop is not going to contribute much. As I said, he'd have no outside contact with the world on it, and all of the code would remain on the laptop until he's released from prison (if that even happens).
As I, and Auzy, have mentioned, he'd never see the laptop. I'm 99% sure they aren't allowed in the jail, and even if they were, we'd never see his code released because they'd never let the convicts connect to the outside world with them.
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Diggs808
wrote on the 10 Jul 08 at 07:23
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Eldmannen,
Nothing and I mean NOTHING justifies murder. Ever. I just hope that I don't live anywhere near you since it seems that in your world its okay to murder someone as long as they do something despicable. News flash People do despicable things all the time, and yet murder is still not justified. The only time, in fact, that murder is justified is if it is self-defense (and even then its a difficult thing to prove). This was clearly not self defense, but pre-mediated murder.
He was convicted of first degree murder by a jury:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/04/reiser-guilty-o.html#previouspost
He led the police to her body, not for the sake of her family or their children, but to save his own rear end:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/hans-reiser-bri.html#previouspost
"Poor Hans" wants a reduced sentence....so he tells them where her body is.
I agree with what the previous posters said. He would never get to release the code simply because he would be allowed very limited access to the outside world. That is why they call it prison, because society has judged you to be too dangerous to be a part of society. I am sure that he will have more pressing issues in prison other than coding.
If the file system is so good, then I would suggest that you raise the funds and buy the company from him. He will have to sell it soon enough, I imagine that the bill for his lawyer is getting pretty hefty. Any support people had for him in the Linux community is probably drying up too.
-1, because my head is about to explode
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andruk
(Idea reviewer)
wrote on the 10 Jul 08 at 08:44
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Wtf Eldmannen? I usually respect and agree with your opinions, even when you're being a jerk, and usually when you're being a jerk to me, but you are far off here.
The man killed his wife. Directly. He strangled her. The man killed somebody. Your comparison with Bush is inconsequential, because it does not matter how many people you kill, every single one is just as wrong.
That being said, I even like the guy, still, after he basically confesses. But giving him a laptop...no.
Eldmannen, this was a poorly thought out idea. We've all had them, and we've all been ridiculed (by you and others) for them. Get over it (the verdict ans subsequent events) and start giving us good ideas again.
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nand
(Brainstorm admin)
wrote on the 10 Jul 08 at 12:27
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This "idea" being offensive and going out of control, I'm deleting it.
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