Idea
#106: Easy and powerfull Remote-Deskop
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This idea was marked as already implemented the 2 June 08.
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Written by solarstorm the 28 Feb 08 at 17:42.
Category: Internet & Networking.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: Already implemented
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Description
It would be great if Ubuntu (or other distributions as well) provide an easy to use remote desktop solution. While it's quite easy to connect to a remote X-Server (x over ssh or nx), it's rather hard to get also support for sound (from the remote desktop), printing (using your local printers on the remote desktop) and other things like "tray-icons" / "notification area" (have the Notification-Icons of remote applications in the local "notification area").
Update:
"x2go" looks pretty interesting: http://x2go.berlios.de/index-en.html
It uses the NX libs and they also provide a client for Windows. But I have not tested it (yet).
Developer comments
Ubuntu Desktop comes with a VNC server (vino) by default. There is also a vnc client (vinagre) which is available to connect to remote vnc servers. rdesktop is available to connect to remote windows machines via RDP.
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Ubuwu wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 18:19
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I would like to add "secure" to easy and powerful.
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solarstorm wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 20:32
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Sorry, I just saw, that I misspelled the title. Maybe an admin could correct that. ;)
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lifeless85 wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 00:49
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i don't think this should be an priority nowadays users get routers whit integrated modem from discount, but he/she does't know what "nat" is and what that mean and the basic operation to make his/her pc viewable on network, maybe when upnp will be more secure distributed configurated or to a new version that wold be nice and usefull, but for now spend time and energy to a thing that on 90% of time will not work whitout the intervention of someone "who knows how to do" is a waste of time.
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dburanen wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 02:56
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Currently, I use nomachine.com's nxserver and nxclient. It's cross platform and allows you to login to a currently running session (shadow) or create a new one. It's slick, but not free free.
I blogged about it awhile back:
http://buranen.info/?p=199
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jamessnell wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 02:58
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Remote sound seems a little silly to me, but perhaps there's an excellent use case.
This sounds to me like VNC and perhaps sound output redirected to a streaming mp3 service.
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Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 04:55
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Part of this has been taken care of with Hardy.
It includes a graphical tool (by default) to login to another computer.
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derick.eisenhardt wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 06:30
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Windows' remote desktop AKA terminal services, is very different and much more complex than VNC though. Because the majority of the rendering takes place on the local machine it is much much faster (although I assume "remote X" is similar). Also the ability to easily connect local printers and drives as shared versions on the remote machine is also extremely useful.
I think the core of this idea is not that it is currently impossible to do this under Ubuntu, but that it's no where even close to being as simple/easy as it is in Windows. Perhaps something like the Linux Terminal Server Project (ltsp.org) could help accomplish this?
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aa.ivanov wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 10:28
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Personally I'm very impressed with the NX. Much more than with vnc. yes, it's a commercial project, but as far as I remember the they have released the info about their 'advanced compression scheme'. The rest is ssh, X, management bells and whistles. I think there was an effort to create a FLOSS only implementation - freenx. Don't know what's the current status there.
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nyvalbanat wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 14:49
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nx is awesome, but to properly collaborate in a corporate environment you should be able to internetwork with peers (most of whom run windows). This means they should have an easy way to connect to your Linux desktop (the reverse is already implemented by rdesktop). While nx has a windows client, no one I know would install it. Also VNC is too slow for my fancy desktop effects. We need a fast browser or remote desktop compatible way to show a linux desktop. I know this may be too much to ask, but it's an annoyance...
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pturing wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 15:22
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FreeNX I think is the way to go on this. NX is secure, and much faster than vnc, etc.
It also supports things like sound, printing, etc. which windoze and mac have but vnc lacks.
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aftermodern wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 16:28
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I would need to download files from the web to my desktop by using rdesktop. Now it is impossible, I have to send it by e-mail to me...
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rawsausage wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 22:42
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I seriously can not understand why people want to install NX when their computers already have X11, SSH, nasd/pulseaudio/esd (for audio) and SCP (for disk device connectivity) installed. All that is required is proper GUI for using them properly.
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adelie wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 23:14
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SSH using the -Y or -X argument provides a fabulous link to X11 applications without the unnecessary overhead of managing an entire desktop and being a totally separate thing from remote assistant or vnc.
On an aside, it is nice to see so many people requesting things that already exist... at least in the sense that these "problems" already have simple solutions, rather than 'there is a big issue with linux can't do xyz yet'.
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jhol wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 02:46
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The current VNC connection has the problem that if there are two users (two X servers, as I do), both cannot access the desktop simultaneously (at the same time).
ssh -X is not enough, sometimes I would like to check mail and as my desktop is up and running all the time attaching to it would be much more convenient than killing thunderbird and starting it remotely.
Windows RDP works much better than remote X, btw.
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gespertino wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 04:51
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Aren't Vino and Vinagre being worked for this?
This is what you call an idea for a brainstorm? "easy and powerful remote desktop"?
What's next? "please, please, make Ubuntu perfect"?
Sorry if I'm harsh, but I'm browsing "ideas" and most of them are personal desires or feature requests.
I thought the point was to bring new ideas to improve Ubuntu. Something that developers may see and say "Hey, this is a good idea! It's new, it's fresh and no package does that. I'll code it".
Please take a look at the latest version new features before asking.
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solarstorm wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 18:09
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> "Aren't Vino and Vinagre being worked for this?"
AFAIK there is no plan for sound, printing or other features like mapping of drives or hardware from the client to the "server". Have you ever tried to read a pdf with vnc over a small ADSL connection?
Remote x works great, but it is by design only the graphical output. Of course you can use IPP (with cups) for printing or PulseAudio for sound via ssh, but than you also need it on the client. But I think IPP could be used on Windows and Mac OS too, just btw.
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Calabacin wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 16:44
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Remote desktop client is a default application in Ubuntu. I've been using it for a long time, and except for a couple of issues, it works quite well.
Maybe you are talking about something else and not RDP? Perhaps VNC? I thought VNC worked fine, but I'll have a look.
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technosaurus wrote on the 31 May 08 at 02:26
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you can remote login using xdmcp and get sound with artsd
here's a link telling how
http://birijan.com.np/?q=node/81
haven't gotten local usb devices working yet (other than kb and mouse)
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steve196 wrote on the 31 May 08 at 07:48
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I thought, Ubuntu comes without any server apps that are accessible from the outside by default. In fact this was the big reason for me to choose Ubuntu over other distros. So is this no longer true?
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avb wrote on the 4 Jul 08 at 18:18
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Steve196, you are partially right. Ubuntu comes with the server preinstalled, BUT IT IS NOT ENABLED BY DEFAULT.
You can check it quite easily: open up "System/Settings/Remote Desktop". Sharing is turned of by default, so no one can reach your computer, until you enable it.
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solarstorm wrote on the 17 Jul 08 at 10:59
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Developer comments:
> Ubuntu Desktop comes with a VNC server (vino) by default.
> There is also a vnc client (vinagre) which is available to
> connect to remote vnc servers. rdesktop is available to
> connect to remote windows machines via RDP.
But the VNC server doesn't provide features like sound or file access. The RDP protocol has these capabilities, but there is AFAIK no RDP server for linux that implements all these features. So it's not "already done", sorry.
"x2go" looks pretty interesting: http://x2go.berlios.de/index-en.html
It uses the NX libs and they also provide a client for Windows. But I have not tested it (yet).
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