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Idea
#10535: Develop a competitor to Flash/Silverlight
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Written by Thelasko the 30 Jun 08 at 21:10.
Category: Internet & Networking.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
For years Flash was the only way to embed multimedia in a website. Microsoft is now trying to enter the market with Silverlight. The Open Source Community should do the same. An open standard needs to be developed for embedding multimedia into websites, so both content providers and users aren't locked into one vendor.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 30 Jun 08 at 21:25
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Yeah, it would be with a free open format for that.
But Adobe and Microsoft got all the industry backing...
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maxfridbe wrote on the 30 Jun 08 at 21:31
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I think that they should instead integrate the mono projects implementation of Silverlight: Moonlight
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Ssdg wrote on the 30 Jun 08 at 22:10
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It has names: XUL, SVG an Javascript (and maybe a few more)
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Auzy wrote on the 1 Jul 08 at 05:18
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Flash by technical standards is out of date. Like SSDG says, what we need is a flash-like design program, that generates a HTML file out of:
- SVG (for graphics)
- Javascript (as mentioned) for operations & playing sound at the correct times.
- PHP server side files & AJAX style client side Javascript for realtime server interaction (saving high scores, saving games, chat, etc)
Advantages over Flash/silverlight/java?
- No plugins needed. Any standards compliant browser will support the file.
- Automatically universal. Every OS will automatically support it.
- Is as secure as the browser is (at the very least, it will expose bugs in browsers).
- Unlike flash, runs within the limits of the browser. Flash does silly stuff like allowing its own cookies that are outside the users control (so flash can be used to track users for instance).
- Can still use Greasemonkey and other such programs to disable stupid ads which annoy the hell out of the user (like those f'ing smilies)
- The editor could even be implemented as a web application, so users do not need to install a development tool.
Disadvantages
- Running HTML equivilent files instead of flash may be a bit slower (however, browsers are rapidly becoming faster and faster, so maybe soon, if they haven't already browsers will be capable of running same speed).
- I don't think the current version of HTML supports movie playback. But I know the next one is adding multimedia capabilities that will address that shortcoming.
Knowledge required:
Skill required: Probably not a ginormous amount.. But moderate
- web programming/PHP/Web Standards
- The editor could also be coded in javascript, and employ PHP for project storage. This way even the editor is totally cross platform. And it would be a good technology demonstration, drawing more developers to open source browser development (which is great for us, as the future will be online applications).
If there is enough enthusiasm to code such a project, I would be willing to help program.. This should definitely be taken up by someone though.
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 droetker (Moderator) wrote on the 1 Jul 08 at 06:50
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I think Linux has better things to do than implement it's own standards when there are standards that are not bad, anc supported.
Better make gnash better, or moonlight, yes.
Fragmentation is not good.
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Auzy wrote on the 1 Jul 08 at 06:55
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Did you read my comment Droetker, thats what I'm suggesting, and it uses open standards which are already widely deployed
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Auzy wrote on the 1 Jul 08 at 06:56
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Btw, and unlike gnash, you dont need ANY extra plugins
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krs wrote on the 1 Jul 08 at 07:53
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Auzy > your are right. I think you can post a new idea.
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ImperfectLink wrote on the 1 Jul 08 at 23:30
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Actually I think that would serve well to alienate formats rather than gain. There are 2 good alternatives out there and we should support as best we can.
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Thelasko wrote on the 1 Aug 08 at 19:40
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"There are 2 good alternatives out there and we should support as best we can. "
Are they really good? Is it up to us to support?
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droetker (Moderator) wrote on the 1 Aug 08 at 20:30
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@Auzy: my comment was not for you, it was for the idea/Thelasko...
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