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Since there may be several file systems mounted at the same time, the name of the volume is confusing.
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Auzy wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 06:58
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I think I agree it does need renaming.. Another suggestion is "system storage" (Some people may not understand the meaning of volume when used in the context of computers).
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Auzy wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 06:58
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I think I agree it does need renaming.. Another suggestion is "system storage" (Some people may not understand the meaning of volume when used in the context of computers).
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Ssdg wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 07:21
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what about "System root directory"? (root directory is the real name of "/" as soon as you read technical documentation, and everybody know what a root is)
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Hiéroglyphe wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 07:28
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Agree with Auzy.
I'm french and "Volume" makes me think of "sound".
Why not a simple "Hard Drive" instead ?
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Ati500 wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 08:02
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I think you misunderstood how the Linux kernel organizes files.
The "File System" links to the root directory or "/". It contains _every_ file of your system, not just the ones stored on your system volume. In other words, it gives you a full perspective of everything that is accessible on your computer.
For example, click on "File System", then media/cdrom. See? Those files aren't stored on the "system volume" or "hard drive", but on the CD/DVD.
It should be called "File System", because that's its name everywhere in the Linux world.
For more details let's have a look at this Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
Or check out this article:
http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/
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Nxx wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 09:54
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Or "system drive", I think this would be appropriate.
>The "File System" links to the root directory or "/". It contains _every_ file of your system, not just the ones stored on your system volume.
This is not exactly true. Other volumes simply mounted to some mount points. You can for example mount them to a second hard drive, not to /media folder. You simply can mount any disk to any folder.
This works like hard links in NTFS (where you also can mount CD-ROM for example to a folder named "my disks"). But the system volume in Windows still named "Disk C", not "File system".
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Eldmannen wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 10:51
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Makes sense to me.
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Vadim P. wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 13:22
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+1, but I don't agree with the "system root directory". System volume sounds equally confusing as File System, but at least it distinguishes the fact that you can have several File Systems on.
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nevermind85 wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 13:48
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While I agree it could be changed to something more meaningful, I haven't seen any ideas yet that I like (nor I can think of anything yet), so +0 for now...
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Craig73 wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 19:16
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I'm not sure it needs to change.
I was thinking about something like "System Files"... Not much different, not technically accurate, but perhaps clearer from the perspective that you have two groups
1) Regular users - Why would they go in here? Sure media/cdrom is under there - but they are going to click on the CDROM icon. In fact most things they need to get to regularily are right there in friendly terms. Even the logs are under a nice user interface.
2) Technical users - They understand it, even if it isn't technically accurate... and more likely to have 12 volumes linked this way and that.
I might suggest it might be better to have a general user view and hide it ... but then I will be flamed for being a 'windows lover'
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Nxx wrote on the 26 Jun 08 at 03:43
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I cannot imagine hiding a whole drive from a user. Also you're too optimistic if you think only technical users need access to their main hard drive.
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flammon wrote on the 26 Jun 08 at 11:36
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"File system" is suppose to mean root file system and I don't think System Volume conveys that message either. How about "Root Filesystem"
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Craig73 wrote on the 26 Jun 08 at 17:16
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@Nxx... fair enough. I've had Linux installed for a few weeks and have not had to browse there except when trying to figure out how to fix my SVideo. I was just thinking about about how the regular destinations (like CD or Documents) have a folder already.
I might choose "Hard Drive" as well. It's not technically accurate as already pointed out but largely what it is. [and thinking of the earlier days of computers where people thought the harddrive was the whole box... that works even better]
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Vadim P. wrote on the 26 Jun 08 at 23:42
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I don't think "root" would make any more sense, especially for when you don't have a separate /home
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boteeka wrote on the 2 Jul 08 at 16:03
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I have to agree with Ati500. In Linux and UNIX there is only one file system. Every other hard disks, CDROM drives, USB mass storage drives or anything else *storage* is in one way or another mounted (attached) to the ONE AND ONLY file system. Whether you have your home folder on another partition or another hard drive, it is still accessible by /home, or if you set it up something else, than /somethingelse, but its absolute path still starts with /, meaning the ONE AND ONLY filesystem.
So, I think File System is a very correct name for THE filesystem. Because it is not Hard Drive (what if I have two or more hard drives, then what hard drive the name refers to?), it is not System Files (not only the system's files are there but yours too), Volume refers to a partition, which is still mounted to THE filesystem (even the volume on which your system resides is mounted to /, / represents something intangible, only logically existing, and then there is mounted the volume on which your system is located; if it wouldn't be mounted / would contain nothing at all - and your system would crash :-) ).
I say let's leave it alone just like it is now.
Or the best of both worlds: make it so that users could rename it if they don't like File System.
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Nxx wrote on the 5 Jul 08 at 17:34
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First of all it is confusing, and second, it's not practical. For example you want to perform search in your main hard drive. Where should you search? In "file system"? But then the search engine will search not only in your main drivew but also in all other drives including removable media.
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Martin von Wittich wrote on the 7 Sep 08 at 11:26
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I find many of the suggested new names much more irritating than just "file system". After all, it _is_ a virtual file system, so there's nothing wrong with the name.
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