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This is a dupe. But I have no energy for finding it...
Maybe later.
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flip
wrote on the 23 Jun 08 at 18:47
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search first, post after.
see ideia #21
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Nobody wants to see the bootloader before they boot the operating system.
They just want it to boot as fast as possible so they can start using the computer.
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The thing where you can check if the topic already exists or not is messed up. Sorry ppl!
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Steeley
wrote on the 23 Jun 08 at 20:56
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"Nobody wants to see the bootloader before they boot the operating system."
That makes absolutely no sense. The bootloader appears before the OS has started in order for you to choose which OS to load...
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Stinger
wrote on the 23 Jun 08 at 21:21
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Besides the 15 duplicates, this has also been on the roadmap for a long time-- "slickboot."
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Steeley,
Not mine. Mine boot Ubuntu straight away, just the way I like it.
I want it fast and reliable. Not slow and unreliable.
I think that making it graphical would just make it slow, bloated and unreliable.
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Well if you only have 1 OS and 1 kernel then the bootloader is useless. Most people have several kernels and many others dual boot, so the boot loader is a must. I agree that it should look better, it would be nice if it had a similar look and feel Ubuntu progress loader (the technical names escapes me) and the GDM/KDM.
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@Arnaudus have u put them in as dupes?
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Auzy
wrote on the 24 Jun 08 at 00:30
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If you vote for grub2, it has a lot more capabilities in the looks department.
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there should be very good transition between bootloader,usplash,gdm and finally the desktop..that gives a more impression for a new person seeing the os for the first time.
Whats happenning right now is bull !@#$ ... either make it full text based and the desktop will be the only graphical thing...so this would make it good looking for people who want speed... or make it streamlined by using consistent graphics and this can have option to show whats happening...And remove the number of hicups that happen during booting..
right now the condition is like this...some text then some graphics then lot of text...then for some time the screen will go black then again some graphics then a glitch ..then brown screen..then panel comes ...then panel goes... then blink ..then some notifications on the wrong side..then that disappears..finally the desktop.. this should be refined because this can scare new comers...
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Arnaudus
wrote on the 24 Jun 08 at 08:27
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@_sebastian_ : Yes I indicated one dupe (I guess its enough to connect all of them) but the duplicate system seems to be a bit sick, because nothing is reported in the "Report duplicate" section --but I can't re-enter the first dupe (21). Strange...
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Craig73
wrote on the 25 Jun 08 at 21:48
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@Amarsingh0793 "Take the Mandriva and OpenSUSE bootloaders..."
I haven't looked at these packages but I assume they OpenSource? Slap the Ubuntu logo and colours on and lets go :-)
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fordplay
wrote on the 26 Jun 08 at 09:10
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Can we please include the release name and number in the boot screen, and login screen?
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The nice part is that after hundreds of duplicated ideas, there's no consideration about the implementation of one of these ideas...
sometimes I wonder if we are talking to something that really can work on the brainstorm ideas...
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@MarcioVinicius : I've read here and there that Brainstorm was a poor idea, and your comment seems to illustrates this point. Many people, including you, are still in the old-fashion proprierary software pattern: a group of developers, payed to improve the software, and thousands of users, who are entitled to require improvements (because they payed for the soft for instance).
However, this is about Ubuntu. Have you ever read anywhere that the aim of Canonical was to implement the ideas that are proposed in Brainstorm? This is a big misunderstanding. Canonical payed to develop Brainstorm and to put it on-line, as they probably thought it would be useful: for them to get new ideas, to define priorities etc., and for the whole community to communicate better about soft improvements and to share ideas. Brainstorm is a communication tool, nothing more. It has never been stated anywhere that the ideas were supposed to be implemented by Canonical. Of course, Canonical can take some ideas to improve Ubuntu, but they can also decide not to care at all about the ideas, to pick only a subset of interesting ones, etc. I admit that Canonical communicated poorly about Brainstorm, but the rest of the community also have to understand what is a free software community: if you want to see something implemented, *JUST DO IT*. If you are not able to do it, then learn how to do it. If you don't feel like learning, perhaps you are not that interested? But the point is that you should never expect someone else to do the job for free: someone else will do the job only if this someone is interested in doing it, not because you are.
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@Arnaudus
I never thought someone had to do the job for free. Neither did I think about Canonical when I wrote that comment (I didn't even know Canonical was so closely related to Ubuntu Brainstorm). I'm not still in the "old-fashion proprietary software pattern", actually I never was.
Well, you can be sure that if I paid for something, I'll bill someone for the improvements. As well I can't bill Canonical, since I never paid for anything related Ubuntu. It isn't a matter of "proprietary software pattern", it is a matter of rights (we can see it on Ubuntu's license).
What I meant to say was: We get almost no feedback from developers on our ideas.
Maybe it would be helpful in order know if what we are discussing is worth. In all those dupes, there are very few (if so) comments from "official" developers, programmers, responsible or even moderators. I don't even think that they should comment, but I think it could help us and them avoid to wast time.
P.S. Although I learnt lot of things since my first Ubuntu, I still can't make my own bootloader (and I must confess I'm pretty satisfied with grub). So I still hope someone can do it for me. Not exactly Canonical, I thought it was a community thing (not an old-fashion software business).
P.S.2. It was just to answer, this isn't the right place for this discussion.
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