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Idea #10007: merge back into Debian and end Ubuntu

bug This idea was marked as being not considered for implementation the 26 July 09.
Written by slashdotaccount the 18 Jun 08 at 18:46. Category: Others. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: Won't implement
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Make hardy the last Ubuntu release ever and from then on work on merging remaining Ubuntu developers, changes, ideas, bugs, users etc back into Debian. Don't work on Ubuntu, just work Debian instead. There was no need to fork in the first place, please fix this. Canonical can make money Debian fine, they don't need a forked distro and forked community to make money.
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Written by slashdotaccount the 18 Jun 08 at 18:46.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 18 Jun 08 at 19:10
People is gonna mod this down crazy, because it is such a very controversial topic.

I think Ubuntu is a bit different though.
Debian have the DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines) which is a good thing, but which is much more strict than Ubuntu.
And Ubuntu has a stronger focus on ease of use and just want to reach as many users as possible.

Hopefully soon Ubuntu can eventually become what Gobuntu strives to be.

Best of luck to Debian, I wish them success and a great future.

gsiliceo wrote on the 18 Jun 08 at 19:22
Could you at least make the idea more complete?
Like writing why did ubuntu forked in the first place and then why it was a bad idea. And how will the devs justify this?
And the willingness of debian to accept ubuntus views.
Dont just rant thoughtless

Primož Papič wrote on the 18 Jun 08 at 20:21
well Debian is nice but why should be merged with Ubuntu?
This idea could be read as merge all of Linux back with Unix if I exaggerate a lot.
But still there are distros that are based on Ubuntu and nobody proposed them to be merged back to Ubuntu.
Sorry but this is just silly.
Also as I understand Debian comes without any DE and I think even without X? Is that correct??
Ubuntu is just user friendly Debian. So -1 from me, sorry.

RussellGee wrote on the 18 Jun 08 at 21:22
Ubuntu and Debian are two totally different projects with totally different aims.

Debian is a more thurerly tested distro which has strict guidelines on software unlike Ubuntu, Debian is also more suited to servers and in situations where stability is the main priority whereas Ubuntu aims to have the latest upstream version of software wherever possible.

For the ordinary desktop user Debian doesn't have great usability which is essential in Ubuntu's for the people that Ubuntu tries to attract.

Also Debian would not want Ubuntu to be merged back.

Sorry but in my opinion this is a very silly idea.

jhoger wrote on the 19 Jun 08 at 01:43
Merged back? Ubuntu is a periodic freeze of Debian Experimental.

Without Debian there is no Ubuntu. The Debian Developers are responsible for 99% of the packaging work that makes Ubuntu possible.

That said, I think Ubuntu should continue. It is mostly branding, polish on top of Debian that is just fine.

Kick some bucks down to the DDs if you get rich though...

tommynz1975 wrote on the 29 Aug 08 at 01:45
If I got it right.. to merge back makes a mockary of the GPL?

to use the guts of the system. kernel and stuff and develop your own version be it for a company and on sell it. or what ever.

jmite_plusplus wrote on the 20 Nov 08 at 00:25
Ubuntu and Debian have different target audiences, different purposes, eliminating one would ostracize at least one of those audiences.


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