Written by readmanr the 6 Mar 10 at 21:00.

Move the buttons back over to the top right for the final Ubuntu 10.04 release.

Move the buttons back over to the top right for the final Ubuntu 10.04 release.

Written by Akerbos the 6 Mar 10 at 21:38.

I think it is most intuitive if the buttons are ordered the same in relation to the window center ("To close, click the outermost button"), so

Right: min-max-close

relates to

Left: close-max-min

I think it is most intuitive if the buttons are ordered the same in relation to the window center ("To close, click the outermost button"), so Right: min-max-close relates to Left: close-max-min

Written by jeffd1830 the 7 Mar 10 at 08:56.

I think having the buttons on both sides would also be a viable option. I understand that this would detract visually from the simplicity, but maybe if the buttons were subdued until the mouse hovers over the bar?

(I feel less than confident about this solution, but thought it needed mentioning.)

I think having the buttons on both sides would also be a viable option. I understand that this would detract visually from the simplicity, but maybe if the buttons were subdued until the mouse hovers over the bar? (I feel less than confident about this solution, but thought it needed mentioning.)

Written by Long Lazuli the 7 Mar 10 at 11:34.

In xubuntu, user cas can choose where are the button on the titlebar.

In xubuntu, user cas can choose where are the button on the titlebar.

Written by la_serpe the 7 Mar 10 at 16:29.

It can be movable so the user could change it intuitively

It can be movable so the user could change it intuitively

Written by Vlad_Alfredov the 8 Mar 10 at 11:13.

Well the title pretty much says it...Default is to have it on right, but to include an option in "Change Desktop Background" >> Theme >> Customize, to move the buttons to a user defined position.

Well the title pretty much says it...Default is to have it on right, but to include an option in "Change Desktop Background" >> Theme >> Customize, to move the buttons to a user defined position.

Written by marvo the 10 Mar 10 at 10:28.

There are some themes that look better when the buttons are placed on the left side (like Ambiance, Radiance and Gorilla) and there are some themes that look better with the buttons being on the right side (like Glider, Human, Clearlooks or SphereCrystal).

So i propose to set the default alignment depending on the chosen theme and make it easily switchable.

The current way to change the alignment of the buttons back to the right by typing
gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
is a bit tedious.

There are some themes that look better when the buttons are placed on the left side (like Ambiance, Radiance and Gorilla) and there are some themes that look better with the buttons being on the right side (like Glider, Human, Clearlooks or SphereCrystal). So i propose to set the default alignment depending on the chosen theme and make it easily switchable. The current way to change the alignment of the buttons back to the right by typing gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" is a bit tedious.

Written by Lex the 10 Mar 10 at 11:04.

Put Close button in the corner - depending on chosen solution will be left or right corner or window.

Put Close button in the corner - depending on chosen solution will be left or right corner or window.

Written by euxneks the 11 Mar 10 at 01:31.

I think that Minimize and Maximize are more similar to the menu anyway, so put them on the left, and put the close button on the right, this harkens back to the days of old Unix and I think would still allow the theme to stand out.

I think that Minimize and Maximize are more similar to the menu anyway, so put them on the left, and put the close button on the right, this harkens back to the days of old Unix and I think would still allow the theme to stand out.

Written by i386dx the 14 Mar 10 at 12:50.

Move the Min, Max and Close-buttons back to the right.

Be able to close a window by double-clicking the window-icon at the left. This is much faster than clicking the icon and selecting 'Close' in the menu.

Move the Min, Max and Close-buttons back to the right. Be able to close a window by double-clicking the window-icon at the left. This is much faster than clicking the icon and selecting 'Close' in the menu.

Written by MoebusNet the 15 Mar 10 at 01:04.

Rationale: In VirtualBox without Guest Additions, the right-hand side of the desktop and the lower part of the desktop are not visible until you scroll. Having the above-mentioned buttons on the top-left side of the window by default makes them accessible when (not if) Guest Additions do not work/are unavailable or when scrolling for whatever reason does not work. This is especially true for development versions.

I _am_ in favor of choice, so this should be fairly easy for a user to change (preferably by GUI) to right, left or both.

Just my opinion.

Rationale: In VirtualBox without Guest Additions, the right-hand side of the desktop and the lower part of the desktop are not visible until you scroll. Having the above-mentioned buttons on the top-left side of the window by default makes them accessible when (not if) Guest Additions do not work/are unavailable or when scrolling for whatever reason does not work. This is especially true for development versions. I _am_ in favor of choice, so this should be fairly easy for a user to change (preferably by GUI) to right, left or both. Just my opinion.

Written by neblogas the 16 Mar 10 at 15:58.

Because Mark said that in 10.10 the windows will have something new in the right side, but now, there is no need to change the buttons, and this is LTS release! in 10.10 when you will finish the new mysteriuos window features on the right then you can put the buttons on the left. As I said, there is no need now to change. Its an LTS release and the people and companies won't change until the next LTS, so there won't be for them new mysteriuos windows features on the right!

Because Mark said that in 10.10 the windows will have something new in the right side, but now, there is no need to change the buttons, and this is LTS release! in 10.10 when you will finish the new mysteriuos window features on the right then you can put the buttons on the left. As I said, there is no need now to change. Its an LTS release and the people and companies won't change until the next LTS, so there won't be for them new mysteriuos windows features on the right!

Written by TrueSongMedia the 16 Mar 10 at 17:16.

Yes the button location can be changed via Terminal, but for the average user...the Terminal can be a bit scary. I think it would be appropriate to place a simple option in the Appearance Preferences window.

Something like this:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40647960/window_controls_position_gui.png

Yes the button location can be changed via Terminal, but for the average user...the Terminal can be a bit scary. I think it would be appropriate to place a simple option in the Appearance Preferences window. Something like this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40647960/window_controls_position_gui.png

Written by ichido the 17 Mar 10 at 17:53.

Move the Top Bar to the Right Side-Vertical Bar and the Bottom Bar would be on the Left Side Vertical.
This would allow for more Vertical Space.
The user would be able to Swap the Left Bar with the Right Bar and also the Size/Thickness of the Bars.
Applications could maintain the Top Bar or a Side or a Bottom bar for their Window.

Move the Top Bar to the Right Side-Vertical Bar and the Bottom Bar would be on the Left Side Vertical. This would allow for more Vertical Space. The user would be able to Swap the Left Bar with the Right Bar and also the Size/Thickness of the Bars. Applications could maintain the Top Bar or a Side or a Bottom bar for their Window.

Written by Wiplash4 the 19 Mar 10 at 12:17.

Hello
I would like to add one idea: Replace the menubar (File, Edit, View, etc.), which can be found in every window, with an icon and put that icon into the titlebar. It worked out for my terminal.
Regards

Hello I would like to add one idea: Replace the menubar (File, Edit, View, etc.), which can be found in every window, with an icon and put that icon into the titlebar. It worked out for my terminal. Regards

Written by Wiplash4 the 19 Mar 10 at 16:40.

I figured out that the status bar is only filled up to 1 / 4. Why not put those messages displayed in the status bar in the title bar?

I figured out that the status bar is only filled up to 1 / 4. Why not put those messages displayed in the status bar in the title bar?

Written by a_pirard the 20 Mar 10 at 03:14.

Modify all applications to be consistent with Lucid : move all close buttons to the left, for example, OpenOffice document close, Firefox tab close, File Explorer side pane close, etc... etc...

Modify all applications to be consistent with Lucid : move all close buttons to the left, for example, OpenOffice document close, Firefox tab close, File Explorer side pane close, etc... etc...

Written by luojie-dune the 20 Mar 10 at 21:01.

Instead of corner, make it POSSIBLE to place buttons in the MIDDLE.

I knew there is no such a solution according to "ewmh".

But, I guess most people have their cursor in the middle of a window for most of the time they using it.

Instead of corner, make it POSSIBLE to place buttons in the MIDDLE. I knew there is no such a solution according to "ewmh". But, I guess most people have their cursor in the middle of a window for most of the time they using it.

Written by LukeM33P the 25 Mar 10 at 01:13.

Compiz managers and decorators are already effective at options. Placing the Metacity and Kwin options in Emerald Decorator manager, which would be preinstalled, along with CCSM (or a custom replacement) would be the solution, with CCSM/replacement simplified to look like (in functionality and basic organization) the KDE settings manager, but using default schemes and such, of course.

For KDE users, alongside the CCSM/replacement, the interface would be integrated into the System Settings, just like the traditional settings.

The reason I propose this is because options, while not easy to find and configure (and why I propose the reorg) are very powerful. Setting up Metacity and KWin to show up as options and adding the appropriate settings, if necessary, seems to make sense (to me) as a long-term solution. The operating system needs to seem as encompassing as KDE or even more so, and combining these options so that the system is even more universal would be a step towards this.

An addition to the application of managing the system title bar like the KDE or GNOME dashboards would be similarly useful, and may be all of this potential solution that should be used. Default should stay in line with last-gen human theme, even if the colors and buttons look different.

Compiz managers and decorators are already effective at options. Placing the Metacity and Kwin options in Emerald Decorator manager, which would be preinstalled, along with CCSM (or a custom replacement) would be the solution, with CCSM/replacement simplified to look like (in functionality and basic organization) the KDE settings manager, but using default schemes and such, of course. For KDE users, alongside the CCSM/replacement, the interface would be integrated into the System Settings, just like the traditional settings. The reason I propose this is because options, while not easy to find and configure (and why I propose the reorg) are very powerful. Setting up Metacity and KWin to show up as options and adding the appropriate settings, if necessary, seems to make sense (to me) as a long-term solution. The operating system needs to seem as encompassing as KDE or even more so, and combining these options so that the system is even more universal would be a step towards this. An addition to the application of managing the system title bar like the KDE or GNOME dashboards would be similarly useful, and may be all of this potential solution that should be used. Default should stay in line with last-gen human theme, even if the colors and buttons look different.

Written by 2cute4u the 25 Mar 10 at 03:37.

XFCE has for many years had a very easy convient way to configure the placment of titlebar buttons. See.http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#wm-settings
It would not be too difficult to add somethng like this to gnome; that way everyone can be happy.

XFCE has for many years had a very easy convient way to configure the placment of titlebar buttons. See.http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#wm-settings It would not be too difficult to add somethng like this to gnome; that way everyone can be happy.

Written by MisterLinOx the 26 Mar 10 at 21:52.

Have the min, max, close buttons on both sides of the title bar, but hide them. The only time they should show is on mouseover of the bar, but depending on which side you mouseover decides which side the buttons show.

For example, cursor closer to the left side? Mouse over the top-left and the buttons will appear. Vice-versa for the right side.

Have the min, max, close buttons on both sides of the title bar, but hide them. The only time they should show is on mouseover of the bar, but depending on which side you mouseover decides which side the buttons show. For example, cursor closer to the left side? Mouse over the top-left and the buttons will appear. Vice-versa for the right side.

Written by emucosmos the 27 Mar 10 at 03:11.

make apear a messagebox in the begining of the instalation asking where do we want to have those buttons, coz personally I love the new mac style, but considering the ubuntu objectives, it's a good option to let the users choice.

make apear a messagebox in the begining of the instalation asking where do we want to have those buttons, coz personally I love the new mac style, but considering the ubuntu objectives, it's a good option to let the users choice.

Written by darkham the 29 Mar 10 at 08:23.

Let user chose on the First Run, after installation.

Let user chose on the First Run, after installation.

Written by tomjb24 the 3 Apr 10 at 09:25.

Hover over the window border, click the middle mouse button, scroll to choose (close, minimise, maximise)

Hover over the window border, click the middle mouse button, scroll to choose (close, minimise, maximise)

Written by rrnwexec the 3 Apr 10 at 20:26.

Create a version of Ubuntu for those who like the (standard) Ubuntu desktop's "look and feel" just the way it is. Solicit Mark's (SABDFL) endorsement.

Enjoy how growingly quaint it feels as time passes by!

Create a version of Ubuntu for those who like the (standard) Ubuntu desktop's "look and feel" just the way it is. Solicit Mark's (SABDFL) endorsement. Enjoy how growingly quaint it feels as time passes by!

Written by jase21 the 4 Apr 10 at 11:54.

Make Mac styled menu bar which is available in KDE. The current active windows menu appears on the bar. So no accidental closing of windows.

Or move the window control buttons to the right.

Make Mac styled menu bar which is available in KDE. The current active windows menu appears on the bar. So no accidental closing of windows. Or move the window control buttons to the right.

Written by Jon Monreal the 17 Apr 10 at 23:49.

Please note that this is not an idea for the imminent release of 10.04, but would be better included in the next update ISO.

Experienced users already know how to change the buttons back to the original location, so server installations shouldn't be so much of a problem.

For absolute beginner users, the first slide in the installation slideshow could be one explaining the benefits of having the buttons on the left side and asking the user to choose what they could like to do.

In the minimal install, it would also be easy to add a simple option (most users using the minimal install are probably fairly experienced).

This would solve the real issue here: beginners possibly not using Ubuntu at all because it changes something.

Please note that this is not an idea for the imminent release of 10.04, but would be better included in the next update ISO. Experienced users already know how to change the buttons back to the original location, so server installations shouldn't be so much of a problem. For absolute beginner users, the first slide in the installation slideshow could be one explaining the benefits of having the buttons on the left side and asking the user to choose what they could like to do. In the minimal install, it would also be easy to add a simple option (most users using the minimal install are probably fairly experienced). This would solve the real issue here: beginners possibly not using Ubuntu at all because it changes something.

Written by land_grab the 5 May 10 at 23:23.

I found this extremely easy fix how to move the min, max, and close buttons back to the right side.


http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-u buntu-10.04/

Even I was able to follow these directions and make it happen!

I found this extremely easy fix how to move the min, max, and close buttons back to the right side. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/ Even I was able to follow these directions and make it happen!

Written by turbolad the 5 Jul 10 at 15:42.

As per title. Buttons to the right by default, with an option to move to the left.

Don't forget to keep the little circle, which when clicked on, has options such as "Always On Top", "Move to Workspace Right" etc. These options should never be removed and I think the 3 buttons should be on the right by default, as most newbies are familiar with that setup.

As per title. Buttons to the right by default, with an option to move to the left. Don't forget to keep the little circle, which when clicked on, has options such as "Always On Top", "Move to Workspace Right" etc. These options should never be removed and I think the 3 buttons should be on the right by default, as most newbies are familiar with that setup.

Written by baretobareto the 3 Aug 10 at 20:31.

Fisrt of all, sorry for my English.

Why we really needs buttons to the right? Well theres no real difference between having your buttons on the left or on the right, its just a matter of have the enough time to get used to one position or another.
But what about if we have these button in a complete new position.
What about having min, max, close buttons on the right BUT in the lower side of the windows instead of the upper side.

If you think about it, when you open a document or a web-page, you need to scroll down to really knows if that document is what you are looking for. When a document is too long, you need to use the scroll down arrow. So your mouse-arrow will be closer to the lower right of the window instead of the upper side of the window.
If you want to look to a minimize window that you think it would be not useful anymore, you need to un-minimize this window. If the buttons are in the lower right of the window it will be needed much less movement of your hand to close it after un-minimize because the close button will be closer to the task bar.

<a target="_blank" title="ImageShack - Image And Video Hosting" href="http://img641.imageshack.us/i/screenshot5qs.png/"><img src="http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8462/screenshot5qs.png" border="0"/></a> Fisrt of all, sorry for my English. Why we really needs buttons to the right? Well theres no real difference between having your buttons on the left or on the right, its just a matter of have the enough time to get used to one position or another. But what about if we have these button in a complete new position. What about having min, max, close buttons on the right BUT in the lower side of the windows instead of the upper side. If you think about it, when you open a document or a web-page, you need to scroll down to really knows if that document is what you are looking for. When a document is too long, you need to use the scroll down arrow. So your mouse-arrow will be closer to the lower right of the window instead of the upper side of the window. If you want to look to a minimize window that you think it would be not useful anymore, you need to un-minimize this window. If the buttons are in the lower right of the window it will be needed much less movement of your hand to close it after un-minimize because the close button will be closer to the task bar. As you see there are some reason to have buttons in the lower side of the window BUT I know there are others to have this buttons on others positions. So, why not to put this buttons in a completely new position. This could be a ubuntu-only-feature just like the recycle bin in the task bar is a ubuntu-only-feature.

Written by DPic the 4 Aug 08 at 01:54.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #11805 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

<i>Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #11805 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution.</i><br /> Thanks!