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People forget to empty their trash and get problems with space
Written by sucotronic the 18 Feb 09 at 17:00.
Global category: Accessibility.
New
I've observed in my job that most of the users forgets to empty their trashes regularly, and suddenly one day they start to have problems due space limitations, or they don't know where is used their hard drive space.
Solution #2:
Clean trash automatically
Add the "Trash size" option (percent or absolute value) and automatically clean oldest files from the trash to fit this limit.
Add the "Trash size" option (percent or absolute value) and automatically clean oldest files from the trash to fit this limit.
Solution #3:
Compress old files
Written by
vlo the 19 Feb 09 at 20:05.
The operating system should silently compress some of the files. Perhaps this could be done when the system is not being used, or before shutdown.
The files that would be compressed would be the files that have been in the trash for a certain amount of time (configurable).
The operating system should silently compress some of the files. Perhaps this could be done when the system is not being used, or before shutdown.
The files that would be compressed would be the files that have been in the trash for a certain amount of time (configurable).
Solution #4:
Trash with maximum size
Written by
blaxter the 19 Feb 09 at 23:41.
Like in solution #2, add a "Trash size" option but instead of automatically clean oldest files form the trash, just say "the trash is full, please clean it up" when the user try to send more files to it
Like in solution #2, add a "Trash size" option but instead of automatically clean oldest files form the trash, just say "the trash is full, please clean it up" when the user try to send more files to it
Solution #5:
Notification with "Delete now"-Button
Written by
rakudave the 21 Feb 09 at 20:39.
Same as #1, but with a button to empty the trash directly from the notification-bubble
Same as #1, but with a button to empty the trash directly from the notification-bubble
Solution #6:
Don't put unnessecary distractions in the system!
Written by
kapipi the 21 Feb 09 at 21:17.
This solution is a response to solution #1. Solution #1 is great, except that as a default the user should not be notified about the size of trash, unless space on the partition is getting critically low.
The rationale:
- We don't want to distract the user's attention unnecessarily
- We don't want to force or lure the user to empty his trash unnecessarily.
This solution is a response to solution #1. Solution #1 is great, except that as a default the user should not be notified about the size of trash, unless space on the partition is getting critically low.
The rationale:
- We don't want to distract the user's attention unnecessarily
- We don't want to force or lure the user to empty his trash unnecessarily.
Solution #7:
Low disk space notification instead of trash notification
Written by
argon the 22 Feb 09 at 00:35.
The rationale of this problem is that sometimes people run out of disk space. So the notification should directly address this issue, and not just target the trash at an arbitary point, which will just lead to more annoying notifications.
Windows also does this when disk space is low...
The rationale of this problem is that sometimes people run out of disk space. So the notification should directly address this issue, and not just target the trash at an arbitary point, which will just lead to more annoying notifications.
Windows also does this when disk space is low...
Solution #8:
Create a System Cleanup widget
A notification alerts users when the system is running low on free space.
When clicked on, users can use a widget to remove unwanted files.
(Click to see full sized image)
A notification alerts users when the system is running low on free space.
<img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/nitrousinacan/crap/panelreminder.png">
When clicked on, users can use a widget to remove unwanted files.
<a href="http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6238/cleanupwizard.png"><img src="http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6238/cleanupwizard.th.png"></a>
(Click to see full sized image)
Solution #9:
auto-remove when disk-space is low
ubuntu begins to fragment when you've got not enough disk-space. lets say that the limit is about 20%.
when disk space is to full...
ubuntu should auto-remove unnecessary things to free it up. of course, it should ask the user the empty the trash, to prevent data-loss. but other cash-like things should get cleaned up.
ubuntu begins to fragment when you've got not enough disk-space. lets say that the limit is about 20%.
when disk space is to full...
ubuntu should auto-remove unnecessary things to free it up. of course, it should ask the user the empty the trash, to prevent data-loss. but other cash-like things should get cleaned up.
Solution #10:
Extend computer-janitor to support low disk space and trash notifications
Written by
ziroday the 27 Feb 09 at 12:07.
computer-janitor (only in jaunty) is a small utility to clear up left over packages and left over files that have no use. It could easily be extended to support emptying the trash and notifying the user when disk space is low.
computer-janitor (only in jaunty) is a small utility to clear up left over packages and left over files that have no use. It could easily be extended to support emptying the trash and notifying the user when disk space is low.
Solution #11:
Use the desktop icon to provide information
Written by
Menti the 7 Mar 09 at 12:23.
As proposed in
idea #14699 . Desktop icons in general are static and do not provide any useful information. Trashcan icon is slightly dinamic: it has an empty state and a full state. Let the icon change to show how much trash there is. There could be a (configurable, with a sane default) max limit to the trash size, and the desktop icon could show what percentage of that limit is already in use.
This way, we could have more information without actually adding anything to the current setup, no more clutter; only better use of an already existing and underused graphic element of the desktop.
As proposed in idea #14699. Desktop icons in general are static and do not provide any useful information. Trashcan icon is slightly dinamic: it has an empty state and a full state. Let the icon change to show how much trash there is. There could be a (configurable, with a sane default) max limit to the trash size, and the desktop icon could show what percentage of that limit is already in use.
This way, we could have more information without actually adding anything to the current setup, no more clutter; only better use of an already existing and underused graphic element of the desktop.
Solution #12:
Put the trash icon on the desktop
Written by
dubrict the 10 Mar 09 at 06:19.
The reason people forget is because by default, the trash icon is as tiny as can be and hiding in the corner. Placing it on the desktop instead puts it more directly in the user's conscious, reminding them to empty it while not being obtrusive or complex.
The "running low on free space" reminder is reasonable, because it would solve this problem while taking on another. There's no reason to add any complexity to the system beyond this.
The reason people forget is because by default, the trash icon is as tiny as can be and hiding in the corner. Placing it on the desktop instead puts it more directly in the user's conscious, reminding them to empty it while not being obtrusive or complex.
The "running low on free space" reminder is reasonable, because it would solve this problem while taking on another. There's no reason to add any complexity to the system beyond this.
Solution #13:
Empty Trash On system Shut down
Written by
MOSAM the 10 Mar 09 at 20:06.
Have the system ask you if you want to empty the trash when shutting down the as it does when unmounting disk drives.
Have the system ask you if you want to empty the trash when shutting down the as it does when unmounting disk drives.
Solution #14:
make gui to let the user decide
settings dialog _ +/- X
=============================================================
put trash icon on desktop "on/off"
Empty Trash On system Shut down "on/off/ask/auto"
Use the desktop icon to provide information "on/off"
auto-remove when disk-space is low "on/off/ask/auto"
Notification with "Delete now"-Button "on/off"
Trash with maximum size & if to delete when size limit is exceeded "on -size-/off"
Compress old files "on/off/ask/auto"
Add a configurable reminder "on/off"
|advance..|
settings dialog _ +/- X
=============================================================
put trash icon on desktop "on/off"
Empty Trash On system Shut down "on/off/ask/auto"
Use the desktop icon to provide information "on/off"
auto-remove when disk-space is low "on/off/ask/auto"
Notification with "Delete now"-Button "on/off"
Trash with maximum size & if to delete when size limit is exceeded "on -size-/off"
Compress old files "on/off/ask/auto"
Add a configurable reminder "on/off"
|advance..|
Solution #15:
Beyond Icons
Icons that represent valuable information at first glance can really save you some time.
Some users don’t care about emptying their thrash and also use it as another folder at times, this will remind them to empty it.
<img src="http://petitinvention.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/stinky_trash-petitinvention.jpg" border="0" alt="trash">
REF: http://www.kumailht.com/blog/linux/10-features-ubuntu-should-implement/
Solution #16:
Automatically delete after 30 days
I'm using a script to delete files permanently after 30 days spent in the trash:
find ~/.local/share/Trash/files -maxdepth 1 -ctime +30 -exec rm -r \;
find ~/.local/share/Trash/info -maxdepth 1 -ctime +30 -exec rm -r \;
This way the user doesn't have to worry about emptying the trash but still has a "second chance" in case a file was deleted by mistake.
I'm using a script to delete files permanently after 30 days spent in the trash:
find ~/.local/share/Trash/files -maxdepth 1 -ctime +30 -exec rm -r \;
find ~/.local/share/Trash/info -maxdepth 1 -ctime +30 -exec rm -r \;
This way the user doesn't have to worry about emptying the trash but still has a "second chance" in case a file was deleted by mistake.
Solution #17:
Provide a suite of tools for the user to save/recover disk space
Written by
yoda2031 the 28 Mar 11 at 17:26.
Computer Janitor already fulfils the requirement to recover disk space from files which are temporary/cached/etc.
Squashfs more-or-less fulfils the requirement to conserve space, but should be provided as an option on installation ("compress home directory" and "compress system directory" options)
A utility to automatically compress/remove components which have not been used for more than 30 days.
A utility which lists your installed applications in order of size and last used date. Allows the user to remove the bigger, unused packages.
A utility which allows you to "reorganise" your partitioning scheme.
Where applicable, these solutions should be accessible under an umbrella utility, possibly as an extension to the existing Disk Utility, or as a stand-alone utility.
Computer Janitor already fulfils the requirement to recover disk space from files which are temporary/cached/etc.
Squashfs more-or-less fulfils the requirement to conserve space, but should be provided as an option on installation ("compress home directory" and "compress system directory" options)
A utility to automatically compress/remove components which have not been used for more than 30 days.
A utility which lists your installed applications in order of size and last used date. Allows the user to remove the bigger, unused packages.
A utility which allows you to "reorganise" your partitioning scheme.
Where applicable, these solutions should be accessible under an umbrella utility, possibly as an extension to the existing Disk Utility, or as a stand-alone utility.
Improve file/folder sharing experience (Samba)
Written by bartong the 29 Feb 08 at 01:35.
Global category: Internet & Networking.
Implemented
Currently it is very difficult to setup and control access to shared folders without editing conf files and reading detailed instructions on all the variables. I propose that sharing (specifically Samba) be given a well worked GUI and some real TLC to bring it up to standard with the experience on Windows or OS X.
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Selected solution (#1):
Defaults and GUI Options adjusted appropriately
Written by
bartong the 29 Feb 08 at 01:35.
By default a share should be accessible as Read Only by anyone on the network without a username or password (guest access). While guest access should be turned on by default, it should also be easy to turn it off, and if desired to give guests read/write access to the folder.
You should also be able to specify local users who will have read/write access, and these local users should sync with smb users invisibly (ie: the user doesn't need to know that there are two password databases being used).
The Properties window for a folder should contain a Sharing tab with all the options available to choose. I also propose a Shared Folders option in the Preferences menu should list the currently shared folders along with their settings, and provide a button to take you into the dialogue where you can set the options.
By default a share should be accessible as Read Only by anyone on the network without a username or password (guest access). While guest access should be turned on by default, it should also be easy to turn it off, and if desired to give guests read/write access to the folder.
You should also be able to specify local users who will have read/write access, and these local users should sync with smb users invisibly (ie: the user doesn't need to know that there are two password databases being used).
The Properties window for a folder should contain a Sharing tab with all the options available to choose. I also propose a Shared Folders option in the Preferences menu should list the currently shared folders along with their settings, and provide a button to take you into the dialogue where you can set the options.
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Selected solution (#2):
Samba Server Configuration Tool
Written by
dfme the 26 Jan 09 at 12:36.
There is already an application which allows this.
If the samba package is installed on ubuntu also install this application: Samba Server Configuration Tool - A graphical interface for configuring SMB shares
There is already an application which allows this.
If the samba package is installed on ubuntu also install this application: Samba Server Configuration Tool - A graphical interface for configuring SMB shares
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Selected solution (#3):
Accueil - Samba Share w/ Nautilus Integration
How about: Accueil?
http://gentoo.ovibes.net/nautilus-share/mediawiki-1.4.4/index.php/Accueil
Actually ... this may have been replaced with "nautilus-share"?
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Selected solution (#4):
Samba Server Configuration Wizard
Written by
Agafonov the 18 Nov 09 at 21:29.
We need a simple to use step-by-step wizard which will ask some really simple questions and generate an smb.conf file based on the user's choices.
How about
https://launchpad.net/sscw ? It is a working example, although right now it's using zenity. If re-written using python it would become a very handy companion to nautilus-share.
We even should not include smb.conf in the samba package: once installed, samba server will not work until the user has defined how it should behave.
We need a simple to use step-by-step wizard which will ask some really simple questions and generate an smb.conf file based on the user's choices.
How about https://launchpad.net/sscw ? It is a working example, although right now it's using zenity. If re-written using python it would become a very handy companion to nautilus-share.
We even should not include smb.conf in the samba package: once installed, samba server will not work until the user has defined how it should behave.
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Selected solution (#5):
Share Sub-Folders by Default
Written by
Klau3 the 11 Mar 10 at 01:51.
Right now, when right clicking on a folder and selecting “Sharing Options” – for example you want to share your Music folder and create a guest access to it – Samba will only share the files within the music folder but NOT THE SUB-FOLDERS where all the music is.
When sharing a folder, most people want to give access to sub-folders. For that reason, I suggest to reverse the handling of Samba sharing, so that you would have to click on an extra box to show that you don't want Samba to share sub-folders.
<img src="http://justoneidea.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/improve-samba-sharing-e28093-sharing-sub-folders-by-default.png" />
Right now, when right clicking on a folder and selecting “Sharing Options” – for example you want to share your Music folder and create a guest access to it – Samba will only share the files within the music folder but NOT THE SUB-FOLDERS where all the music is.
When sharing a folder, most people want to give access to sub-folders. For that reason, I suggest to reverse the handling of Samba sharing, so that you would have to click on an extra box to show that you don't want Samba to share sub-folders.
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Selected solution (#6):
Create A Ubuntu NetWorkOne App
Able to handle connectivity Issues as Well As Sharing in Wizard Like Simple Interface for A New User
PS : More Ideas Can be Implemented In it
Able to handle connectivity Issues as Well As Sharing in Wizard Like Simple Interface for A New User
PS : More Ideas Can be Implemented In it
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Selected solution (#7):
Allow Ubuntu to change the mounting options of FAT partitions
I personally have a file depot on my network where users can drop the files they want everyone to access.
It used to be on a NTFS partition, but is now hosted on the samba network. Doing such was a fairly hard task, since NTFS doesn't save permissions for each file, and is mounted with the 700 permission, while Samba requires XX4 or superior. I had to modify my fstab config file for that, and that's definitively not what I'd call user-friendly.
I personally have a file depot on my network where users can drop the files they want everyone to access.
It used to be on a NTFS partition, but is now hosted on the samba network. Doing such was a fairly hard task, since NTFS doesn't save permissions for each file, and is mounted with the 700 permission, while Samba requires XX4 or superior. I had to modify my fstab config file for that, and that's definitively not what I'd call user-friendly.
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Selected solution (#9):
Centralized file-sharing administration
Written by
komputes the 17 Aug 11 at 22:42.
The question on many user's mind is "What am I sharing (and to whom)?"
“System > Administration > Shared folders” is a feature that has been removed since 8.04. There has been no replacement for this tool since its disappearance.
Solution is to create a utility that should provide a graphical front-end to configure both samba system shares (managed in /etc/samba/smb.conf) and samba usershares (/var/lib/samba/usershares/).
Stepping a bit outside the scope of the issue (samba), this application should have a pluggable infrastructure which can also be used to show and configure other types of shares (nfs, ftp, ubuntuone).
Central administration, what a concept!
The question on many user's mind is "What am I sharing (and to whom)?"
“System > Administration > Shared folders” is a feature that has been removed since 8.04. There has been no replacement for this tool since its disappearance.
Solution is to create a utility that should provide a graphical front-end to configure both samba system shares (managed in /etc/samba/smb.conf) and samba usershares (/var/lib/samba/usershares/).
Stepping a bit outside the scope of the issue (samba), this application should have a pluggable infrastructure which can also be used to show and configure other types of shares (nfs, ftp, ubuntuone).
Central administration, what a concept!
File Sorting & Grouping in Nautilus
Written by XP1 the 17 May 09 at 19:26.
Related project: Nautilus .
Implemented
I always look for specific type of files based on the file type. For example, when I know I want to find a picture, I scroll down to the JPG group. I do not have to bother looking at all files when all unrelated files are sorted alphabetically. When sorted alphabetically, there may be a text file with the similar name to the JPG file; thus, I avoid the problem of time wasting and screen clutter when I do not want to look at text files.
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Selected solution (#1):
Add file sort and group sort together as options in Nautilus
Written by
XP1 the 17 May 09 at 19:26.
Add file sort and group sort together as options in Nautilus
The Windows Explorer file manager has this feature since Windows XP. It has been greatly improved in Windows Vista. In Vista, an entire group of files can be selected simultaneously once a file group is clicked on.
URI:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawpa2000/3478448103/sizes/o/
Add file sort and group sort together as options in Nautilus
The Windows Explorer file manager has this feature since Windows XP. It has been greatly improved in Windows Vista. In Vista, an entire group of files can be selected simultaneously once a file group is clicked on.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawpa2000/3478448103/sizes/o/" title="SortByName_GroupByType by dawpa2000, on Flickr" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/3478448103_7419bac688.jpg" width="500" height="273" alt="SortByName_GroupByType" /></a>
URI: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawpa2000/3478448103/sizes/o/
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Selected solution (#2):
But don't change the current type detection method
Written by
Ssdg the 18 May 09 at 14:45.
One of the big advantages I found in "Linux" was the "relative" absence of extensions on most files. We should sort by mime types instead of extensions.
Of course, we will "forget" parts of the mime type to get it user friendly. For example, you shouldn't care about your music encodings, so MP3(music/mp3) and flac (music/flac) files will be merged in a single category (music). For more "generic" primari types, we'll use the second part (application/*)
Example:
image/png => Image
application/xml => XML
To rely on extension is as far as I'm concerned the biggest Window's mistake and we should not follow them on that path.
One of the big advantages I found in "Linux" was the "relative" absence of extensions on most files. We should sort by mime types instead of extensions.
Of course, we will "forget" parts of the mime type to get it user friendly. For example, you shouldn't care about your music encodings, so MP3(music/mp3) and flac (music/flac) files will be merged in a single category (music). For more "generic" primari types, we'll use the second part (application/*)
Example:
image/png => Image
application/xml => XML
To rely on extension is as far as I'm concerned the biggest Window's mistake and we should not follow them on that path.
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Selected solution (#3):
No need to copy Vista! Click on type column to select all by type plugin.
Written by
r0g the 19 May 09 at 21:46.
Clicking the header row of the type column ALREADY sorts folders into alphabetical groups based on mime-type so the only NEW feature that is being suggested above is the ability to select all files of the same type in a single click.
This is hardly a slog to accomplish in the first place (click, move mouse, shift-click) BUT... If the community thinks this is a useful and highly desirable feature we should definitely avoid the screen wasting approach Vista takes.
I suggest such functionality could be better implemented as a plugin that makes clicking on an item in its Type column select all items of that type in that folder.
This gives the people who want it the single click functionality with no loss of screen space. This also spares those who don't feel the need the extra clutter.
Clicking the header row of the type column ALREADY sorts folders into alphabetical groups based on mime-type so the only NEW feature that is being suggested above is the ability to select all files of the same type in a single click.
This is hardly a slog to accomplish in the first place (click, move mouse, shift-click) BUT... If the community thinks this is a useful and highly desirable feature we should definitely avoid the screen wasting approach Vista takes.
I suggest such functionality could be better implemented as a plugin that makes clicking on an item in its Type column select all items of that type in that folder.
This gives the people who want it the single click functionality with no loss of screen space. This also spares those who don't feel the need the extra clutter.
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Selected solution (#4):
Borrow from the spreadsheet auto-filter paradigm
Written by
gazilla the 20 May 09 at 12:14.
Add a small extra icon to the column heading of 'Type' in the list view. It should be visible at all times in list view, with an option in Preferences to disable the feature.
When clicked, it would work just like the auto-filter of both Excel (erk!) and OpenOffice Calc. It would present a drop-down of all the file types in the directory. Clicking on a single file type could either limit the view to just those files or select the files depending on whether a modifier key (Shift, Control, etc) is pressed. It should be possible to click on more than one file type. For example, the user should be able to use this mechanism to select JPEG and PNG files together. In this context, folders are just another "file type".
Other "groupable" columns in list view (e.g. Owner) should also have the new mini icon. So if the folder contains files from multiple owners I should be able to limit the view to just the files from a single owner. Etc, etc.
I won't comment on how Nautilus should determine the 'file type'. That is a different argument for a different day.
Add a small extra icon to the column heading of 'Type' in the list view. It should be visible at all times in list view, with an option in Preferences to disable the feature.
When clicked, it would work just like the auto-filter of both Excel (erk!) and OpenOffice Calc. It would present a drop-down of all the file types in the directory. Clicking on a single file type could either limit the view to just those files or select the files depending on whether a modifier key (Shift, Control, etc) is pressed. It should be possible to click on more than one file type. For example, the user should be able to use this mechanism to select JPEG and PNG files together. In this context, folders are just another "file type".
Other "groupable" columns in list view (e.g. Owner) should also have the new mini icon. So if the folder contains files from multiple owners I should be able to limit the view to just the files from a single owner. Etc, etc.
I won't comment on how Nautilus should determine the 'file type'. That is a different argument for a different day.
<a href="http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5093/proposedfilterinnautilu.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5093/proposedfilterinnautilu.th.png" /></a>
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Selected solution (#5):
Advanced Search Options
I think it would be advantageous to develop the search criteria options of Nautilus: by date modified, text within a file, mime type, size, et cetera.
I think it would be advantageous to develop the search criteria options of Nautilus: by date modified, text within a file, mime type, size, et cetera.
Nautilus window icon is different from the folder icon
Written by markcl the 12 Jun 10 at 22:28.
Related project: Nautilus .
Not an idea
I have folders which I gave an icon so that I can easily distinguish them from the rest. I also need to distinguish their windows from others, since sometimes I get up to 5 nautilus windows open at the same time, I am forced to read the title instead of getting to the folder I want. This destroys the purpose of giving a folder a distinct icon.
"Live CD Size as an end" is harming ubuntu's image
Written by vexorian the 27 Jun 09 at 13:48.
Global category: Installation.
Implemented
Take a look at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-06-09#The%20GIMP
It is not the first time that a completely ridiculous, non-sense, anti-usability and "coincidentally" pro-Mono proposal (also coincidentally this time, from a former Microsoft employee) is pushed under the excuse of live cd size.
Apparently live CD size has become such an end instead of a means that ubuntu even considered removing the whole image editing thing to replace it with a sub-par photo management thingy. (No, apparently creation of images is too complicated for ubuntu users, they only want to edit a couple of pictures, let creativity be part of the windows or mac OS/X experience). This time, we dashed the bullet, but the conclussion is way too weak:
"If we still need the room, kick it out altogether"
This is not the first time, before we had another sign, canonical seriously considering replacing Rhythmbox (second most popular Linux music player, correctly working, good features, good amount of ubuntu users that like it) with Banshee (a feature lacking, mono-driven, unstable app only liked by Mono zealots) again under the extremely lame excuse of live CD size.
This situation is getting ridiculous.
Some points:
* The current default app distribution just works. Jaunty had tons of good reviews. In no place were there complains about X esoteric program missing.
* The current default app distribution already fits a CD. In other words, CD size is a problem only if you want to add new packages. What new packages? Is it really wise to replace raw functionality with some incredibly unknown package named "couchdb" that, I as an ubuntu user have never needed ?
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Selected solution (#2):
Remove Mono
Written by
Lachu the 27 Jun 09 at 13:55.
Remove Mono from Ubuntu. There is no apps written in Mono I have used. I don't using Tomboy, Banshee, F-Spot(I'm not sure it's in mono), etc.
Remove Mono from Ubuntu. There is no apps written in Mono I have used. I don't using Tomboy, Banshee, F-Spot(I'm not sure it's in mono), etc.
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Selected solution (#3):
Just use a DVD...
Written by
vexorian the 27 Jun 09 at 13:59.
Yes, that thing I said about DVD distros working in third world countries better than ubuntu is perfectly true. (I know this first hand). If the third world is not the reason for the insistence on using a CD disk for it then what is it?
Is it to keep the requirements low? That should be bull, really. We are talking about an OS for which most of the latest features (notifier thingie, compiz, ...) require a 3d graphics accelerator! Yet a DVD player is too high end!
Bandwidth? I do not think the live CD ISO would automatically jump to 2GB, it would likely start at ~700 for the first releases that use DVD.
Shipping costs? I don't think a DVD weights much more than a CD, I'd say the cost remains the same
ubuntu could just keep having a CD version ISO, that just ships the essential packages (Openoffice, The Gimp, firefox, gedit, brasero, totem, rhythmbox those are really the only apps you absolutely need, and I am sure that fits a live CD just as well)
Yes, that thing I said about DVD distros working in third world countries better than ubuntu is perfectly true. (I know this first hand). If the third world is not the reason for the insistence on using a CD disk for it then what is it?
Is it to keep the requirements low? That should be bull, really. We are talking about an OS for which most of the latest features (notifier thingie, compiz, ...) require a 3d graphics accelerator! Yet a DVD player is too high end!
Bandwidth? I do not think the live CD ISO would automatically jump to 2GB, it would likely start at ~700 for the first releases that use DVD.
Shipping costs? I don't think a DVD weights much more than a CD, I'd say the cost remains the same
ubuntu could just keep having a CD version ISO, that just ships the essential packages (Openoffice, The Gimp, firefox, gedit, brasero, totem, rhythmbox those are really the only apps you absolutely need, and I am sure that fits a live CD just as well)
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Selected solution (#4):
Keep CD-Images for Xubuntu only
There are still old computers without DVD-drive (e.g. alot Pentium 3 computers). Ubuntu/Kubuntu might not run well on these but Xubuntu does.
If Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses bigger image sizes (>700MB), keep Xubuntu CD-Images for legacy support.
EDIT: Booting from an USB-Stick is also often problematic/unsupported on these old computers.
There are still old computers without DVD-drive (e.g. alot Pentium 3 computers). Ubuntu/Kubuntu might not run well on these but Xubuntu does.
If Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses bigger image sizes (>700MB), keep Xubuntu CD-Images for legacy support.
EDIT: Booting from an USB-Stick is also often problematic/unsupported on these old computers.
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Selected solution (#5):
Give greater preference to the network install
Written by
k33l0r the 4 Jul 09 at 08:24.
Make it easier to install Ubuntu using a 'network install' or 'FTP install' option. This way the latest packages could be downloaded directly from Ubuntu mirrors in the install phase and the user could select any extra packages that they may wish to install at the same time.
This would also mean that all packages would be up to date right after the installation.
An example of such an install process can be seen when installing Fedora.
Make it easier to install Ubuntu using a 'network install' or 'FTP install' option. This way the latest packages could be downloaded directly from Ubuntu mirrors in the install phase and the user could select any extra packages that they may wish to install at the same time.
This would also mean that all packages would be up to date right after the installation.
An example of such an install process can be seen when installing Fedora.
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Selected solution (#6):
Custom CD
I'd like to see the CD size mantained. They could try to keep squeezing things in ( that seems ideal for me! )
OR
We could have a link to a special website that would let you choose the apps you want to come with the live CD. Click Apply and then you would download an .img that suits your needs and saves bandwith to Canonical.
I'd like to see the CD size mantained. They could try to keep squeezing things in ( that seems ideal for me! )
OR
We could have a link to a special website that would let you choose the apps you want to come with the live CD. Click Apply and then you would download an .img that suits your needs and saves bandwith to Canonical.
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Selected solution (#7):
Target 1gb USB Flash drives
Written by
snadrus the 14 Jul 09 at 15:19.
These are down to $8 (Pricewatch) and more accessible to novices than CD burning anyway. They install faster and work on most PCs >512mb ram (an ubuntu requirement).
Rebuild the web page intending that people download an image and Windows/Linux/Mac USB creator.
Users can then use the USB drive for other uses.
For "older" PCs, soon 512mb will be "older" and everything will work except the CD drive (they usually break soon after the laptop battery). For these, Linux on USB is the best option.
These are down to $8 (Pricewatch) and more accessible to novices than CD burning anyway. They install faster and work on most PCs >512mb ram (an ubuntu requirement).
Rebuild the web page intending that people download an image and Windows/Linux/Mac USB creator.
Users can then use the USB drive for other uses.
For "older" PCs, soon 512mb will be "older" and everything will work except the CD drive (they usually break soon after the laptop battery). For these, Linux on USB is the best option.
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Selected solution (#8):
Install from repo on first click in the Application menu.
Written by
madhi19 the 17 Sep 09 at 12:10.
The first time you click on an Applications in the Applications menu it will install from the repo just like the Add/Remove menu. You could still keep a few "Must Have" like a web browser but everything else would be server dependent. That would make keeping a cleaner desktop even easier. Why should you even install the things that you never use?
The first time you click on an Applications in the Applications menu it will install from the repo just like the Add/Remove menu. You could still keep a few "Must Have" like a web browser but everything else would be server dependent. That would make keeping a cleaner desktop even easier. Why should you even install the things that you never use?
Gedit litters my hard drive with temp files.
Written by r0g the 30 Jan 09 at 05:32.
Global category: Others.
New
The ones with ~ at the end of them. This is not good for security and it's annoying.
There _is_ an option to disable this but, as it rightly points out, if it were to crash at any point in the saving process you've lost your edits.
Thank Codeweavers for giving away Crossover for free -- today only!
Written by Ubun2ideas the 28 Oct 08 at 17:12.
Global category: Others.
Not an idea
My idea is that we should thank CodeWeavers for their good spirit and generosity by offering fully-functioning versions of their flagship products for free - for today only (Tues. Oct 28, 2008)
CodeWeavers CEO Jeremy White was good to his word, and for today only, Codeweavers is giving away free, fully unlocked builds for both Linux and Mac of Crossover Pro and Crossover Games. Both can be downloaded here:
http://down.codeweavers.com/
In addition, on the same webpage, serial numbers to unlock existing Crossover products can be requested -- also for today only.
I know this is a commercial and proprietary product - the programs are modified, proprietary versions of the public and open-source Wine source tree with additional patches and tools - and that some in the community may object to my mentioning it here. OK. Object.
Simplify default bookmark creation in Firefox
Written by grofaty the 5 Feb 09 at 19:29.
Related project: Firefox .
Not an idea
In Firefox 3.0 there are many ways to add bookmarks:
1. ctrl+d
2. menu Bookmark | Bookmark this page
3. single click on Star
4. double click on Star
etc
None of them are extremely simple. I got very unpleasant surprise with Firefox new user. Just to tell him how to save bookmarks... Very simple think to do but so complicated.