Contributor jamesisin
Nautilus to display more info while asking for copying existing file
Written by aufather the 9 Nov 08 at 04:07.
Related project: Nautilus .
Implemented
When I copy a newer version of a file, nautilus asks whether to skip or replace this file. But it does not provide any info other than the file name. It would be nice if it would at least provide the file sizes too. More info maybe accessible from a drop down button. Like modified time, owner, permissions etc. But these can be hidden and be accessible from a drop down button (like the button which shows progress of individual files during software installation). This will help the user to compare both the files and make an informed decision there itself. Instead of canceling the operation and then comparing both the files and then redoing the same operation.
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Selected solution (#2):
Collapsed additional information
Written by
dcruz the 28 Apr 09 at 10:47.
The dialog should contain collapsed additional information from both files that the user could access, such as:
* size
* creation date
* modification date
* creator
* etc.
The dialog should contain collapsed additional information from both files that the user could access, such as:
* size
* creation date
* modification date
* creator
* etc.
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Selected solution (#3):
Diff view for text files
Written by
dcruz the 28 Apr 09 at 10:48.
Have an option the see the difference between both files it those files are textual.
Have an option the see the difference between both files it those files are textual.
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Selected solution (#4):
Have an option to suggest another name.
Written by
Lachu the 28 Apr 09 at 13:08.
GNOME should have option, like in KDE to write file in destination folder, but changes the name. When file should be named "SomeDocument", we should name it "SomeDocument-CurrentDate" or "SomeDocument-SourceFolderName".
GNOME should have option, like in KDE to write file in destination folder, but changes the name. When file should be named "SomeDocument", we should name it "SomeDocument-CurrentDate" or "SomeDocument-SourceFolderName".
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Selected solution (#5):
Have an option to rename old file
Written by
Akerbos the 29 Apr 09 at 19:52.
Similar to #3, but rename the existing file (kind of backup style)
I'd like this because most often you want the new file to be in effect at that moment while preserving the old one.
Similar to #3, but rename the existing file (kind of backup style)
I'd like this because most often you want the new file to be in effect at that moment while preserving the old one.
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Selected solution (#6):
Option to Merge files/folders
There should also be an option for merging files/folders together just as in some other operating systems. This will be especially beneficial in case of folders.
There should also be an option for merging files/folders together just as in some other operating systems. This will be especially beneficial in case of folders.
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Selected solution (#7):
Easy way to open both files for visual comparison
Written by
philip the 5 May 09 at 22:25.
The motivation is like #2 but for non-text files. If one or both files are images, office documents or media files, diff will not help. Clicking on the file name should open the file. This saves a visual search for the files in the directory.
The motivation is like #2 but for non-text files. If one or both files are images, office documents or media files, diff will not help. Clicking on the file name should open the file. This saves a visual search for the files in the directory.
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Selected solution (#8):
Previews of the files
Written by
philip the 5 May 09 at 22:52.
The dialog should contain pre-computed views of the files, so you don't have to wait for (say) the spreadsheet program to load and open the files. The views should be about 100x100 pixels large and should show a cropped, scrollable view of each file. When the user resizes the dialog,, the preview areas should show more or less of the files. Or, a larger preview can show as a tool tip when the mouse hovers over the small preview.
The dialog should contain pre-computed views of the files, so you don't have to wait for (say) the spreadsheet program to load and open the files. The views should be about 100x100 pixels large and should show a cropped, scrollable view of each file. When the user resizes the dialog,, the preview areas should show more or less of the files. Or, a larger preview can show as a tool tip when the mouse hovers over the small preview.
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Selected solution (#9):
nautulis: copy old file to trash before overwrite
Written by
bgfeldm the 12 May 09 at 13:01.
add an option to move old file to the trash before overwrite.
nautulis:
move file to trash before overwrite, if file is a text or document file below a preconfigured size such as 1 MB.
This way overwritten files can be retrieved at a dept of one.
Or you could make the trash bin a temporary source repository for overwritten/deleted files, only storing the diff of the text files, so you limit space taken up by the trash bin and have multiple restore points for files. The repository will be clear every time the user clears the repository or after a defined amount of days.
add an option to move old file to the trash before overwrite.
nautulis:
move file to trash before overwrite, if file is a text or document file below a preconfigured size such as 1 MB.
This way overwritten files can be retrieved at a dept of one.
Or you could make the trash bin a temporary source repository for overwritten/deleted files, only storing the diff of the text files, so you limit space taken up by the trash bin and have multiple restore points for files. The repository will be clear every time the user clears the repository or after a defined amount of days.
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Selected solution (#10):
Compare checksum of files.
Written by
Matir the 26 May 09 at 03:19.
Since md5sum is necessary for parts of apt and is installed in every base system, only files with the same name and different checksums need to be considered.
Since md5sum is necessary for parts of apt and is installed in every base system, only files with the same name and different checksums need to be considered.
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Selected solution (#11):
Relace If Newer button
Written by
Redge the 2 Jun 09 at 18:34.
See also solution #6. We now have a "Replace All" button, but I miss Windows Explorer's "Replace if Newer" option. Displaying extra info is all nice, but I want to be able to do file operations that don't require further user interaction. So let's add that "Replace All if Newer" button.
See also solution #6. We now have a "Replace All" button, but I miss Windows Explorer's "Replace if Newer" option. Displaying extra info is all nice, but I want to be able to do file operations that don't require further user interaction. So let's add that "Replace All if Newer" button.
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Selected solution (#12):
Push transfers requiring user feedback to the end of the queue
Written by
Redge the 8 Jun 09 at 00:07.
When doing file operations and Nautilus encounters conflicts or errors that require the user's feedback to resolve, Nautilus should first try to complete the rest of the queue and push the files needing feedback to the end. That way, if the user is AFK as much of the operation as possible will be done by the time he/she gets back.
When doing file operations and Nautilus encounters conflicts or errors that require the user's feedback to resolve, Nautilus should first try to complete the rest of the queue and push the files needing feedback to the end. That way, if the user is AFK as much of the operation as possible will be done by the time he/she gets back.
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Selected solution (#13):
Use Desktop files.
Written by
Lachu the 19 Jun 09 at 08:47.
On situation in idea, Ubuntu should save file on different name and create Desktop file to it. Many user uses only GUI application with file managers supporting Desktop Files.
On situation in idea, Ubuntu should save file on different name and create Desktop file to it. Many user uses only GUI application with file managers supporting Desktop Files.
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Selected solution (#14):
Check files below a certain size
Written by
korin43 the 18 Jun 09 at 20:58.
Decide on a on file size where it's faster to just check if it's an identical file than ask the user if they want to replace/skip. If the files with the same name are identical, we just skip them instead of presenting the replace/skip dialogue (since both options would have the same result).
Note: This would be a complete byte-for-byte comparison, not just a comparison of timestamps and name.
Here's the order that the system would check:
- Is there a file with the same name?
- Is it below the maximum size set to check? (we don't want to auto-check if it would be faster to ask the user. ex: 10 Gb file)
- Compare size
- Compare the two files (byte-for-byte), fail as soon as you find anything different (if the first byte of the new file is different, fail immediately instead of checking the whole file)
Note 2: Timestamps will not be compared. If the new file is identical with a different timestamp, the new timestamp should be applied.
Decide on a on file size where it's faster to just check if it's an identical file than ask the user if they want to replace/skip. If the files with the same name are identical, we just skip them instead of presenting the replace/skip dialogue (since both options would have the same result).
Note: This would be a complete byte-for-byte comparison, not just a comparison of timestamps and name.
Here's the order that the system would check:
- Is there a file with the same name?
- Is it below the maximum size set to check? (we don't want to auto-check if it would be faster to ask the user. ex: 10 Gb file)
- Compare size
- Compare the two files (byte-for-byte), fail as soon as you find anything different (if the first byte of the new file is different, fail immediately instead of checking the whole file)
Note 2: Timestamps will not be compared. If the new file is identical with a different timestamp, the new timestamp should be applied.
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Selected solution (#15):
Add "auto" option to replce/skip pop-up
This gives the user the option to replace/skip if they already know whether the file is identical or not, or don't want to risk replacing an important file. But if they don't know if the files are identical, then they can press the auto button.
It would look something like this:
|Auto| |Auto all| |Replace| |Replace all| |Skip| |Skip all|
This gives the user the option to replace/skip if they already know whether the file is identical or not, or don't want to risk replacing an important file. But if they don't know if the files are identical, then they can press the auto button.
It would look something like this:
|Auto| |Auto all| |Replace| |Replace all| |Skip| |Skip all|
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Selected solution (#16):
Show context for the differences
The dialog should attempt to show the differences between the files if they are in a recognizable format. For example, if the files are images, show both images, along with file size and date. This will allow the user to easily make a decision about whether to replace the file. The destination filename could also be an editable field to allow the user to change the name and have the copy continue under the new name. If the file were an audio file then it could display bitrate, sample rate, length, etc.
Here's an example dialog box from Directory Opus on Windows which demonstrates this:
The dialog should attempt to show the differences between the files if they are in a recognizable format. For example, if the files are images, show both images, along with file size and date. This will allow the user to easily make a decision about whether to replace the file. The destination filename could also be an editable field to allow the user to change the name and have the copy continue under the new name. If the file were an audio file then it could display bitrate, sample rate, length, etc.
Here's an example dialog box from Directory Opus on Windows which demonstrates this:
<img src="http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4432/sreplacey.png">
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Selected solution (#17):
Continue copying the files that doesn't need confirmation
Written by
pgdx the 31 Jul 09 at 08:09.
The copying of the rest of the files should continue and the files in question should be queued until the user decides what to do with this.
The copying of the rest of the files should continue and the files in question should be queued until the user decides what to do with this.
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Selected solution (#18):
Try to read ahead for dialogue-requireing issues
When you do a large transfer, it could try to calculate exactly what needs to be moved where first, so that the user does not have to sit there to make sure there are no conflicts.
When you do a large transfer, it could try to calculate exactly what needs to be moved where first, so that the user does not have to sit there to make sure there are no conflicts.
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Selected solution (#19):
Avoid overwriting the same file.
Written by
pubsbin the 8 Aug 09 at 01:12.
There are some easy tests for checking if two files (in two different folders) are the same file. From the easy ones (metainformation, size, name), checking some positions (sampling) and, finally, comparing them entirely.
If Nautilus uses those easy equality checks, it could avoid copying equal files. Even if you compare the whole file, a read is faster than a write.
There are some easy tests for checking if two files (in two different folders) are the same file. From the easy ones (metainformation, size, name), checking some positions (sampling) and, finally, comparing them entirely.
If Nautilus uses those easy equality checks, it could avoid copying equal files. Even if you compare the whole file, a read is faster than a write.
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Selected solution (#20):
"No to ALL"
Written by
don1500 the 12 Aug 09 at 20:20.
Most of the time I have this problem I run into it when moving music files. There is a "Yes to ALL" but no "No to All". All I want are the files that are on the source but not on the target. "Overwrite if Newer" is close and a good suggestion, but sometimes I don't want to overwrite the old file. Sometimes you want to overwrite the older version, and with "Yes to All" you still have that option. Maybe adding both "Overwrite if newer" AND "No to ALL" is the answer. I think this would be the easiest to implement. This is also the K.I.S.S. answer.
Most of the time I have this problem I run into it when moving music files. There is a "Yes to ALL" but no "No to All". All I want are the files that are on the source but not on the target. "Overwrite if Newer" is close and a good suggestion, but sometimes I don't want to overwrite the old file. Sometimes you want to overwrite the older version, and with "Yes to All" you still have that option. Maybe adding both "Overwrite if newer" AND "No to ALL" is the answer. I think this would be the easiest to implement. This is also the K.I.S.S. answer.
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Selected solution (#21):
Use a 'For All' Checkbox to Simplify Things
Simple enough, instead of having 'Replace All' and 'Skip All' have a check box 'For All'.
Obviously, the actual thing would look a bit more professional than the one I made in Gimp.
Simple enough, instead of having 'Replace All' and 'Skip All' have a check box 'For All'.
<img src="http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1217030/Ubuntu%20Brainstorm/replace%3F.png">
Obviously, the actual thing would look a bit more professional than the one I made in Gimp.
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Selected solution (#22):
warn when deleting a folder with a copied file in it.
Written by
caleb the 21 Aug 09 at 08:54.
I have gotten into the bad habit of copying a file deleting the parent folder, and pasting it elsewhere. Ubuntu should warn when deleting a copied file's folder.
I have gotten into the bad habit of copying a file deleting the parent folder, and pasting it elsewhere. Ubuntu should warn when deleting a copied file's folder.
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Selected solution (#23):
Advanced File Operations (AFO :D)
Written by
Chronos the 29 Aug 09 at 14:46.
Create a more advanced "thread" based queuing system for file operations. Its possible to make it simple, no need to make it complex. Read below:
Seriously, in Total commander i used a lot the function to not just copy files at once and send the process in the background, but to push F2, and create a list of the operations where(!) the list is a queue. So the processes are not running at the same time to slow things down. We can even make this better. Imagine you have 4 drives. A B C and D. You want to copy 3x6 folders/files from A to B and vice versa. It takes long, so you start to copy/move/whatsoever to work on C and D (like before from C to D and vice versa). To make all these operations (4direction) run at the same time slows the computer slow down(no wonder why).
We could create two thread with two queues in this case.
In summary, A and B would process their queue, processing files the fast as possible, and separately C and D would do their things as well.
We could make it automatic maybe, that if we are making file operations to or from one partition/hardware, at default it would create a queue, what (with a push of a button) would appear from the already used window(dont know the name). This queue would make sure that only one operation is active at a time, making hardware sweat less, and operations faster.
Maybe i'll do a mockup if i have time.
This is just an idea, we can modify it.
Cheers,
David
Create a more advanced "thread" based queuing system for file operations. Its possible to make it simple, no need to make it complex. Read below:
Seriously, in Total commander i used a lot the function to not just copy files at once and send the process in the background, but to push F2, and create a list of the operations where(!) the list is a queue. So the processes are not running at the same time to slow things down. We can even make this better. Imagine you have 4 drives. A B C and D. You want to copy 3x6 folders/files from A to B and vice versa. It takes long, so you start to copy/move/whatsoever to work on C and D (like before from C to D and vice versa). To make all these operations (4direction) run at the same time slows the computer slow down(no wonder why).
We could create two thread with two queues in this case.
In summary, A and B would process their queue, processing files the fast as possible, and separately C and D would do their things as well.
We could make it automatic maybe, that if we are making file operations to or from one partition/hardware, at default it would create a queue, what (with a push of a button) would appear from the already used window(dont know the name). This queue would make sure that only one operation is active at a time, making hardware sweat less, and operations faster.
Maybe i'll do a mockup if i have time.
This is just an idea, we can modify it.
Cheers,
David
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Selected solution (#24):
Pile up a list of action needed files.(Use with Solution #1)
The list would list all the files that need conformation and let u handle them with check boxes. ( A Select All/None combo button and an Invert Selection button are a must for such a list. Then double clicking a listed directory should select all in the directory.)
Then by for example pressing Overwrite or a Do Nothing button the action would affect all selected files. After which you can continue such steps until the List is gone or the user exits.
I'd imagine this would be simple to do without over complicating things.
Also the number of dialogues could easily be reduced with this strategy.
This increases efficiency because a user could handle all the conformation files at once in their own way even as their still copying normal files.
The list would list all the files that need conformation and let u handle them with check boxes. ( A Select All/None combo button and an Invert Selection button are a must for such a list. Then double clicking a listed directory should select all in the directory.)
Then by for example pressing Overwrite or a Do Nothing button the action would affect all selected files. After which you can continue such steps until the List is gone or the user exits.
I'd imagine this would be simple to do without over complicating things.
Also the number of dialogues could easily be reduced with this strategy.
This increases efficiency because a user could handle all the conformation files at once in their own way even as their still copying normal files.
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Selected solution (#25):
property comparison table
Just like solution #16 above, but the properties should be listed in a side-by-side table, with cells highlighted in green if they match, red if they don't match, and if they ALL match then there is no reason to bug the user at all.
Just like solution #16 above, but the properties should be listed in a side-by-side table, with cells highlighted in green if they match, red if they don't match, and if they ALL match then there is no reason to bug the user at all.
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Selected solution (#26):
Add intelligent preview/comparison box to the Nautilus file replacement dialogue
Written by
cajhne the 14 Sep 10 at 21:05.
Disclaimer: I worked this up before finding that my problem was a dupe of this thread, so don't yell at me for "duplicating" some ideas here. I've +1 promoted the ones that I came to the same or similar conclusions about. There's different stuff in here, so please read the whole thing! :)
It would be handy to show other relevant information based on the file type in a small preview/comparison area on the side of the replace notification dialogue. It would also be nice to have an in-dialogue "rename" function, where you could change the name of the file being copied rather than just the standard replace/don't replace option. Leave the defaults the way they are, but offer a drop-down of other solutions, as well as a preview box for the file. Text files could show the first few lines of the file (if permissions allow), the photo can show thumbnails, music can have the same (nifty) mouse-over preview in the file browser, etc.
The "intelligent" bit changes the options for replacement/renaming/etc based on the kind of file, and the kind of preview shown. Some handy alternate options might be "append" for videos/music/text files, which combines/concatenates two files into one, or "version" which simply appends an ordering number to the end of the filename (my_cat.jpg -> mycat_b.jpg)
I have worked up a visual on what I think this might look like if there's enough interest. :)
http://whitecatgraphics.com/ubuntu/nautilus_replace_comparison_dialogue.jpg
This example shows the standard file replace dialogue with my additions. The files under scrutiny are an old and new version of the same image. The desaturated, darker one is meant to represent an unedited photo, and the saturated one an edited version, which highlights the advantage/importance of being able to see samples of each to make the judgement.
Things to note in this sample:
1.The "replace all" option now has a drop-down menu below it, in which you can specify in what manner you want to "replace all".
2.The arrow between the two thumbnails indicates which is source and which is the destination (since some people in the world read from right to left. :))
3.The thumbnails act like thumbnails in the regular browser. Right-clicking on them could bring up options like "preview", "open with", "info", or "show in folder".
4.Selecting "Keep" under either sample will automatically set the other to "Erase", for ease of use. The "Save As..." option could bring up a box for the new file name, or alternatively, a standard "save as" dialogue as seen in GIMP, Open Office, etc, when you choose "Save As".
5.The green check-mark and the red "X" icon indicate which is being kept, and which is not. These change when "Keep" or "Erase" is selected.
6.After selection is complete, the user would then click the "Replace" button to perform the action, and continue the file copy/move operations.
I'm not married to any of the above components. If anyone thinks of a different/better way to do it, please post it in the comments section, and I'll revise this solution based on the suggestions. :)
I'm not proposing changing any of the defaults, just adding a box for more information, and a few more options to streamline the current replacement procedure.
Disclaimer: I worked this up before finding that my problem was a dupe of this thread, so don't yell at me for "duplicating" some ideas here. I've +1 promoted the ones that I came to the same or similar conclusions about. There's different stuff in here, so please read the whole thing! :)
It would be handy to show other relevant information based on the file type in a small preview/comparison area on the side of the replace notification dialogue. It would also be nice to have an in-dialogue "rename" function, where you could change the name of the file being copied rather than just the standard replace/don't replace option. Leave the defaults the way they are, but offer a drop-down of other solutions, as well as a preview box for the file. Text files could show the first few lines of the file (if permissions allow), the photo can show thumbnails, music can have the same (nifty) mouse-over preview in the file browser, etc.
The "intelligent" bit changes the options for replacement/renaming/etc based on the kind of file, and the kind of preview shown. Some handy alternate options might be "append" for videos/music/text files, which combines/concatenates two files into one, or "version" which simply appends an ordering number to the end of the filename (my_cat.jpg -> mycat_b.jpg)
I have worked up a visual on what I think this might look like if there's enough interest. :)
http://whitecatgraphics.com/ubuntu/nautilus_replace_comparison_dialogue.jpg
This example shows the standard file replace dialogue with my additions. The files under scrutiny are an old and new version of the same image. The desaturated, darker one is meant to represent an unedited photo, and the saturated one an edited version, which highlights the advantage/importance of being able to see samples of each to make the judgement.
Things to note in this sample:
1.The "replace all" option now has a drop-down menu below it, in which you can specify in what manner you want to "replace all".
2.The arrow between the two thumbnails indicates which is source and which is the destination (since some people in the world read from right to left. :))
3.The thumbnails act like thumbnails in the regular browser. Right-clicking on them could bring up options like "preview", "open with", "info", or "show in folder".
4.Selecting "Keep" under either sample will automatically set the other to "Erase", for ease of use. The "Save As..." option could bring up a box for the new file name, or alternatively, a standard "save as" dialogue as seen in GIMP, Open Office, etc, when you choose "Save As".
5.The green check-mark and the red "X" icon indicate which is being kept, and which is not. These change when "Keep" or "Erase" is selected.
6.After selection is complete, the user would then click the "Replace" button to perform the action, and continue the file copy/move operations.
I'm not married to any of the above components. If anyone thinks of a different/better way to do it, please post it in the comments section, and I'll revise this solution based on the suggestions. :)
I'm not proposing changing any of the defaults, just adding a box for more information, and a few more options to streamline the current replacement procedure.
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Selected solution (#27):
Do dry-run before actually copying data
Check the destination and see if any files are present, and if there are problems before actually start copying data.
That way, any problems requiring user interaction can be flagged upfront, once data copying has started it is guaranteed to continue without user interaction.
Check the destination and see if any files are present, and if there are problems before actually start copying data.
That way, any problems requiring user interaction can be flagged upfront, once data copying has started it is guaranteed to continue without user interaction.
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Selected solution (#28):
Additions to File Operations
Written by
JohnLM the 15 Jan 09 at 21:46.
I thought it could scan for involved devices and queue by (configurable) default, if that device is in use (i.e. having copy or move operation already). And have a "Do now!" kind of button on file operation window for override.
Naturally it should never en-queue same partition's move operations, cause they are super fast by nature!
btw As far as I know the Nautilus' File Operations thingie is not really finished and is under development now!
I thought it could scan for involved devices and queue by (configurable) default, if that device is in use (i.e. having copy or move operation already). And have a "Do now!" kind of button on file operation window for override.
Naturally it should never en-queue same partition's move operations, cause they are super fast by nature!
btw As far as I know the Nautilus' File Operations thingie is not really finished and is under development now!
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Selected solution (#29):
Conflict dialog: say how many more conflicts there are
Written by
philip the 18 Mar 11 at 20:07.
When you try to copy or move a bunch of files, and files with those names already exist in the destination folder, you get a dialog asking you if you want to replace the existing file or skip copying this file. You can also check a check box for repeating this operation on all other conflicting files.
It would be helpful to know how many more conflicting files there are. This can alert the user that he has done something wrong if he did not expect that many conflicts. It can also guide his decision to check the conflicts manually or click on the "perform this for all files" check box.
Getting more sophisticated, the dialog could even list the conflicting files when the user clicks on a drop down list.
When you try to copy or move a bunch of files, and files with those names already exist in the destination folder, you get a dialog asking you if you want to replace the existing file or skip copying this file. You can also check a check box for repeating this operation on all other conflicting files.
It would be helpful to know how many more conflicting files there are. This can alert the user that he has done something wrong if he did not expect that many conflicts. It can also guide his decision to check the conflicts manually or click on the "perform this for all files" check box.
Getting more sophisticated, the dialog could even list the conflicting files when the user clicks on a drop down list.
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Selected solution (#30):
Perform file operation / action with gksudo initiation
Perform file operation / action with gksudo-like initiation requiring a pword
Perform file operation / action with gksudo-like initiation requiring a pword
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Selected solution (#31):
Require the user to enter a sub menu.
Simply having gksu pop up every time a user tries to do something they aren't allowed to (edit a system file) is a quick way to a non-working system.
I propose we put gksu-enabled commands in a sub-menu (like how new-file lists a few file types). This will prevent users from simply converting to "enter your password until it works" people.
Simply having gksu pop up every time a user tries to do something they aren't allowed to (edit a system file) is a quick way to a non-working system.
I propose we put gksu-enabled commands in a sub-menu (like how new-file lists a few file types). This will prevent users from simply converting to "enter your password until it works" people.
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Selected solution (#32):
Add a pause button
Written by
dead_orc the 12 Mar 09 at 13:40.
Add a pause/continue button next to the stop button with which you can pause file operations and continue them later on.
Add a pause/continue button next to the stop button with which you can pause file operations and continue them later on.
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Selected solution (#33):
Control the number of simultaneous op-s on a drive
Written by
andrew.p the 19 Mar 09 at 21:28.
This is not a complete solution, but an addition to #2/#1.
I often miss an option to limit the number of simultaneous file operations on a drive (simultaneous file operations are not as quick as one-by-one sometimes).
Speaking about sol#1, it would be logical to have an option to queue file operation instead of performing immediately (name menu item "Queue Paste" & give it keyboard shortcut like Ctrl+Alt+V/Ctrl+Q/Super+V). Also it is a workaround for controlling the number of simultaneous file operations.
This is not a complete solution, but an addition to #2/#1.
I often miss an option to limit the number of simultaneous file operations on a drive (simultaneous file operations are not as quick as one-by-one sometimes).
Speaking about sol#1, it would be logical to have an option to queue file operation instead of performing immediately (name menu item "Queue Paste" & give it keyboard shortcut like Ctrl+Alt+V/Ctrl+Q/Super+V). Also it is a workaround for controlling the number of simultaneous file operations.
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Selected solution (#34):
Use ionice
The 'ionice' command sets the io scheduling class and priority for a program. A user can easily downgrade the io priority of any process. ionice is included in the 'schedutils' package, already in the repositories.
It's powerful and solves a lot of disk-thrashing if used properly. Read the man page before using it!
The 'ionice' command sets the io scheduling class and priority for a program. A user can easily downgrade the io priority of any process. ionice is included in the 'schedutils' package, already in the repositories.
It's powerful and solves a lot of disk-thrashing if used properly. Read the man page before using it!
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Selected solution (#35):
Click & drag priority management
Being able to set the priority of ops would be really useful, but we also don't want to add too much to the interface.
I think the most user-friendly solution would be to:
1) Run only one op at a time automatically
2) Have a continue / pause button to force start, pause, and resume
3) Have the ops listed by priority (i.e. which was started first; which are running)
4) Be able to click and drag the progress bars up/down to switch the priorities
Being able to set the priority of ops would be really useful, but we also don't want to add too much to the interface.
I think the most user-friendly solution would be to:
1) Run only one op at a time automatically
2) Have a continue / pause button to force start, pause, and resume
3) Have the ops listed by priority (i.e. which was started first; which are running)
4) Be able to click and drag the progress bars up/down to switch the priorities
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Selected solution (#36):
implement "queue file transfer" function
Written by
nuzeb the 25 Jun 09 at 11:43.
It would be nice to be able to manually start a lot of file transfers with a queue function (e.g. right click menue of nautils "queue copy"). The transfers will then be done one after another in given order.
It would be nice to be able to manually start a lot of file transfers with a queue function (e.g. right click menue of nautils "queue copy"). The transfers will then be done one after another in given order.
A password should not be required to check for updates
Written by bluenova the 23 Apr 09 at 07:44.
Related project: Update manager .
Implemented
Currently Ubuntu requires the user to enter their password before they can check for updates. A password should only be required for activities that can cause damage to the computer and checking for updates does not make any changes to the system and therefore cannot cause any damage.
With the new update notification system in Jaunty taking 7 days to alert you to new (non-security) updates, it's likely that more people will want to manually see if updates are available, and having to type in your password each time to do this is quite annoying.
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Selected solution (#1):
Do not ask for a password to check for updates, only to apply them
Written by
bluenova the 23 Apr 09 at 07:44.
Rather than asking for the users password when clicking 'Check' in the update manager, ask for the password when the user clicks 'Install Updates'.
Rather than asking for the users password when clicking 'Check' in the update manager, ask for the password when the user clicks 'Install Updates'.
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Selected solution (#2):
Enable option of automatic update for all fixes
Written by
grofaty the 25 Apr 09 at 19:13.
Now Ubuntu has an option in System | Administration | Software Sources | Update tab to install security updates automatically. Make an option to automatically install all updates.
Now Ubuntu has an option in System | Administration | Software Sources | Update tab to install security updates automatically. Make an option to automatically install all updates.
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Selected solution (#3):
Display possible updates at start, need password only on download & install.
The real issue is even gathering the information (which may tell you that there are no updates needed) requires the password step. So currently, there is a zero-benefit step:
Action: Open up update-manager. Effect: Nothing changes from before.
Action: Click check and put in password. Effect: Check for newer updates.
Action: Click Install updates. Effect: Finally install updates.
Because opening up update-manager is a declaration of the wish to at least check for updates, this should be revised to:
Action: Open up update-manager. Effect: perform check for updates, but download nothing.
Action: Click install updates and put in password. Effect: download & install currently "checked" updates.
The real issue is even gathering the information (which may tell you that there are no updates needed) requires the password step. So currently, there is a zero-benefit step:
Action: Open up update-manager. Effect: Nothing changes from before.
Action: Click check and put in password. Effect: Check for newer updates.
Action: Click Install updates. Effect: Finally install updates.
Because opening up update-manager is a declaration of the wish to at least check for updates, this should be revised to:
Action: Open up update-manager. Effect: perform check for updates, but download nothing.
Action: Click install updates and put in password. Effect: download & install currently "checked" updates.
Solution #1:
Audio sensational enhancement
Written by
DrG the 1 Jan 10 at 10:42.
Develop Software for Audio sensational enhancement like
1. Realistic surround sound experience from desktop speakers, internal notebook speakers and headphones
2. Improved bass
3. Dialog clarity makes vocals easier to understand
4. Delivers a more lively and brilliant sound by highlighting the high frequency details originally presented in the audio source
5.Speaker output optimization to compensate and reposition audio placement for poorly placed speakers
Like that of SRS Audio Sandbox -
http://www.srslabs.com/store/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6
Develop Software for Audio sensational enhancement like
1. Realistic surround sound experience from desktop speakers, internal notebook speakers and headphones
2. Improved bass
3. Dialog clarity makes vocals easier to understand
4. Delivers a more lively and brilliant sound by highlighting the high frequency details originally presented in the audio source
5.Speaker output optimization to compensate and reposition audio placement for poorly placed speakers
Like that of SRS Audio Sandbox - http://www.srslabs.com/store/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6
Solution #1:
Enhanced Stereo and Surround Sound .
Written by
DrG the 3 Jan 10 at 15:54.
In mono audio format the signal from all speakers are the same .
In multi channel format , there is difference between the signals .
Most of the music we enjoy have only subtle difference between the channels and most are only two channels .
A mono format can be converted to Stereo or multi channel format by selectively filtering frequency patterns for each of the speakers . Same to Stereo to multi channel .
The difference in amplitude of such filtered frequencies can be increased and this increase gives an extended stereo or surround experience .
The conversion of mono to stereo may distort the sound because the various patterns of sounds may be projected to wrong directions. This problem will not affect stereo to extended stereo or multi channel since we have guides ( or already present differences in channel ) to project the sound patterns to various directions .
Also see-
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23190/ &
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23191/
The feature had to be turned off as default .
The original musics may be affected in a similar way to that of sound equalizer , some people may like and other may not . But the audio sensational enhancement will be different and superior to that of an equalizer .
In mono audio format the signal from all speakers are the same .
In multi channel format , there is difference between the signals .
Most of the music we enjoy have only subtle difference between the channels and most are only two channels .
A mono format can be converted to Stereo or multi channel format by selectively filtering frequency patterns for each of the speakers . Same to Stereo to multi channel .
The difference in amplitude of such filtered frequencies can be increased and this increase gives an extended stereo or surround experience .
The conversion of mono to stereo may distort the sound because the various patterns of sounds may be projected to wrong directions. This problem will not affect stereo to extended stereo or multi channel since we have guides ( or already present differences in channel ) to project the sound patterns to various directions .
<img src="http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1953/enhanced20surround3.jpg"/>
Also see- http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23190/ & http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23191/
The feature had to be turned off as default .
The original musics may be affected in a similar way to that of sound equalizer , some people may like and other may not . But the audio sensational enhancement will be different and superior to that of an equalizer .
Configure Ubuntu Programs During Installation
Written by Klau3 the 27 Jan 10 at 20:15.
Related project: Live CD installer .
Won't implement
Installation process should give people the choice to select some standard programms.
Someone using Thunderbird as mail client doesn't need Evolution...
It is not about installing all kinds of programms during the installation process, but about selecting the most common programms easily.
The other thing is that a lot of people don't know that ubuntu can play DVD videos, because they just don't know about libdvdcss2, “ubuntu restricted extras” and how to install them.
Example: my parents cannot install libdvdcss2 without my help. This should change!
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Solution #3:
Configurate Ubuntu Programms During Installation
Written by
nhandler the 27 Jan 10 at 23:27.
Integrate one more step into the installation process to enable a 'light weight' program selection and system pre-configuration
<img src="http://justoneidea.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mockup-configurate-ubuntu-programms.png">
Integrate one more step into the installation process to enable a 'light weight' program selection and system pre-configuration
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Solution #4:
But hide it under "Advanced" button!
Written by
Int_ua the 28 Jan 10 at 00:28.
Because it can make installation process harder to understand for nonexpert users.
Because it can make installation process harder to understand for nonexpert users.
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Solution #5:
Put it under Software Configuration
Written by
vvfrn2 the 28 Jan 10 at 03:07.
not advanced option
not advanced option
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Solution #6:
Include a 'none' option
Written by
alms66 the 28 Jan 10 at 03:29.
A none option at each dropbox for those who will not use torrents, or notes, or those with no cd burners, etc.
A none option at each dropbox for those who will not use torrents, or notes, or those with no cd burners, etc.
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Solution #7:
Only propose Open Source Software
Written by
krs the 28 Jan 10 at 09:22.
For base Installation.
Or using Ubuntu is a non-sense.
For base Installation.
Or using Ubuntu is a non-sense.
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Solution #8:
Name's Category
Instead write: Brasero (CD / DVD Burning)
Write this: CD / DVD Burning
Instead write: Brasero (CD / DVD Burning)
Write this: CD / DVD Burning
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Solution #9:
Video drivers
Written by
Zorba the 3 Feb 10 at 09:39.
I think it's a good idea to insert an option "install video card driver"... more or less the idea is to integrate jockey in the installation program, so users can install the system with the right video driver (if they want).
I think it's a good idea to insert an option "install video card driver"... more or less the idea is to integrate jockey in the installation program, so users can install the system with the right video driver (if they want).
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Solution #10:
Add more stuff to "more information"
Written by
tommis the 3 Feb 10 at 19:42.
Add more to information box stuff like:
license
programs homepage
hard drive space needed
homepage
Add more to information box stuff like:
license
programs homepage
hard drive space needed
homepage
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Solution #11:
Add install your own software.
Written by
tommis the 3 Feb 10 at 19:56.
Theres so many programs at you cannot just but all in such a little list. Add option install your own packapages from ubuntus servers or your chosen ppa.
Theres so many programs at you cannot just but all in such a little list. Add option install your own packapages from ubuntus servers or your chosen ppa.
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Solution #12:
Make it part of Ubuntu Software Center
Add a new item in the sidebar of the Ubuntu Software Center called "Favorite Applications". The information about the alternatives could be simply added through debtags.
Add a new item in the sidebar of the Ubuntu Software Center called "Favorite Applications". The information about the alternatives could be simply added through debtags.
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Solution #13:
adapt your own software
We all may have pet programs that worked well under other linux distributions. It'd be nice if they could be automatically configured to play nice with Ubuntu setups or run in protected areas.
We all may have pet programs that worked well under other linux distributions. It'd be nice if they could be automatically configured to play nice with Ubuntu setups or run in protected areas.
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Solution #14:
Optional Microsoft Application Compatibility
I know this sounds like heresy, but Ubuntu already has this in the repositories. Why not make it easier for new Ubuntu users to run their Windows applications. That's one of the biggest complaints I've heard. A lot of people don't know they can use WINE without digging around on the net. There's a lot who never know they have the option. Have the option to install WINE in the Configure Ubuntu Programs tool at first boot. I think this is crucial.
I know this sounds like heresy, but Ubuntu already has this in the repositories. Why not make it easier for new Ubuntu users to run their Windows applications. That's one of the biggest complaints I've heard. A lot of people don't know they can use WINE without digging around on the net. There's a lot who never know they have the option. Have the option to install WINE in the Configure Ubuntu Programs tool at first boot. I think this is crucial.
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Solution #15:
Autorun installation software
To include all this software in the ISO will be too big for a CD size. If you don't want to include them into the ISO you have to have a Internet connection enabled during the installation, and it's not always possible, so after you have installad Ubuntu the system will automaticly install them from internet.
To include all this software in the ISO will be too big for a CD size. If you don't want to include them into the ISO you have to have a Internet connection enabled during the installation, and it's not always possible, so after you have installad Ubuntu the system will automaticly install them from internet.
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Solution #16:
not enough space, internet and other problems
Written by
Goury the 12 Feb 10 at 10:54.
there is no problems to include this one to DVD
also there is one more thing needed - ability to install more than one app of any type
there is tons of ppls who uses chromium AND firefox because first is fast and second sometimes shows pages more accurate and have more extensions
also: do not include opera and chrome. include chromium and some other free (as freedom, not as beer) browsers
there is no problems to include this one to DVD
also there is one more thing needed - ability to install more than one app of any type
there is tons of ppls who uses chromium AND firefox because first is fast and second sometimes shows pages more accurate and have more extensions
also: do not include opera and chrome. include chromium and some other free (as freedom, not as beer) browsers
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Solution #17:
Optional Install updated system and/or packages
Add also during installation, the capability to install updated system and/or software packages (so we don't have to do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade as first thing to do after the first boot and then we have to do another reboot...). So the system is updated out of the box
Add also during installation, the capability to install updated system and/or software packages (so we don't have to do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade as first thing to do after the first boot and then we have to do another reboot...). So the system is updated out of the box
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Solution #18:
add network-manager plugins here
Written by
Goury the 13 Feb 10 at 08:17.
90% russian internets is pptp vpn so option pptp must include needed packages to pptp-vpn plugin works in network manager (its stable enough)
many ppl in europes uses some oter vpn (i am not sure) so option to install oter vpn type is needed too
a lot of peoples uses wifis or something else to interneting
and we all know that ubuntu without internet is 99% dualbooting to windows or uninstalling - ubuntu MUST HAVE internet after installation so all interneting packages must be included at least to dvd, but on cd is good too AND thete must be option to install them - its very difficult task to noobs to install vpn or something else packages
90% russian internets is pptp vpn so option pptp must include needed packages to pptp-vpn plugin works in network manager (its stable enough)
many ppl in europes uses some oter vpn (i am not sure) so option to install oter vpn type is needed too
a lot of peoples uses wifis or something else to interneting
and we all know that ubuntu without internet is 99% dualbooting to windows or uninstalling - ubuntu MUST HAVE internet after installation so all interneting packages must be included at least to dvd, but on cd is good too AND thete must be option to install them - its very difficult task to noobs to install vpn or something else packages
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Solution #19:
will hard from the new experience user
Written by
taufiksu the 14 Feb 10 at 12:09.
i think it is not important to implement because it will hard to choose the app when new ubuntu user install the ubuntu.
i think it is not important to implement because it will hard to choose the app when new ubuntu user install the ubuntu.
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Solution #20:
Choose kernel type
Written by
pkslot the 16 Feb 10 at 15:46.
Why not let people choose what kernel to install, vanilla, rt or what their prefrences are.
Why not let people choose what kernel to install, vanilla, rt or what their prefrences are.
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Solution #21:
Solution #3, but also include option to choose Office suite
Some people (including me) have a personal preference for certain Office suites. Include a chance to choose the preferred suite (OpenOffice by default) would also be interesting. The options could be KOffice, Lotus Symphony, etc..
Integrated to Solution #12, the idea is even more complete: Accessing "Favorite Applications", the User can change your kit software more easily after you install the OS. For example, to change the option favorite browser "Firefox" to "Google Chrome", the Software Center automatically uninstall Firefox and install Chrome, making it the default browser. Happen the same way with the other favorite applications.
In case if the User wants to keep the two browsers (Firefox and Chrome), usually just select the Software Center - as is currently done - so both will be installed. Then just go to "Favorite Applications" and switch to Chrome, which is already installed - Firefox would remain, but the Chrome would be the primary browser.
Some people (including me) have a personal preference for certain Office suites. Include a chance to choose the preferred suite (OpenOffice by default) would also be interesting. The options could be KOffice, Lotus Symphony, etc..
Integrated to Solution #12, the idea is even more complete: Accessing "Favorite Applications", the User can change your kit software more easily after you install the OS. For example, to change the option favorite browser "Firefox" to "Google Chrome", the Software Center automatically uninstall Firefox and install Chrome, making it the default browser. Happen the same way with the other favorite applications.
In case if the User wants to keep the two browsers (Firefox and Chrome), usually just select the Software Center - as is currently done - so both will be installed. Then just go to "Favorite Applications" and switch to Chrome, which is already installed - Firefox would remain, but the Chrome would be the primary browser.
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Solution #22:
Provide net isntall cd
Written by
tommis the 18 Feb 10 at 19:05.
Also provide option to net isntall wich don`t have programs includet. This would prevent users from downloading packpages what they do not conna use.
Also provide option to net isntall wich don`t have programs includet. This would prevent users from downloading packpages what they do not conna use.
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Solution #23:
That menu suits "prefered applications"
That menu should meet the eye in "preferred applications". simple for noobs, when selecting an option not currently installed, user should be prompted replace(remove a install b) or side-by install(install b).
At least the coding should be easy.
That menu should meet the eye in "preferred applications". simple for noobs, when selecting an option not currently installed, user should be prompted replace(remove a install b) or side-by install(install b).
At least the coding should be easy.
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Solution #24:
Add a theme menu
Written by
Niels_ the 22 Feb 10 at 16:29.
Just like the other options, add a menu for themes.
So people can choose their favourite standard theme at instsall.
Just like the other options, add a menu for themes.
So people can choose their favourite standard theme at instsall.
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Solution #25:
Give some warning for low disk space systems
Written by
dreamr the 23 Feb 10 at 12:16.
In addition to the "more information", give some indication of space left after installing all the applications. Can be just passive indicator that the user sees while making choices. Useful for systems with low memory, like netbooks with SSD.
In addition to the "more information", give some indication of space left after installing all the applications. Can be just passive indicator that the user sees while making choices. Useful for systems with low memory, like netbooks with SSD.
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Solution #26:
Not during installation, but in the Welcome Screen
I believe that this option for adding software during OS install that cannot possibly fit on a CD medium, and therefore necessitates internet connection, could end up in a failed install process if the connection fails, as could happen with a 3G connection during bad weather conditions.
I certainly agree that the options presented in Solution #3 should be presented to the user in an informative manner - who, especially if new to linux, would otherwise have no clue what to do to be able to watch a DVD, for example - but not during OS install, but integrated in the Welcome Window that appears at the first login, maybe having a link in it to the Add/Remove Software, which, in turn should have these options on a main page.
I believe that this option for adding software during OS install that cannot possibly fit on a CD medium, and therefore necessitates internet connection, could end up in a failed install process if the connection fails, as could happen with a 3G connection during bad weather conditions.
I certainly agree that the options presented in Solution #3 should be presented to the user in an informative manner - who, especially if new to linux, would otherwise have no clue what to do to be able to watch a DVD, for example - but not during OS install, but integrated in the Welcome Window that appears at the first login, maybe having a link in it to the Add/Remove Software, which, in turn should have these options on a main page.
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Solution #27:
Store Favourite Applications List on Ubuntu One
'Path' suggested "A list of favorite packages could be useful to put up on ubuntu one?"
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/109518
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Solution #28:
Choose the applications from the website before download
Written by
thipv the 9 May 10 at 23:12.
It would make the process more flexible letting us to choose the programs before getting the iso, creating a customized image. You would select everything from the system architecture (32, 64, ppc, arm...) to desktop environment (gnome, kde, xfce, lxde...) or special environments (moblin based, netbook remix...), suggesting their default applications for each one, and let you change or remove them and choose additional programs, even restricted ones, informing the restrictions.
This would also be good because you would always be getting the most updated packages.
It would make the process more flexible letting us to choose the programs before getting the iso, creating a customized image. You would select everything from the system architecture (32, 64, ppc, arm...) to desktop environment (gnome, kde, xfce, lxde...) or special environments (moblin based, netbook remix...), suggesting their default applications for each one, and let you change or remove them and choose additional programs, even restricted ones, informing the restrictions.
This would also be good because you would always be getting the most updated packages.
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Solution #29:
Solution #3, #21, #23 ... + User choise
Written by
JasLicno the 12 May 10 at 23:26.
User should decide which program will use.solution is simple:
Configure programs during installation:
1. button - ubuntu suggested
2. button - user defined ... list of all available programs
+ (because is impossible to have that big source of programs)
after installing, program that will give you option to make a clone of your installation, so next instalation of your system will be faster and with 100% personal programs. (this is not my idea, I have read about this as option in one of linux distributions)
User should decide which program will use.solution is simple:
Configure programs during installation:
1. button - ubuntu suggested
2. button - user defined ... list of all available programs
+ (because is impossible to have that big source of programs)
after installing, program that will give you option to make a clone of your installation, so next instalation of your system will be faster and with 100% personal programs. (this is not my idea, I have read about this as option in one of linux distributions)
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Solution #30:
enable account transfer
enable a way of saving account details to ubuntu one so that one can transfer all your accounts (yahoo, hotmail,gmail icq... irc... jabber.. everything) to the new machine this will help with setting up of new machines - like if someone has a laptop, web book and other machines, they really down want to have to set up all the different accounts multiple times. i'm not suggesting emails as this is too much data but enabling people to sync account details, and passwords would be good and improve ubuntu installs
enable a way of saving account details to ubuntu one so that one can transfer all your accounts (yahoo, hotmail,gmail icq... irc... jabber.. everything) to the new machine this will help with setting up of new machines - like if someone has a laptop, web book and other machines, they really down want to have to set up all the different accounts multiple times. i'm not suggesting emails as this is too much data but enabling people to sync account details, and passwords would be good and improve ubuntu installs
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Solution #31:
In advanced installation mode
Written by
mackuz the 17 May 11 at 06:55.
If even #4 is too hard for some users, #1 can be added in advanced installation mode.
It's actual again, 'cause even if Thunderbird will become default mail app in Ubuntu, some corporative users will need Evolution anyway.
If even #4 is too hard for some users, #1 can be added in advanced installation mode.
It's actual again, 'cause even if Thunderbird will become default mail app in Ubuntu, some corporative users will need Evolution anyway.
Move the min, max, close buttons back to the right in 10.04
Written by readmanr the 6 Mar 10 at 21:00.
Related project: Gnome .
Won't implement
In Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 Alpha3 we have a new default theme, however the Minimise, Maximise and Close buttons have been moved from the top right, to the top left.
(see the image at the bottom)
This was a poor choice for the following reasons...
- If clicking at the top menu (File , View, Help etc) the close buttons are VERY Close, accidents can happen.
- There used to be a tiny dot in the top left, which had in its menu, Min, Max, Move, Always on Top, and Close (So why move the Min, Max, Close buttons to the left?
- Migrating Windows and Mac users will be used to having them at the right, which is a huge usability jump)
Changes like this should be an optional choice, while it is possible to manually edit the theme, it should not be the default for an LTS release.
src:
http://blog.daviey.com/blogroll/anything-but-the-buttons.html
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Solution #1:
Move the Min, Max, Close buttons back to the Right for the 10.04 Release.
Written by
readmanr the 6 Mar 10 at 21:00.
Move the buttons back over to the top right for the final Ubuntu 10.04 release.
Move the buttons back over to the top right for the final Ubuntu 10.04 release.
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Solution #3:
Mirror for the left
Written by
Akerbos the 6 Mar 10 at 21:38.
I think it is most intuitive if the buttons are ordered the same in relation to the window center ("To close, click the outermost button"), so
Right: min-max-close
relates to
Left: close-max-min
I think it is most intuitive if the buttons are ordered the same in relation to the window center ("To close, click the outermost button"), so
Right: min-max-close
relates to
Left: close-max-min
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Solution #4:
Why not have them on both sides?
I think having the buttons on both sides would also be a viable option. I understand that this would detract visually from the simplicity, but maybe if the buttons were subdued until the mouse hovers over the bar?
(I feel less than confident about this solution, but thought it needed mentioning.)
I think having the buttons on both sides would also be a viable option. I understand that this would detract visually from the simplicity, but maybe if the buttons were subdued until the mouse hovers over the bar?
(I feel less than confident about this solution, but thought it needed mentioning.)
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Solution #5:
let's user choose,
In xubuntu, user cas can choose where are the button on the titlebar.
In xubuntu, user cas can choose where are the button on the titlebar.
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Solution #6:
Drag & Drop
Written by
la_serpe the 7 Mar 10 at 16:29.
It can be movable so the user could change it intuitively
It can be movable so the user could change it intuitively
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Solution #7:
By default have it in right,but include option in theme, customize, to drag&Drop
Well the title pretty much says it...Default is to have it on right, but to include an option in "Change Desktop Background" >> Theme >> Customize, to move the buttons to a user defined position.
Well the title pretty much says it...Default is to have it on right, but to include an option in "Change Desktop Background" >> Theme >> Customize, to move the buttons to a user defined position.
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Solution #8:
make the default alignment theme-dependent
Written by
marvo the 10 Mar 10 at 10:28.
There are some themes that look better when the buttons are placed on the left side (like Ambiance, Radiance and Gorilla) and there are some themes that look better with the buttons being on the right side (like Glider, Human, Clearlooks or SphereCrystal).
So i propose to set the default alignment depending on the chosen theme and make it easily switchable.
The current way to change the alignment of the buttons back to the right by typing
gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
is a bit tedious.
There are some themes that look better when the buttons are placed on the left side (like Ambiance, Radiance and Gorilla) and there are some themes that look better with the buttons being on the right side (like Glider, Human, Clearlooks or SphereCrystal).
So i propose to set the default alignment depending on the chosen theme and make it easily switchable.
The current way to change the alignment of the buttons back to the right by typing
gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
is a bit tedious.
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Solution #9:
Put Close button in the corner
Written by
Lex the 10 Mar 10 at 11:04.
Put Close button in the corner - depending on chosen solution will be left or right corner or window.
Put Close button in the corner - depending on chosen solution will be left or right corner or window.
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Solution #11:
Put close on right, min/max on left
Written by
euxneks the 11 Mar 10 at 01:31.
I think that Minimize and Maximize are more similar to the menu anyway, so put them on the left, and put the close button on the right, this harkens back to the days of old Unix and I think would still allow the theme to stand out.
I think that Minimize and Maximize are more similar to the menu anyway, so put them on the left, and put the close button on the right, this harkens back to the days of old Unix and I think would still allow the theme to stand out.
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Solution #13:
More Windows-like behaviour
Written by
i386dx the 14 Mar 10 at 12:50.
Move the Min, Max and Close-buttons back to the right.
Be able to close a window by double-clicking the window-icon at the left. This is much faster than clicking the icon and selecting 'Close' in the menu.
Move the Min, Max and Close-buttons back to the right.
Be able to close a window by double-clicking the window-icon at the left. This is much faster than clicking the icon and selecting 'Close' in the menu.
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Solution #14:
Keep default left Minimize, Maximise/Resize & Close Buttons
Rationale: In VirtualBox without Guest Additions, the right-hand side of the desktop and the lower part of the desktop are not visible until you scroll. Having the above-mentioned buttons on the top-left side of the window by default makes them accessible when (not if) Guest Additions do not work/are unavailable or when scrolling for whatever reason does not work. This is especially true for development versions.
I _am_ in favor of choice, so this should be fairly easy for a user to change (preferably by GUI) to right, left or both.
Just my opinion.
Rationale: In VirtualBox without Guest Additions, the right-hand side of the desktop and the lower part of the desktop are not visible until you scroll. Having the above-mentioned buttons on the top-left side of the window by default makes them accessible when (not if) Guest Additions do not work/are unavailable or when scrolling for whatever reason does not work. This is especially true for development versions.
I _am_ in favor of choice, so this should be fairly easy for a user to change (preferably by GUI) to right, left or both.
Just my opinion.
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Solution #16:
Leave the buttons on the right until 10.10
Written by
neblogas the 16 Mar 10 at 15:58.
Because Mark said that in 10.10 the windows will have something new in the right side, but now, there is no need to change the buttons, and this is LTS release! in 10.10 when you will finish the new mysteriuos window features on the right then you can put the buttons on the left. As I said, there is no need now to change. Its an LTS release and the people and companies won't change until the next LTS, so there won't be for them new mysteriuos windows features on the right!
Because Mark said that in 10.10 the windows will have something new in the right side, but now, there is no need to change the buttons, and this is LTS release! in 10.10 when you will finish the new mysteriuos window features on the right then you can put the buttons on the left. As I said, there is no need now to change. Its an LTS release and the people and companies won't change until the next LTS, so there won't be for them new mysteriuos windows features on the right!
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Solution #17:
Place a checkbox in the Appearance menu: Left / Right
Yes the button location can be changed via Terminal, but for the average user...the Terminal can be a bit scary. I think it would be appropriate to place a simple option in the Appearance Preferences window.
Something like this:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40647960/window_controls_position_gui.png
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Solution #18:
Top Horizontial Bar moved the the Left or Right as Vertical Bar
Written by
ichido the 17 Mar 10 at 17:53.
Move the Top Bar to the Right Side-Vertical Bar and the Bottom Bar would be on the Left Side Vertical.
This would allow for more Vertical Space.
The user would be able to Swap the Left Bar with the Right Bar and also the Size/Thickness of the Bars.
Applications could maintain the Top Bar or a Side or a Bottom bar for their Window.
Move the Top Bar to the Right Side-Vertical Bar and the Bottom Bar would be on the Left Side Vertical.
This would allow for more Vertical Space.
The user would be able to Swap the Left Bar with the Right Bar and also the Size/Thickness of the Bars.
Applications could maintain the Top Bar or a Side or a Bottom bar for their Window.
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Solution #19:
Replace the menubar with an icon
Written by
Wiplash4 the 19 Mar 10 at 12:17.
Hello
I would like to add one idea: Replace the menubar (File, Edit, View, etc.), which can be found in every window, with an icon and put that icon into the titlebar. It worked out for my terminal.
Regards
Hello
I would like to add one idea: Replace the menubar (File, Edit, View, etc.), which can be found in every window, with an icon and put that icon into the titlebar. It worked out for my terminal.
Regards
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Solution #23:
Merge Statusbar into titlebar
Written by
Wiplash4 the 19 Mar 10 at 16:40.
I figured out that the status bar is only filled up to 1 / 4. Why not put those messages displayed in the status bar in the title bar?
I figured out that the status bar is only filled up to 1 / 4. Why not put those messages displayed in the status bar in the title bar?
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Solution #24:
Modify all applications consistently
Written by
a_pirard the 20 Mar 10 at 03:14.
Modify all applications to be consistent with Lucid : move all close buttons to the left, for example, OpenOffice document close, Firefox tab close, File Explorer side pane close, etc... etc...
Modify all applications to be consistent with Lucid : move all close buttons to the left, for example, OpenOffice document close, Firefox tab close, File Explorer side pane close, etc... etc...
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Solution #26:
Instead of corner, make it POSSIBLE to place buttons in the MIDDLE.
Instead of corner, make it POSSIBLE to place buttons in the MIDDLE.
I knew there is no such a solution according to "ewmh".
But, I guess most people have their cursor in the middle of a window for most of the time they using it.
Instead of corner, make it POSSIBLE to place buttons in the MIDDLE.
I knew there is no such a solution according to "ewmh".
But, I guess most people have their cursor in the middle of a window for most of the time they using it.
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Solution #27:
For longer term, how about a window manager merge?
Written by
LukeM33P the 25 Mar 10 at 01:13.
Compiz managers and decorators are already effective at options. Placing the Metacity and Kwin options in Emerald Decorator manager, which would be preinstalled, along with CCSM (or a custom replacement) would be the solution, with CCSM/replacement simplified to look like (in functionality and basic organization) the KDE settings manager, but using default schemes and such, of course.
For KDE users, alongside the CCSM/replacement, the interface would be integrated into the System Settings, just like the traditional settings.
The reason I propose this is because options, while not easy to find and configure (and why I propose the reorg) are very powerful. Setting up Metacity and KWin to show up as options and adding the appropriate settings, if necessary, seems to make sense (to me) as a long-term solution. The operating system needs to seem as encompassing as KDE or even more so, and combining these options so that the system is even more universal would be a step towards this.
An addition to the application of managing the system title bar like the KDE or GNOME dashboards would be similarly useful, and may be all of this potential solution that should be used. Default should stay in line with last-gen human theme, even if the colors and buttons look different.
Compiz managers and decorators are already effective at options. Placing the Metacity and Kwin options in Emerald Decorator manager, which would be preinstalled, along with CCSM (or a custom replacement) would be the solution, with CCSM/replacement simplified to look like (in functionality and basic organization) the KDE settings manager, but using default schemes and such, of course.
For KDE users, alongside the CCSM/replacement, the interface would be integrated into the System Settings, just like the traditional settings.
The reason I propose this is because options, while not easy to find and configure (and why I propose the reorg) are very powerful. Setting up Metacity and KWin to show up as options and adding the appropriate settings, if necessary, seems to make sense (to me) as a long-term solution. The operating system needs to seem as encompassing as KDE or even more so, and combining these options so that the system is even more universal would be a step towards this.
An addition to the application of managing the system title bar like the KDE or GNOME dashboards would be similarly useful, and may be all of this potential solution that should be used. Default should stay in line with last-gen human theme, even if the colors and buttons look different.
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Solution #28:
adopt the XFCE placement approach in Gnome appearence prefs
Written by
2cute4u the 25 Mar 10 at 03:37.
XFCE has for many years had a very easy convient way to configure the placment of titlebar buttons. See.http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#wm-settings
It would not be too difficult to add somethng like this to gnome; that way everyone can be happy.
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Solution #29:
Have the buttons on both sides AND hide them.
Have the min, max, close buttons on both sides of the title bar, but hide them. The only time they should show is on mouseover of the bar, but depending on which side you mouseover decides which side the buttons show.
For example, cursor closer to the left side? Mouse over the top-left and the buttons will appear. Vice-versa for the right side.
Have the min, max, close buttons on both sides of the title bar, but hide them. The only time they should show is on mouseover of the bar, but depending on which side you mouseover decides which side the buttons show.
For example, cursor closer to the left side? Mouse over the top-left and the buttons will appear. Vice-versa for the right side.
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Solution #30:
choice where in the Instalation
make apear a messagebox in the begining of the instalation asking where do we want to have those buttons, coz personally I love the new mac style, but considering the ubuntu objectives, it's a good option to let the users choice.
make apear a messagebox in the begining of the instalation asking where do we want to have those buttons, coz personally I love the new mac style, but considering the ubuntu objectives, it's a good option to let the users choice.
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Solution #34:
Let user chose on the First Run, after installation.
Written by
darkham the 29 Mar 10 at 08:23.
Let user chose on the First Run, after installation.
Let user chose on the First Run, after installation.
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Solution #35:
Press [middle-mouse-button] whilst the cursor is over the window border
Written by
tomjb24 the 3 Apr 10 at 09:25.
Hover over the window border, click the middle mouse button, scroll to choose (close, minimise, maximise)
Hover over the window border, click the middle mouse button, scroll to choose (close, minimise, maximise)
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Solution #36:
Create Another Ubuntu. Call it "UbuntuRewind"
Written by
rrnwexec the 3 Apr 10 at 20:26.
Create a version of Ubuntu for those who like the (standard) Ubuntu desktop's "look and feel" just the way it is. Solicit Mark's (SABDFL) endorsement.
Enjoy how growingly quaint it feels as time passes by!
Create a version of Ubuntu for those who like the (standard) Ubuntu desktop's "look and feel" just the way it is. Solicit Mark's (SABDFL) endorsement.
Enjoy how growingly quaint it feels as time passes by!
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Solution #37:
Make Mac Styled menu bar
Written by
jase21 the 4 Apr 10 at 11:54.
Make Mac styled menu bar which is available in KDE. The current active windows menu appears on the bar. So no accidental closing of windows.
Or move the window control buttons to the right.
Make Mac styled menu bar which is available in KDE. The current active windows menu appears on the bar. So no accidental closing of windows.
Or move the window control buttons to the right.
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Solution #38:
Allow the option to be changed in installation slideshow and in minimal install
Please note that this is not an idea for the imminent release of 10.04, but would be better included in the next update ISO.
Experienced users already know how to change the buttons back to the original location, so server installations shouldn't be so much of a problem.
For absolute beginner users, the first slide in the installation slideshow could be one explaining the benefits of having the buttons on the left side and asking the user to choose what they could like to do.
In the minimal install, it would also be easy to add a simple option (most users using the minimal install are probably fairly experienced).
This would solve the real issue here: beginners possibly not using Ubuntu at all because it changes something.
Please note that this is not an idea for the imminent release of 10.04, but would be better included in the next update ISO.
Experienced users already know how to change the buttons back to the original location, so server installations shouldn't be so much of a problem.
For absolute beginner users, the first slide in the installation slideshow could be one explaining the benefits of having the buttons on the left side and asking the user to choose what they could like to do.
In the minimal install, it would also be easy to add a simple option (most users using the minimal install are probably fairly experienced).
This would solve the real issue here: beginners possibly not using Ubuntu at all because it changes something.
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Solution #39:
found an easy fix
I found this extremely easy fix how to move the min, max, and close buttons back to the right side.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
Even I was able to follow these directions and make it happen!
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Solution #40:
To the right by default, but an option to move them to the left.
Written by
turbolad the 5 Jul 10 at 15:42.
As per title. Buttons to the right by default, with an option to move to the left.
Don't forget to keep the little circle, which when clicked on, has options such as "Always On Top", "Move to Workspace Right" etc. These options should never be removed and I think the 3 buttons should be on the right by default, as most newbies are familiar with that setup.
As per title. Buttons to the right by default, with an option to move to the left.
Don't forget to keep the little circle, which when clicked on, has options such as "Always On Top", "Move to Workspace Right" etc. These options should never be removed and I think the 3 buttons should be on the right by default, as most newbies are familiar with that setup.
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Solution #41:
Put min, max, close buttons in a completely new position
Fisrt of all, sorry for my English.
Why we really needs buttons to the right? Well theres no real difference between having your buttons on the left or on the right, its just a matter of have the enough time to get used to one position or another.
But what about if we have these button in a complete new position.
What about having min, max, close buttons on the right BUT in the lower side of the windows instead of the upper side.
If you think about it, when you open a document or a web-page, you need to scroll down to really knows if that document is what you are looking for. When a document is too long, you need to use the scroll down arrow. So your mouse-arrow will be closer to the lower right of the window instead of the upper side of the window.
If you want to look to a minimize window that you think it would be not useful anymore, you need to un-minimize this window. If the buttons are in the lower right of the window it will be needed much less movement of your hand to close it after un-minimize because the close button will be closer to the task bar.
As you see there are some reason to have buttons in the lower side of the window BUT I know there are others to have this buttons on others positions.
So, why not to put this buttons in a completely new position.
This could be a ubuntu-only-feature just like the recycle bin in the task bar is a ubuntu-only-feature.
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Fisrt of all, sorry for my English.
Why we really needs buttons to the right? Well theres no real difference between having your buttons on the left or on the right, its just a matter of have the enough time to get used to one position or another.
But what about if we have these button in a complete new position.
What about having min, max, close buttons on the right BUT in the lower side of the windows instead of the upper side.
If you think about it, when you open a document or a web-page, you need to scroll down to really knows if that document is what you are looking for. When a document is too long, you need to use the scroll down arrow. So your mouse-arrow will be closer to the lower right of the window instead of the upper side of the window.
If you want to look to a minimize window that you think it would be not useful anymore, you need to un-minimize this window. If the buttons are in the lower right of the window it will be needed much less movement of your hand to close it after un-minimize because the close button will be closer to the task bar.
As you see there are some reason to have buttons in the lower side of the window BUT I know there are others to have this buttons on others positions.
So, why not to put this buttons in a completely new position.
This could be a ubuntu-only-feature just like the recycle bin in the task bar is a ubuntu-only-feature.
Resume from suspend/hibernate without password
Written by DawnLight the 21 Apr 09 at 13:57.
Related project: Gnome .
New
Dear friends,
I think that it would be comfortable for users to be able to set an option that disables the need for entering the users' password when resuming from hibernation.
My desktop computer is in my room, where only people whom I trust enter. So in my case, and in other user's cases, I imagine, either no one has physical access to the computer while it's suspended/hibernated or only trusted people have. So having this option will be nice.
Many blessings.
Solution #1:
Configuration option to not ask for password
Implement a configuration option in an appropriate location for this matter.
Implement a configuration option in an appropriate location for this matter.
Solution #2:
Check box in confirmation dialog
When the suspend/hibernate is pressed, display a dialog confirming the action and put a "Ask for password when resuming" check box in it.
In the first time it will be seen, the check box will be checked. After that the default will be whatever the user selected last time. When suspend/hibernate is triggered by a process and not a user it will ask for password when resuming.
When the suspend/hibernate is pressed, display a dialog confirming the action and put a "Ask for password when resuming" check box in it.
In the first time it will be seen, the check box will be checked. After that the default will be whatever the user selected last time. When suspend/hibernate is triggered by a process and not a user it will ask for password when resuming.
Solution #3:
Remember check box status
Written by
andruk the 24 Apr 09 at 04:44.
If this becomes an option on the suspend/hibernate dialog, I don't think people will rapidly change this option throughout the day. If it becomes an option, have Ubuntu remember the last selection, so the next time the user suspends/hibernates their previously selected option is chosen. If they want to change it, they can.
If this becomes an option on the suspend/hibernate dialog, I don't think people will rapidly change this option throughout the day. If it becomes an option, have Ubuntu remember the last selection, so the next time the user suspends/hibernates their previously selected option is chosen. If they want to change it, they can.
Solution #4:
Configuration option according to autologon settings by default
Written by
Futal the 21 Nov 10 at 18:25.
Implement a configuration option and by default, set autologon after standby/hibernate if autologon is on at boot.
Implement a configuration option and by default, set autologon after standby/hibernate if autologon is on at boot.
Make panel work better with multiple monitors
Written by bryhoyt the 21 Apr 09 at 20:33.
Related project: Gnome .
New
Currently, the panels appear at the top of whichever monitor is the primary monitor. That's ok, but it's a pain when you're using a program on your second monitor and you search around for the panel and it's not there! Only to realize that it's on the other screen.
Solution #1:
"Duplicate this panel on other monitors" option
Written by
bryhoyt the 21 Apr 09 at 20:33.
In the right-click menu of each panel, have an option to make the same panel appear on other screens, when they exist.
In the right-click menu of each panel, have an option to make the same panel appear on other screens, when they exist.
Solution #2:
Allow panel to be moved permanently to other monitor
Written by
bryhoyt the 21 Apr 09 at 20:38.
You can currently create a new panel and drag it to the second monitor. But if you use a laptop that's not permanently connected to another monitor, as soon as you disable the second monitor, the panel returns to your primary monitor and doesn't go back to the second one when you re-enable it.
If you could mark a panel as "Permanently associated with this monitor", that would help matters significantly.
You can currently create a new panel and drag it to the second monitor. But if you use a laptop that's not permanently connected to another monitor, as soon as you disable the second monitor, the panel returns to your primary monitor and doesn't go back to the second one when you re-enable it.
If you could mark a panel as "Permanently associated with this monitor", that would help matters significantly.
Solution #3:
Same as Solution #1, but only show windows on current screen
This is the same solution as #1, but instead of showing all windows on all screens (on the current virtual desktop), only show the windows on the current screen. If a windows spans both screens the do something useful like display it on both. This of course would be an option.
This is the same solution as #1, but instead of showing all windows on all screens (on the current virtual desktop), only show the windows on the current screen. If a windows spans both screens the do something useful like display it on both. This of course would be an option.
Solution #4:
Have the panels span monitors
Written by
andruk the 24 Apr 09 at 04:50.
Having two panels on each monitor means that the right edge of the panel on the left screen and the left edge of the panel on the right screen will be "touching", meaning that "Fitt" size of the touching buttons is much smaller (from infinite size to their normal size - look up Fitt's law). This completely defeats the point of putting any panel buttons in the corners, so just have an *option* to have the panels span the monitors. Look up Fitt's law and how it applies to screen corners for more information and rationale.
This can still work at different resolutions. Simply make the spanned panel/s have the same heighth/width (depending on orientation) on each screen.
Having two panels on each monitor means that the right edge of the panel on the left screen and the left edge of the panel on the right screen will be "touching", meaning that "Fitt" size of the touching buttons is much smaller (from infinite size to their normal size - look up Fitt's law). This completely defeats the point of putting any panel buttons in the corners, so just have an *option* to have the panels span the monitors. Look up Fitt's law and how it applies to screen corners for more information and rationale.
This can still work at different resolutions. Simply make the spanned panel/s have the same heighth/width (depending on orientation) on each screen.
New users tell that Ubuntu is slow (live sessions)
Written by zwyber the 8 Mar 09 at 19:55.
Related project: Live CD .
Won't implement
I tell my friends and family about Ubuntu and most of them come back telling me that Ubuntu makes their PC run very slow. They didn't know that you had to install Ubuntu to get the true speed.
I think that many people may encounter this problem, because when you run a live session it really just looks like it is installed. Because of the speed these users don't want to use Ubuntu and tell everyone they know that it is very slow.
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Solution #1:
Show (extra) notification.
Written by
zwyber the 8 Mar 09 at 19:55.
Very plain and simple, show a (extra) notification, telling the user that they are running in a live session and that Ubuntu runs very slow now.
Why extra? If Ubuntu developers are going to create a welcome screen where they put this information some people are not going to read this. Just a small dialogue after the welcome screen has been closed would be nice.
OR
Put the message in the default wallpaper, easier but not really the best solution.
Very plain and simple, show a (extra) notification, telling the user that they are running in a live session and that Ubuntu runs very slow now.
Why extra? If Ubuntu developers are going to create a welcome screen where they put this information some people are not going to read this. Just a small dialogue after the welcome screen has been closed would be nice.
OR
Put the message in the default wallpaper, easier but not really the best solution.
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Solution #2:
Live CD Cloud
Use a Live CD "Cloud" if the computer is connected to the Internet to help increase speed. That way you have two sources of incoming data, the CD, and the Web.
Use a Live CD "Cloud" if the computer is connected to the Internet to help increase speed. That way you have two sources of incoming data, the CD, and the Web.
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Solution #3:
Use multiple CD Drives if possible
Some computers have more than one CD drive. Make it possible to use for example two disk drives each with an ubuntu CD. This could (as far as I know) double the speed, depending on the drive speeds.
Some computers have more than one CD drive. Make it possible to use for example two disk drives each with an ubuntu CD. This could (as far as I know) double the speed, depending on the drive speeds.
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Solution #4:
(Pre)cache executables on CD agressively
Written by
Cé the 13 Mar 09 at 12:24.
Cache the executable files on the CD very agressively.
Cache the data files a lot less.
If there's a lot of RAM, precache executable files, if possible all of them.
This will make the use of the CD (or a slow HD) a lot faster.
Cache the executable files on the CD very agressively.
Cache the data files a lot less.
If there's a lot of RAM, precache executable files, if possible all of them.
This will make the use of the CD (or a slow HD) a lot faster.
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Solution #5:
Grub option to load into memory
Some live CDs (like puppy for instance) have the option to load the OS into memory.
Provided there is enough RAM (2GB?) Allow users the option to load the OS into memory and to continue to boot from there.
Some live CDs (like puppy for instance) have the option to load the OS into memory.
Provided there is enough RAM (2GB?) Allow users the option to load the OS into memory and to continue to boot from there.
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Solution #6:
Don't run Compiz in LiveCD
Maybe integrate a checkbox to turn it on with Solution #1 above.
Maybe integrate a checkbox to turn it on with Solution #1 above.
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Solution #7:
Notify During OS Boot
Written by
Basem the 22 Mar 09 at 08:54.
While booting the OS, add a line that says "Enjoy ubuntu in full speed by installing it"
While booting the OS, add a line that says "Enjoy ubuntu in full speed by installing it"
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Solution #8:
As #1, keep notification visible
Written by
euxneks the 26 Mar 09 at 19:01.
I like the idea of letting them know that they are using a LiveCD on the desktop - we should also have interaction with it so that a user can get an idea of what a LiveCD is and why it's slower than the real system.
Once they close this, allow them the ability to open it again.
I like the idea of letting them know that they are using a LiveCD on the desktop - we should also have interaction with it so that a user can get an idea of what a LiveCD is and why it's slower than the real system.
Once they close this, allow them the ability to open it again.
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Solution #9:
Most users don't need all programs in live session
Written by
ahsaeed the 29 Mar 09 at 16:11.
When I use Ubuntu in live session i don't wont to play games for example .. and some users do..
So..
i recommend to add another option to the boot menu as an advanced option..
"select programs to load during live sessions " .
When I use Ubuntu in live session i don't wont to play games for example .. and some users do..
So..
i recommend to add another option to the boot menu as an advanced option..
"select programs to load during live sessions <to speedup the session>" .
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Solution #10:
Insert USB to improve performance
Everyone might not have 2 GB of RAM but everyone has a USB drive. Live sessions booted from CDs can be cached onto USB storage for improved performance.
Everyone might not have 2 GB of RAM but everyone has a USB drive. Live sessions booted from CDs can be cached onto USB storage for improved performance.
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Solution #11:
Promote bootable USB
Bootable USB images should be promoted rather than live CDs. Bootable USB drives can be prepared using software such as the one showed on
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick . Alternatively, the software that runs on Windows when an Ubuntu live CD is inserted should include such a functionality.
Bootable USB images should be promoted rather than live CDs. Bootable USB drives can be prepared using software such as the one showed on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick . Alternatively, the software that runs on Windows when an Ubuntu live CD is inserted should include such a functionality.
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Solution #12:
fast live session
Written by
Dorje the 2 Apr 09 at 22:10.
like solution #9 add an option to deselect unnecessary programmes and also give the percentage increase each unselection generates .
like for eg.
deselecting games =increase in speed 10%
and so on
PS:i don't know much about programmes so i dont know how much speed gain every (possible)deselection will generate
like solution #9 add an option to deselect unnecessary programmes and also give the percentage increase each unselection generates .
like for eg.
deselecting games =increase in speed 10%
and so on
PS:i don't know much about programmes so i dont know how much speed gain every (possible)deselection will generate
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Solution #13:
Use UnionFS to our advantage
Written by
deriamis the 4 Apr 09 at 18:40.
Since the majority of load times is in late-linking the libraries, why not have the often-used libraries in a ramdisk and use UnionFS to overlay those files on a path? In combination with pre-caching (#4), this could be a significant speed boost. If we combine it with using a LiveUSB distro (#11), we could be on par with the performance of the computer itself.
Since the majority of load times is in late-linking the libraries, why not have the often-used libraries in a ramdisk and use UnionFS to overlay those files on a path? In combination with pre-caching (#4), this could be a significant speed boost. If we combine it with using a LiveUSB distro (#11), we could be on par with the performance of the computer itself.
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Solution #14:
Add an option to create a live-usb from the autorun menu of the cd
Add an option for creating a live-usb to the autorun menu that pops up when mounting or inserting the cd/iso. Many people will use daemon-tool or similar to mount the cd in Windows, and if they see an option to create a live-usb from the popup menu, that would be a way of making it easier for everyone to do so.
Add an option for creating a live-usb to the autorun menu that pops up when mounting or inserting the cd/iso. Many people will use daemon-tool or similar to mount the cd in Windows, and if they see an option to create a live-usb from the popup menu, that would be a way of making it easier for everyone to do so.
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Solution #15:
Offer a tool for creating a live-usb in occasion with the download link
The title is self-descriptive. This would be another way of making it easier for people to find out about the possibility of creating a live-usb.
The title is self-descriptive. This would be another way of making it easier for people to find out about the possibility of creating a live-usb.
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Solution #16:
Instead of notification write it in the background.
Written by
ll the 6 Apr 09 at 03:52.
A modified background that includes a warning can be used instead of a notification. Many computers at universities that are meant for multiple users use the background to communicate a special procedure especially in libraries for catalogue searches. This will decrease confusion and not use as many resources as a notification (I assume).
A modified background that includes a warning can be used instead of a notification. Many computers at universities that are meant for multiple users use the background to communicate a special procedure especially in libraries for catalogue searches. This will decrease confusion and not use as many resources as a notification (I assume).
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Solution #17:
Install Ubuntu natively from within Windows
Make it possible to install a native Ubuntu installation from within Windows to another partition than the one running Windows from or to an USB-memory key, making it easier to install Ubuntu without having to boot into live mode.
Make it possible to install a native Ubuntu installation from within Windows to another partition than the one running Windows from or to an USB-memory key, making it easier to install Ubuntu without having to boot into live mode.
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Solution #18:
Calc & disp speed-up performance on log-out based on sys's characteristics
When running the live session I would guess the memory, processor, hard disk read/write speed (maybe not this one), etc. system hardware & performance are evaluated.
As well, when running a program (game, OpenOffice, etc.) the CD read/write & load time could stored. Thus, when the user ends the live session, in the log-out window list some statistics: "These are the 5 programs you used the most:
From the live CD it took X-amount of real-time to load, but based on your system's hardware, if this were installed, we would expect it would X% faster."
When running the live session I would guess the memory, processor, hard disk read/write speed (maybe not this one), etc. system hardware & performance are evaluated.
As well, when running a program (game, OpenOffice, etc.) the CD read/write & load time could stored. Thus, when the user ends the live session, in the log-out window list some statistics: "These are the 5 programs you used the most:
From the live CD it took X-amount of real-time to load, but based on your system's hardware, if this were installed, we would expect it would X% faster."
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Solution #19:
disabeling unnecessary services for the live-cd
Written by
moose the 14 Apr 09 at 08:08.
So the live-cd shouldn't start services which are not neccessary for testing ubuntu (as some people use the live-cd as a secure system, services like cups are neccessary):
# anachron, atd, cron: I never used a live-cd longer than six hours - why should I create a cronjob?
# acpid, acpi-support, apmd, powernowd, powernowd.early: If I use the live-cd, I want to test if my hardware works and if the software fits my expections, not if the sleep option works.
So the live-cd shouldn't start services which are not neccessary for testing ubuntu (as some people use the live-cd as a secure system, services like cups are neccessary):
# anachron, atd, cron: I never used a live-cd longer than six hours - why should I create a cronjob?
# acpid, acpi-support, apmd, powernowd, powernowd.early: If I use the live-cd, I want to test if my hardware works and if the software fits my expections, not if the sleep option works.
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Solution #20:
Solution #1 but sooner
Written by
Ssdg the 29 Apr 09 at 11:25.
My idea would be to tell it on the first screen (the one that offers you to test, install, etc...).
Like:
Try ubuntu without
Install on your hard drive for better performances
...
not by demoting the live CD mode, but by promoting the installation.
I'm not in advertisement, but ubuntu will look much better.
My idea would be to tell it on the first screen (the one that offers you to test, install, etc...).
Like:
Try ubuntu without
Install on your hard drive for better performances
...
not by demoting the live CD mode, but by promoting the installation.
I'm not in advertisement, but ubuntu will look much better.
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Solution #21:
Make user choose when downloading Ubuntu
Written by
chareos the 6 May 09 at 14:08.
Make the Ubuntu download to be an EXE file which lets user choose to create a LiveCD (with performance warning here) OR a LiveUSB.
Also, a performance warning on LiveCD boot itself would be great !
Make the Ubuntu download to be an EXE file which lets user choose to create a LiveCD (with performance warning here) OR a LiveUSB.
Also, a performance warning on LiveCD boot itself would be great !
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Solution #22:
Load LiveCD into temporary file
For systems with 1 GiB RAM or less, where solution #5 can't be applied, load the content of the CD in a virtual file system which could be located in a file on the computer's harddisk, i.e. create file on a existing ntfs-partition, an unpartitioned space or even use the m$-windows-swapspace.
For systems with 1 GiB RAM or less, where solution #5 can't be applied, load the content of the CD in a virtual file system which could be located in a file on the computer's harddisk, i.e. create file on a existing ntfs-partition, an unpartitioned space or even use the m$-windows-swapspace.
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Solution #23:
Put a note into the loading screen
Written by
Kver the 16 May 09 at 20:51.
When a live cd shows the loading bar, there's plenty of time for a message such as "Loading and running content from this DVD will result in slow performance, and changes or customizations will not be saved."
When a live cd shows the loading bar, there's plenty of time for a message such as "Loading and running content from this DVD will result in slow performance, and changes or customizations will not be saved."
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Solution #24:
Use the new notification system
Firstly, I think that many of the solutions above are solving the wrong problem. People that try out Ubuntu may think that it is installed by just inserting the CD. The user may have no idea that they are using a LiveCD. After they discover that Ubuntu is "slow", they give up and reboot back into Windows. Notifying the user that they haven't installed Ubuntu yet would be the best way to solve this problem.
Utilize the new notification system. Have it simply display a message when the desktop has finished loading similar to:
Ubuntu is not installed yet! Feel free to use Ubuntu before installing it, but beware that it may be a little slow. If you like what you see click the install icon on your desktop!
Firstly, I think that many of the solutions above are solving the wrong problem. People that try out Ubuntu may think that it is installed by just inserting the CD. The user may have no idea that they are using a LiveCD. After they discover that Ubuntu is "slow", they give up and reboot back into Windows. Notifying the user that they haven't installed Ubuntu yet would be the best way to solve this problem.
Utilize the new notification system. Have it simply display a message when the desktop has finished loading similar to:
Ubuntu is not installed yet! Feel free to use Ubuntu before installing it, but beware that it may be a little slow. If you like what you see click the install icon on your desktop!
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Solution #25:
Show notification when system is waiting for CD drive
Live session from USB/flash memory should be pretty okay even today but the real problem is accessing files from optical drive. Even there, the problem is latency, usually not the bandwidth.
The live session should run a small background service that displays a notification message when system is waiting for CD drive to access required data. The message could be along the line "Reading data from CD (installing on the hard drive would improve performance)" [however, the label should not claim to be reading CD if one is booting from e.g. usb memory stick]. The notification should be displayed if read command has waited in disk scheduler queue for more than a second.
This could be extended to deal with installed system, too. It would make sense to point out bottlenecks in the system to the user. If the system feels slow and a notification pops up that says "Waiting for disks (installing a fast SSD drive would improve performance)" would give a reasonable hint to the user which hardware upgrade would help the most. This could be even further extended and a similar notification should pop up if all CPU cores have been taken for more than 5 seconds ("Waiting for processor (upgrading the processor would improve performance)").
Live session from USB/flash memory should be pretty okay even today but the real problem is accessing files from optical drive. Even there, the problem is latency, usually not the bandwidth.
The live session should run a small background service that displays a notification message when system is waiting for CD drive to access required data. The message could be along the line "Reading data from CD (installing on the hard drive would improve performance)" [however, the label should not claim to be reading CD if one is booting from e.g. usb memory stick]. The notification should be displayed if read command has waited in disk scheduler queue for more than a second.
This could be extended to deal with installed system, too. It would make sense to point out bottlenecks in the system to the user. If the system feels slow and a notification pops up that says "Waiting for disks (installing a fast SSD drive would improve performance)" would give a reasonable hint to the user which hardware upgrade would help the most. This could be even further extended and a similar notification should pop up if all CPU cores have been taken for more than 5 seconds ("Waiting for processor (upgrading the processor would improve performance)").
Error Dialog Box If a Program Fails to Run
Written by kreggz the 2 Apr 09 at 09:26.
Global category: Usability.
New
An end user runs a GTK, SDL or QT application using an icon from their Gnome or KDE and it doesn't load. The user has no idea if the program is still loading or has failed.
Solution #1:
Display an Error Dialog Box If a Program Fails to Run
Written by
kreggz the 2 Apr 09 at 09:26.
If a program fails to run, details of the error should be displayed like it would if launched from the command line.
If a program fails to run, details of the error should be displayed like it would if launched from the command line.
Solution #2:
Include a system tray icon
A popup from the system tray would show something like "*PROGRAM* failed to start. Click here for more information..."
Then if necessary the user could view more information.
A popup from the system tray would show something like "*PROGRAM* failed to start. Click here for more information..."
Then if necessary the user could view more information.
Solution #3:
Change the moues to a "program opening" animation
Instead of just alerting a user when a program has failed, why not modify the mouse cursor to show that it is still trying to open?
This could be easily done in addition to solutions 1 or 2.
Instead of just alerting a user when a program has failed, why not modify the mouse cursor to show that it is still trying to open?
This could be easily done in addition to solutions 1 or 2.
Solution #4:
Add notification
Written by
grofaty the 5 Apr 09 at 07:33.
Add notification. Sample:
Notification's title: "Error on staring program X."
Notification's body: "You don't have rights to start the program. Make file executable."
Add notification. Sample:
Notification's title: "Error on staring program X."
Notification's body: "You don't have rights to start the program. Make file executable."
Solution #5:
Error Detection
Written by
sighK the 14 Apr 09 at 19:00.
because the launcher uses something like system();
who not look at $? after the command is finished, if not = 0 then display a dialog saying there has been an error. Mabey capture /dev/stderr and display the result in a text area, incase there are many errors.
you can probley do this using zenity to display the errors.
Make the original execution script do
session=$RAND
$command 2>/tmp/$session
if [ $? != 0 ]; then
zenity --text-info "$(cat /tmp$session)"
rm /tmp/$session
fi
because the launcher uses something like system();
who not look at $? after the command is finished, if not = 0 then display a dialog saying there has been an error. Mabey capture /dev/stderr and display the result in a text area, incase there are many errors.
you can probley do this using zenity to display the errors.
Make the original execution script do
session=$RAND
$command 2>/tmp/$session
if [ $? != 0 ]; then
zenity --text-info "$(cat /tmp$session)"
rm /tmp/$session
fi
Solution #6:
When other packages are missing give advice to install them
Sometimes there is the problem that not all needed packages are installed. In this case you could receive some kind of advice like:
"It's possible that not all needed packages were installed. Please check whether the following programs/packages are installed correct:"
Sometimes there is the problem that not all needed packages are installed. In this case you could receive some kind of advice like:
"It's possible that not all needed packages were installed. Please check whether the following programs/packages are installed correct:"
Solution #7:
Advise user HowTo command line on failure
If an application fails to start, give a message like "Such-and-such application failed to start correctly. Try running this app from a command line to see error messages." with instuctions on how to run the app from the command line.
If an application fails to start, give a message like "Such-and-such application failed to start correctly. Try running this app from a command line to see error messages." with instuctions on how to run the app from the command line.
Solution #8:
X Connection
Written by
Lachu the 22 Apr 09 at 13:50.
Check if app are connected to X Server. When not and app terminate, display some message. We only watch for apps creates X Window and show message like: "run it in terminal" if it's not in list.
I don't know it's hard to implement.
Check if app are connected to X Server. When not and app terminate, display some message. We only watch for apps creates X Window and show message like: "run it in terminal" if it's not in list.
I don't know it's hard to implement.
Solution #9:
Add a "Run in terminal" option in nautilus
Written by
m_m the 22 Apr 09 at 15:09.
Add "Run in terminal" as an option in nautilus contextual menu when selected file is executable (and don't close it when the program terminates).
Add "Run in terminal" as an option in nautilus contextual menu when selected file is executable (and don't close it when the program terminates).
Solution #10:
Automatically run terminal programs in terminal
Written by
Lachu the 23 Aug 09 at 19:07.
It's possible(I know you don't believe my, but it's true). You only need to link some console application with my library, so Canonical can do it before release new Ubuntu version.
Look at my comment: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17619/ (second comment in topic)
Look at my library: http://slawek.lach.art.pl/cui2gui-lib.tar.gz
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cli2gui/
Seriously Canonical can create similar library. My library has released today and it's not stable yet(alpha version), so DON'T USE IT or USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.