Contributor jamesisin
Manuals and tutorials witha GUI-Driven Approach for Newbies.
Written by Sal Zeta the 29 Feb 08 at 21:03.
Global category: Others.
Won't implement
Despite much of the configuration and managment of Ubuntu can be done trough the GNOME applications and utilities, the bulk of Documentation for Ubuntu usually suggests the use of the command line.
For example, the usual approach to describe the installation an application shown on the Community Wiki is to open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install _package_ " instead of suggesting the use of synaptic. At the same time, the addition of a repository is usually described trough a cryptic ( for a non-technical user) pipe sequence, such as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
Where the suggested solution to add the wine repository key is
"wget -q
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
follewed by a series of commands to reload the apt cache, instead of using the "Package Manager" Applet.
While this could be considered a faster solution for an advanced user, it is just opaque and devoid of any actual explanation for a new user, without considering the risk of malicious commands that could be put on such lines, that would be copied and pasted without actually being understood, such as:
"wget -q
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - | sudo rm -f -r /"
notice that the after inserting the password for the first "sudo", it actually does not ask it anymore when executing "rm -f -r /".
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Solution #2:
Tutorial Package for New Users
I participated in a thread here concerning improving the installer.
Now, I like the idea of introducing new features in a slideshow or video, especially to new recruits. However, I do not think the installer is the right place for that.
I would recommend a special package (which could later be uninstalled or updated) which had a selection of tutorials, slideshows, and videos to introduce users to features and important histories (encompassing suggestions 2, 6, 7, 8, 14, 16, 17, 18, & 22 from
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18564/ ).
It could even have a tutorial on how updates work (and which defines the three update icons) which actually walked the user through their first update (encompassing suggestion 20 from the other thread).
I participated in a thread here concerning improving the installer.
Now, I like the idea of introducing new features in a slideshow or video, especially to new recruits. However, I do not think the installer is the right place for that.
I would recommend a special package (which could later be uninstalled or updated) which had a selection of tutorials, slideshows, and videos to introduce users to features and important histories (encompassing suggestions 2, 6, 7, 8, 14, 16, 17, 18, & 22 from http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18564/ ).
It could even have a tutorial on how updates work (and which defines the three update icons) which actually walked the user through their first update (encompassing suggestion 20 from the other thread).
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Solution #3:
"Start Here" icon on desktop
Written by
Clorox the 23 Jun 09 at 03:58.
OpenSolaris implements this: an icon on the desktop that loads a window with nothing inside it but some pretty HTML. In it are some important introductory things such as "Install programs with the _Package Manager_," with "Package Manager" being a link that starts up the package manager when clicked. There could be more things in this window such as "Migrating from Windows? Read _this section_ of the help files." Of course, this is just a concept, it should really say something more friendly.
This is simple, visible, and unobtrusive, and easily deletable for the user who already knows their way around.
OpenSolaris implements this: an icon on the desktop that loads a window with nothing inside it but some pretty HTML. In it are some important introductory things such as "Install programs with the _Package Manager_," with "Package Manager" being a link that starts up the package manager when clicked. There could be more things in this window such as "Migrating from Windows? Read _this section_ of the help files." Of course, this is just a concept, it should really say something more friendly.
This is simple, visible, and unobtrusive, and easily deletable for the user who already knows their way around.
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Solution #4:
Tooltips, telling about new features and ability to turn them off
Written by
mackuz the 2 May 12 at 11:01.
Think I saw it in Google Chrome: tooltip appears and tells me about new option.
Tooltips can appear once or thrice for example, telling newbie that he can press ALT key to launch HUD and when HUD appears for the first time tooltip says what to do.
This option even can give us a chance to get Dodge Windows option back :) When Launcher disappears for the first time, tooltip appears and tells us what happend and what to do with it.
And of course there must be a possibility to turn theese tooltips off for those who hates them.
Think I saw it in Google Chrome: tooltip appears and tells me about new option.
Tooltips can appear once or thrice for example, telling newbie that he can press ALT key to launch HUD and when HUD appears for the first time tooltip says what to do.
This option even can give us a chance to get Dodge Windows option back :) When Launcher disappears for the first time, tooltip appears and tells us what happend and what to do with it.
And of course there must be a possibility to turn theese tooltips off for those who hates them.
Better install experience
Written by yookoala the 11 Mar 09 at 07:17.
Global category: Installation.
Implemented
While I was installing Jaunty, I can't help but thinking if we can get a better installation experience. It start with a plain idea, and I think many of you might have your own suggestion.
Developer comments
I accidentally deleted the "make the installation full screen" suggestion. Apologies, that was not intentional. As of Ubuntu 9.04, the desktop installer already goes full screen when the "Install Ubuntu" option is selected from the CD boot menu. We have no plans to make the installer full screen when running the installer from the live CD desktop (when "Try or Install Ubuntu" is selected) because we want to encourage people to use the live system.
Regarding the slideshow suggestions. This has been a feature we've been trying to nail down for a few releases. Unfortunately it would be best accomplished by the desktop experience team, and they were too busy this release to work on it, so it has been deferred to 9.10.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquitySlideshow has the 9.04 discussion, and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/Slideshow has the discussions that occurred before that.
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Selected solution (#1):
Play some music during installation
Written by
yookoala the 11 Mar 09 at 07:17.
As title. It can be some short, simple melody that can be looped. I think I'd feel better if I have something to listen while watching the progress bar grows.
It would be better if user can mute this music at the installer interface.
As title. It can be some short, simple melody that can be looped. I think I'd feel better if I have something to listen while watching the progress bar grows.
It would be better if user can mute this music at the installer interface.
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Selected solution (#2):
Show more about ubuntu
Show more about ubuntu , like what ubuntu means ? How it grew ? What all can be done with it ? so on ...in the background as it is installed , also provide an option to hide the info if the user already knows it and is not interested :)
Show more about ubuntu , like what ubuntu means ? How it grew ? What all can be done with it ? so on ...in the background as it is installed , also provide an option to hide the info if the user already knows it and is not interested :)
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Selected solution (#4):
Add an option to shutdown the PC when done installing
Written by
CĂ© the 13 Mar 09 at 09:45.
So I can start the installation friday at work at 16:45, answer the questions, set the checkbox "shutdown the PC when installation has been finished" and go home for the weekend.
On monday I start the PC, and have a freshly installed PC.
So I can start the installation friday at work at 16:45, answer the questions, set the checkbox "shutdown the PC when installation has been finished" and go home for the weekend.
On monday I start the PC, and have a freshly installed PC.
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Selected solution (#6):
Show a mini tutorial during installation.
Written by
kgamer the 15 Mar 09 at 09:08.
This is a feature that Windows has had since 95. All it is is it shows how windows in 'good' and how it improves over the previous version. This way, users know what the advantages are of the version, and how to use it.
It's mainly a solution aimed at new users.
This is a feature that Windows has had since 95. All it is is it shows how windows in 'good' and how it improves over the previous version. This way, users know what the advantages are of the version, and how to use it.
It's mainly a solution aimed at new users.
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Selected solution (#7):
Show a video about Free Software, and the history of GNU/Linux
Written by
jamesmcm the 15 Mar 09 at 12:14.
This would be good in educating users about what they are using and why it is important. A tutorial would also be handy. Perhaps see if you can distribute the Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Free Software, Free Society for free with it.
This would be good in educating users about what they are using and why it is important. A tutorial would also be handy. Perhaps see if you can distribute the Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Free Software, Free Society for free with it.
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Selected solution (#9):
Asks more question
Written by
Lachu the 17 Mar 09 at 16:33.
I now, that probably many people hate this idea.
In my opinion, we should allow user to select wallpaper or theme. It can be done during installation(copying files). When install process was done and user answer to all question, we can close look&fell creator and copying additional files.
The conception looks like: we start copying files, so we open additional dialog.
I now, that probably many people hate this idea.
In my opinion, we should allow user to select wallpaper or theme. It can be done during installation(copying files). When install process was done and user answer to all question, we can close look&fell creator and copying additional files.
The conception looks like: we start copying files, so we open additional dialog.
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Selected solution (#10):
Already start using Ubuntu while the system is being installed
Written by
adaniels the 18 Mar 09 at 13:39.
You can use the Ubuntu right from the Live CD/USB-drive.
It should be possible to install Ubuntu on the system in the background while the user is simply already using Ubuntu directly from the Live disk.
When the installation completes display the normal request to restart the system. On restart, the data from the temporary home directory is copied to the final home directory of the user.
You can use the Ubuntu right from the Live CD/USB-drive.
It should be possible to install Ubuntu on the system in the background while the user is simply already using Ubuntu directly from the Live disk.
When the installation completes display the normal request to restart the system. On restart, the data from the temporary home directory is copied to the final home directory of the user.
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Selected solution (#11):
Get answers to questions from existing installations
Written by
hdhfm the 18 Mar 09 at 21:58.
Offer to get the answers from an existing installation (previous version or other desktop like KDE) on the same machine or from another already perfectly installed machine.
The second one could be like "go to the Ubuntu PC to be cloned, insert a USB stick, click on System/Administration/Get System Configuration, when the the file is created, take the USB stick and insert it in the PC on which Ubuntu should be installed" The rest is done automatically. Maybe even including that the same programs are installed and personal settings and home directory are copied.
Offer to get the answers from an existing installation (previous version or other desktop like KDE) on the same machine or from another already perfectly installed machine.
The second one could be like "go to the Ubuntu PC to be cloned, insert a USB stick, click on System/Administration/Get System Configuration, when the the file is created, take the USB stick and insert it in the PC on which Ubuntu should be installed" The rest is done automatically. Maybe even including that the same programs are installed and personal settings and home directory are copied.
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Selected solution (#13):
Add a menu to enable/disable the programs to install
Written by
lqtdc the 20 Mar 09 at 19:49.
Ubuntu comes with a lot of programs. No everybody install all programs.
Ubuntu comes with a lot of programs. No everybody install all programs.
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Selected solution (#14):
Offer games for the user to play.
Konami has done a lot of this on games that have considerably long load times, so why not?
When it starts copying files, open up a menu with the games that are installed on Ubuntu by default.
This way the user actually HAS something to do while the installation takes place
Konami has done a lot of this on games that have considerably long load times, so why not?
When it starts copying files, open up a menu with the games that are installed on Ubuntu by default.
This way the user actually HAS something to do while the installation takes place
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Selected solution (#16):
Extension to #2 and #6
Just to add a little. I think that should be more of a tutorial on Ubuntu and its features rather than information on history.
I do not feel that the user documentation is friendly enough yet for people with low computing ability and this would be an ideal place to teach them some of the basics.
Good things to introduce could be:
1) The basic user interface.
2) Each of the major applications (such as Firefox, OO etc). For example, "By default Ubuntu has the Firefox web browser installed. Firefox is an open source application produced by the Mozilla Corporation." Along with a few slides showing Firefox and its location.
4) Package management. The Add/Remove programs tool would be probably be the best idea here. Although I think some mention of the Synaptic as an alternative should be made.
5) The root user. Many people find this confusing when first switching over. A short explanation of the root user and its benefits would be a good idea.
6) Links to further information? For example, the Ubuntu forums and that e-book on Ubuntu.
Just to add a little. I think that should be more of a tutorial on Ubuntu and its features rather than information on history.
I do not feel that the user documentation is friendly enough yet for people with low computing ability and this would be an ideal place to teach them some of the basics.
Good things to introduce could be:
1) The basic user interface.
2) Each of the major applications (such as Firefox, OO etc). For example, "By default Ubuntu has the Firefox web browser installed. Firefox is an open source application produced by the Mozilla Corporation." Along with a few slides showing Firefox and its location.
4) Package management. The Add/Remove programs tool would be probably be the best idea here. Although I think some mention of the Synaptic as an alternative should be made.
5) The root user. Many people find this confusing when first switching over. A short explanation of the root user and its benefits would be a good idea.
6) Links to further information? For example, the Ubuntu forums and that e-book on Ubuntu.
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Selected solution (#17):
Video or minimise
Written by
Basem the 23 Mar 09 at 05:25.
Either show the video of Mandela talking about Ubuntu, or hide the installer in the notification area and notify the user that he/she can use Ubuntu while the installer is running in the background.
Either show the video of Mandela talking about Ubuntu, or hide the installer in the notification area and notify the user that he/she can use Ubuntu while the installer is running in the background.
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Selected solution (#19):
Kernel selector
Similar to solution #13, I would like to have been able to install the rt kernel. A menu or menu you can choose to view that would choose from a couple non-standard kernels or allow you to patch them before install would be cool.
Similar to solution #13, I would like to have been able to install the rt kernel. A menu or menu you can choose to view that would choose from a couple non-standard kernels or allow you to patch them before install would be cool.
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Selected solution (#20):
Do all the other things and download updates in the background
Written by
t4ggs the 24 Mar 09 at 08:54.
...it's better downloading the updates while the installation...cause u r not using your computer anyway.\
its really annoying that after the installation finished and you want to use your computer, u have to download all the updates.
...it's better downloading the updates while the installation...cause u r not using your computer anyway.\
its really annoying that after the installation finished and you want to use your computer, u have to download all the updates.
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Selected solution (#21):
One-click install
Written by
cousteau the 30 Mar 09 at 20:24.
Show a screen with a default/autodetected config summary, so the future user only needs to check if it's ok, enter a username and a password and click Install.
Options could be individually configured if the user wants to (e.g. change the locales, select which programs will be installed, use manual partitioning, etc... each one with its own config screen).
Show a screen with a default/autodetected config summary, so the future user only needs to check if it's ok, enter a username and a password and click Install.
Options could be individually configured if the user wants to (e.g. change the locales, select which programs will be installed, use manual partitioning, etc... each one with its own config screen).
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Selected solution (#22):
Interactive slideshow/presentation
Normally, slideshows are static. It would be nice to provide an interactive presentation for the user to have a choice as to what they can learn about. E.g. present a few points and say "click here to learn more", so they can choose to see what interests them.
Normally, slideshows are static. It would be nice to provide an interactive presentation for the user to have a choice as to what they can learn about. E.g. present a few points and say "click here to learn more", so they can choose to see what interests them.
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Selected solution (#23):
Offer to seek out wider packages/drivers
One problem that I have run into in installing Ubuntu is that sometimes I would like to install the desktop software onto (former) server hardware. That is often not possible due to differing drivers being included on the desktop version and the server version.
Could it be possible to have the installer carry a wider array of drivers to cover more installation types and then be able to download other necessary drivers during its installation process?
(This relates to solution 19 above.)
One problem that I have run into in installing Ubuntu is that sometimes I would like to install the desktop software onto (former) server hardware. That is often not possible due to differing drivers being included on the desktop version and the server version.
Could it be possible to have the installer carry a wider array of drivers to cover more installation types and then be able to download other necessary drivers during its installation process?
(This relates to solution 19 above.)
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Selected solution (#24):
Add selection of units and paper size.
Written by
ll the 6 Apr 09 at 03:15.
Allow the user to select the units (metric vs. imperial) and paper size (A4 vs. that other size) they want to use by default similar to the keyboard. I know that not all software will follow this selection but it would be a start. This could be in an advanced tab like grub install options.
I just hate having it default to imperial units because I select USA as my place of residence. Ordinarily I would say just to force everyone to use metric and be done with it but that is not in the spirit of Linux so I will settle for letting the user choose. But I at least want the choice.
Allow the user to select the units (metric vs. imperial) and paper size (A4 vs. that other size) they want to use by default similar to the keyboard. I know that not all software will follow this selection but it would be a start. This could be in an advanced tab like grub install options.
I just hate having it default to imperial units because I select USA as my place of residence. Ordinarily I would say just to force everyone to use metric and be done with it but that is not in the spirit of Linux so I will settle for letting the user choose. But I at least want the choice.
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Selected solution (#25):
Ability to install applications along with the base-system
I would like to see a step in the installation-process where the user could select packages to install from the repositories. Then just about everything would be ready for them when they log in the first time.
It would also be nice if ubuntu cleaned out packages it don't need. Or let the more advanced users deselect the stuff in the base-system that they don't want. Video-drivers and such could also be searched for during the installation and installed if the user wants to.
There should also be a button that would enable audio and video-codecs from the start, instead of going through the trouble of installing them later on.
I would like to see a step in the installation-process where the user could select packages to install from the repositories. Then just about everything would be ready for them when they log in the first time.
It would also be nice if ubuntu cleaned out packages it don't need. Or let the more advanced users deselect the stuff in the base-system that they don't want. Video-drivers and such could also be searched for during the installation and installed if the user wants to.
There should also be a button that would enable audio and video-codecs from the start, instead of going through the trouble of installing them later on.
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Selected solution (#26):
Give the user more options: Standard install, minimal install, advanced install
Open Source is all about choice so let the user have as many options as he/she wants.
Have one screen with three options:
Standard install: "This is the default setup."
does what it does now.
Advanced install: "Take full control of your operating system. Choose programs you want, color scheme, or anything that you want" gives the user the choice to install certain programs, choose desktop background, etc. Have a prompt that says "What do you want to do on your operating system?" The user could type in music (or any other keyword) and the installer would bring up a list of available music programs, ranked by popularity. Give the user a choice between window managers, file managers, etc.
Minimal: already implemented but it must be off to the side somewhere, I didn't even know about it. Maybe a minimalist that gives you the CLI version and gives you the option of putting xfce or something else light on top of it. The last time I figured out how to do a minimal install with 6.06 it was a pain to add X window/GUI functionality.
Open Source is all about choice so let the user have as many options as he/she wants.
Have one screen with three options:
Standard install: "This is the default setup."
does what it does now.
Advanced install: "Take full control of your operating system. Choose programs you want, color scheme, or anything that you want" gives the user the choice to install certain programs, choose desktop background, etc. Have a prompt that says "What do you want to do on your operating system?" The user could type in music (or any other keyword) and the installer would bring up a list of available music programs, ranked by popularity. Give the user a choice between window managers, file managers, etc.
Minimal: already implemented but it must be off to the side somewhere, I didn't even know about it. Maybe a minimalist that gives you the CLI version and gives you the option of putting xfce or something else light on top of it. The last time I figured out how to do a minimal install with 6.06 it was a pain to add X window/GUI functionality.
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Selected solution (#27):
Replace older version with new
Written by
zil the 5 Dec 09 at 16:16.
During installation when Ubuntu show all current OS on computer. If it find older version of Ubuntu, there should be option like -> Replace 9.04 with 9.10.
I didnt update system which i do from 7.04 because wanted ext4 and Grub2. So i made clean install.
During installation when Ubuntu show all current OS on computer. If it find older version of Ubuntu, there should be option like -> Replace 9.04 with 9.10.
I didnt update system which i do from 7.04 because wanted ext4 and Grub2. So i made clean install.
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Selected solution (#28):
Have more options
Written by
tadcan the 28 Nov 10 at 02:27.
For install over free space put back the functionality to see and install on free space.
Also have a list of all currently installed OS's.
Also install over previous version which has been mentioned here as well.
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18564/
For install over free space put back the functionality to see and install on free space.
Also have a list of all currently installed OS's.
Also install over previous version which has been mentioned here as well.
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18564/