Brainstorm category

Oftentimes, a user wants to create a 5-second mockup in ASCII. For example, look at the comments for this idea. Coder543 wanted to make a quick mockup that would have looked like this (underscores added):
________/
_______/_
______/__
__I.E_/_Firefox
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etc.

Instead he was left with a horribly mangled comment that was just a column of /'s. Please preserve whitespace for comments in brainstorm.

Edit: Also, please don't have the idea description font be monospaced when editing. The end result is normal isn't, so why can't we see what we'll get?

Create a new section on the Ubuntu Forums and link all Brainstorm comments to it. This would make discussions more organized as it would allow quoting and permalinks to comments (see Idea #16868).

Example (translated from Norwegian)

Comments on the article are automatically linked to a forum. When you click on "View the discussion in the forum", it automatically takes you to a forum where the discussion continues.

This would both save space and bandwidth.

Hmm, let's consider....
I was posting an ASCII based demonstration of an idea on a comment, and guess what! I apparently committed an act of heresy! I USED MULTIPLE SPACES TO SPACE OUT MY SLASH MARKS!!!!! I know, you're thinking that I've got to be joking. A comment system that _removes_ extra spaces? What a lame concept. You might save what, 1kb a year on webstorage. Hey, time for a pat on the back... good job. Seriously, If I Go Through The Effort To Put Those Spaces In.... I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE REMOVED!

The ideas duplicate generate confusion, instead of deleting it would be good idea incorporated in the original. Even doubled, they have other solutions to the same problem. It is excellent complement to the main idea.

That would leave the brainstorm more organized, without duplicate ideas in the principal display.

Many ideas can not be worked immediately, even though very popular. It is very frustrating to have your idea popular, and not see any action.

It would be interesting to have markings of the type.

This idea is very good, we have interest.
This idea could be realized in the future.
This idea may be in short term.
This idea depends on other developers. We will suggest it.
Your idea is good, but can evolve.
We will improve your idea, and work on it.

It would be very good this action. People can understand better what the developers think. It would make a better cheer to all, because his ideas would have marked by developers.

Simply, use Ajax, in the following operations for example:
1- Voting, with an indicator to show the user an alert when his vote reach ubuntu server.
2- Adding new idea, when the user click on the "Add" button, a form appears on the same page, and when press submit, an indicator appears to show the user an alert when his idea reach ubuntu server.
3- My Ideas, show the user a live-updating counters on "Overall quality of my ideas" on the "Dashboard" page.

and may be in many more sections here.

Now you earn points by the popularity of your ideas. I think earning points for reporting duplicates would be good too.

Remember last time I was looking at my ideas and tell me how they have change since.

If the user tries to open a folder without permission, then ask an administrator login.

The same goes for the folders without permits

Sorry for my English, I translated with google

Here is in nutshell (if you want to avoid reading the whole thing)
Permalinks would be html links on comment boxes that, when followed would straight away open the specific comment on the idea page. This makes discussing about a specific comment easier.

DETAILS:

>> What are permalinks?
A URL pointing to a specific comment, opening which would directly take you to the comment.

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>> Why is it needed?
Consider idea http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/103/
Now suppose, you are discussing this idea on some IRC channel and you are refering to user 2cents comment in that idea.
Since this idea has a lot of comments, the person reading it has to literally scan the whole idea or use his/her browser's search tools.
If you use a permalink instead, you can simply give the permalink address that would straight away take the visitor to the comment.

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>> Some examples?

I will site examples from Ubuntu websites itself.

1. Launchpad has permalink.
Now consider this huge bug page: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1

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EDIT: After reading the comments, I understand this is not a very good idea. So I'm (in a way) taking it back.
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I think a policy like that of Slashdot's (Promote quality, discourage crap) would be great to have on Brainstorm. Not that this isn't good (vote up, vote down), but we could really make quality ideas come up with a slightly more complicated system.

There are a thousand ideas that I can make that will +4 or +10 votes. Nothing great, but not many will vote down.

But if we could make a system in which making an average idea will actually lower your "karma" or "power" and only great ideas will push your karma up would be great.

So the system can be something like the follows:
If it isn't a great idea your "power" comes down. If it is a great idea, your "power" goes up.

"Power" will determine how much you are able to influence an idea (as in your vote will count more).

"Power" has to be temporary, because (like in slashdot) you can't pile up your "power" use it to sway an idea very significantly.

Everyone was a minimum level of "power". So "citizens" are not deprived of voting, they are just deprived of powerful voting.

What I think the effect will be:
Quality ideas will get more attention
Spam will die
More thoughtful ideas will get promoted as "powerful" people are more likely to have a good understanding of Ubuntu and related systems, concepts, etc.

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When a moderator marks idea as a duplicate, the duplicate one should be closed.
Or, it could be done in a way that voting on the duplicate increments the votes for the original idea.

Why is this needed?
Because presently, a duplicate shows a "duplicate" in rd written in small fonts. Sometimes users do not notice that and keep voting on the duplicate itself.

As it is now it's hard just "look how my last idea is going". Depending how itäs going it's located on different pages.

Just sorting the ideas on time submitted would solve this.

maybe this will change in Ideatorrent?

This is how it is now:

- (http://www.example.com/) won't work because of the ")".

- http://www.example.com. won't work because of the ".".

etc.

Correct formatting would be great.

Please see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/24030. This feature appears to be a trap for the unwary user hoping for help.

Currently one can vote up someone's idea or vote it down or report it as duplicate. It's easy to understand why people would vote an idea up - that's explained in the description of the idea, but it's not so with voting down an idea. If someone's idea is voted down there's no way to know why and thus no way to have a discussion and maybe think of a better idea. My proposal is to disallow voting down an idea in general without commenting why and instead allow to vote up for other people's reasons why they voted it down. So as to keep the discussion going.

What about taking advantage of the IPOD TOUCH by making Ubuntu run on an IPOD TOUCH, think about the posibilities, even replacement of the Iphone OS. Ultra Portable Ubuntu!!!

To ensure that every vote was given reasonable thought, I suggest that we limit every user here in Brainstorm to one vote every 7 seconds. It should not be annoying though, and allow some flexibility. I would implement it like this:

- Each time a user votes, 7 seconds get added to his "buffer".

- The "buffer" decays with one per second. It cannot go below 0.

- A user can only vote if his "buffer" is smaller than 14. This means a user can vote 3 times in the first second, but then has to wait 7 seconds per vote.

- If the "buffer" is above 14 and a user tries to vote, a message is shown along the lines of "Hey, don't vote too fast! Please wait x seconds..." A normal user should (almost) never get this message, so you could decrease the 7 seconds to a smaller interval.

Have you even gone to vote to an idea only to find out there are tons of comments saying "why wont you try this app is the same thing or hey its already done look at this website and download this app". Well my idea is to implement a section of the comments to have a place to upload or place the website of a recommended app and make it vote to find out which is the one that is the best by popular vote so you don't have to look from millions of comments to find out any alternative to the idea that is supposedly already been done. This idea can be also be implemented to various website like Ubuntuforums, Ubuntu site and brain storm. It will improve information sharing.

many or even majority of ideas posted on this site are not really ideas more wishlists.
Mostly ideas say: "Include newest version of Foo-Bar in repos" or "Include Foo-bar by default".
Meaning that ideas don't propose anything new as they should but are more an wish-list of things that are already possible just not included.
At least I understand concepts of wish-list and idea.
You can call it whatever you like.
I think it could be good to make more clear distinction between a
which idea proposes something that doesn't exists at all.
Which only proposes something that exists and is not included by default and similar ideas...