Contributor qwerty800 on Add/Remove program dialog
Make launchpad package installation simple.
Written by varunjo the 27 Nov 09 at 07:13.
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Right now , for installing anything from launchpad, we have to open software sources, add the repository, and the install the package. This should be made easy.
Solution #2:
Use apt-url
Modify apt-url to support ppa links.
Ex:
normal apturl: apt:firefox
ppa apturl: ppa:user/ppa?install=firefox
Modify apt-url to support ppa links.
Ex:
normal apturl: apt:firefox
ppa apturl: ppa:user/ppa?install=firefox
Solution #3:
Modify apt-url to support 3rd party repositories
Written by
yman the 30 Nov 09 at 02:38.
For example:
apt:w32codecs@packages.medibuntu.org
or something like that. If the repository isn't already included in sources.list, display a warning about installing software from untrusted sources.
EDIT:
Create a standard way for repositories to store their key, so it can be automatically retrieved when doing the above.
For example:
apt:w32codecs@packages.medibuntu.org
or something like that. If the repository isn't already included in sources.list, display a warning about installing software from untrusted sources.
EDIT:
Create a standard way for repositories to store their key, so it can be automatically retrieved when doing the above.
Solution #4:
Include repo in deb (Google Chrome does this)
Written by
snadrus the 1 Dec 09 at 22:11.
When installing google chrome, it adds the Google Labs repo to my system. This keeps things simple and is completely unnoticed except to experienced users. That way people can share DEBs (including out of date DEBs) and they will install fine & be updated later.
When installing google chrome, it adds the Google Labs repo to my system. This keeps things simple and is completely unnoticed except to experienced users. That way people can share DEBs (including out of date DEBs) and they will install fine & be updated later.
Solution #5:
Include the repo and use rsa type keys and certificates
Written by
mdhunn the 2 Dec 09 at 21:38.
I really like the idea of including the repo in the deb but security is a concern. being able to check keys against a certificate revocation list in launchpad and un-install software from a source would help. I know this would be a pain to implement but a centralized key and certificate server would help keep us from winding up like Windoze.
I really like the idea of including the repo in the deb but security is a concern. being able to check keys against a certificate revocation list in launchpad and un-install software from a source would help. I know this would be a pain to implement but a centralized key and certificate server would help keep us from winding up like Windoze.
Solution #6:
.rep package + optional install-on-the-spot button on website
Written by
wolterh the 17 Dec 09 at 16:28.
This solution is pretty much the same as Solution #1, but with a small variation.
A button should be placed in the site to install the package, another to download. If one clicks the download button, solution #1 pretty much describes what should happen. If one clicks on the install button, this is what will happen:
1. User gets prompted for password (gksu style)
2. EULA-style dialog appears asking the user if he/she approves the provider's gpg key.
3. GUI opens up (maybe Ubuntu Software Center*) downloading the package for later installation. The package is downloaded where packages are usually downloaded when one installs via [apt-get install].
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*If Ubuntu Software Center is used, then there must be an indication that the package is not in the official repository (universe or whatever). Maybe the tabs could be re-arranged, in the following way:
-Official Repository
-Third-Party Repositories
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-Installed Software
This solution is pretty much the same as Solution #1, but with a small variation.
A button should be placed in the site to install the package, another to download. If one clicks the download button, solution #1 pretty much describes what should happen. If one clicks on the install button, this is what will happen:
1. User gets prompted for password (gksu style)
2. EULA-style dialog appears asking the user if he/she approves the provider's gpg key.
3. GUI opens up (maybe Ubuntu Software Center*) downloading the package for later installation. The package is downloaded where packages are usually downloaded when one installs via [apt-get install].
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*If Ubuntu Software Center is used, then there must be an indication that the package is not in the official repository (universe or whatever). Maybe the tabs could be re-arranged, in the following way:
-Official Repository
-Third-Party Repositories
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-Installed Software
Solution #7:
And never forgot to show the appropriate warning.
Written by
Ssdg the 2 Jan 10 at 15:12.
Relying on a 3rd party repository means relying on it's manager for the very stability and safety of your system. because package installation allows full access to the core of your system (kernel, network, filesystems, MBR,...) and to replace already installed packages (including libraries. I might be a good thing, or not.)
Everytime a new repository is set, you allow a new organisation/person to gain this access.
Those facts should be stated to the user in order for him to take the right decision.
Relying on a 3rd party repository means relying on it's manager for the very stability and safety of your system. because package installation allows full access to the core of your system (kernel, network, filesystems, MBR,...) and to replace already installed packages (including libraries. I might be a good thing, or not.)
Everytime a new repository is set, you allow a new organisation/person to gain this access.
Those facts should be stated to the user in order for him to take the right decision.
Solution #8:
Use Deb packages instead
It's already possible for 3rd party vendors to create .deb files that add their repo info and GPG key. We should just encourage this rather than design a new system.
It's already possible for 3rd party vendors to create .deb files that add their repo info and GPG key. We should just encourage this rather than design a new system.
Solution #9:
AptURL can already do this - get developers to enable it
Written by
Clorox the 9 Jan 10 at 05:50.
Currently, the feature is there, but the developers don't want to enable it because of security reasons. If it were enabled, then repositories could be added easily "with one click".
Currently, the feature is there, but the developers don't want to enable it because of security reasons. If it were enabled, then repositories could be added easily "with one click".
Solution #10:
And provide the option to install only select package(s) from a repository
Written by
undecim the 11 Jan 10 at 03:44.
In addition to solution #1, the user should have the option of installing only selected package(s) from a repository.
This allows the user to install an application without providing the maintainer continued access to the user's system, and also keeps the user safe should the repository become compromised later.
This also allows a package to be installed if a repository causes a dependency paradox, but the desired package(s) do not.
In addition to solution #1, the user should have the option of installing only selected package(s) from a repository.
This allows the user to install an application without providing the maintainer continued access to the user's system, and also keeps the user safe should the repository become compromised later.
This also allows a package to be installed if a repository causes a dependency paradox, but the desired package(s) do not.
Problem With Restricted Software Installation Warning
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Written by makru the 18 May 09 at 00:28.
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After installing Ubuntu on several computers for friends, I received the same question: "Is it ok to install restricted software? I just got a warning when trying to install .mp3 and flash codecs."
Solution #1:
Remove The Warnings Completely
Written by
makru the 18 May 09 at 00:28.
Now, it is pretty evident that most computer users have no idea what "open source" or "restricted software" refers to. After all, Windows and OS X do not give you warnings when installing open source software. Thus, this impediment for new users should be removed. It serves absolutely no purpose aside from confusing them. Linux veterans know what is proprietary and what is not, because that is their passion. New users could not care less and just want to install whatever they desire. Of course this same mentality should be carried across add/remove installations and video codecs. After all, nobody cares that Totem needs to install new codecs to play a movie, so it should happen automatically without any user input. If open source advocates dislike propriety features, they should be able to disable this feature through the software sources section. Also, I realize that ubuntu restricted extras resolves most of these problems, but would that be the first thing you would search for when introduced to a new operating system? No. That is why a video player like VLC (that just works) has more downloads than the entire Ubuntu user base.
Now, it is pretty evident that most computer users have no idea what "open source" or "restricted software" refers to. After all, Windows and OS X do not give you warnings when installing open source software. Thus, this impediment for new users should be removed. It serves absolutely no purpose aside from confusing them. Linux veterans know what is proprietary and what is not, because that is their passion. New users could not care less and just want to install whatever they desire. Of course this same mentality should be carried across add/remove installations and video codecs. After all, nobody cares that Totem needs to install new codecs to play a movie, so it should happen automatically without any user input. If open source advocates dislike propriety features, they should be able to disable this feature through the software sources section. Also, I realize that ubuntu restricted extras resolves most of these problems, but would that be the first thing you would search for when introduced to a new operating system? No. That is why a video player like VLC (that just works) has more downloads than the entire Ubuntu user base.
Solution #2:
Rename the restricted software user warning
Written by
tuxxy the 18 May 09 at 14:36.
The warning may benefit from being renamed to a less technical orientated recommendation. This new warning should allow even the newest Ubuntu users to gain an understanding as to what this process will do and how it will benefit their new installation.
Examples could be "Is it OK to install the Recommended / Appropriate / Multimedia / third-party software for your system"
The warning may benefit from being renamed to a less technical orientated recommendation. This new warning should allow even the newest Ubuntu users to gain an understanding as to what this process will do and how it will benefit their new installation.
Examples could be "Is it OK to install the Recommended / Appropriate / Multimedia / third-party software for your system"
Solution #3:
Rename the restricted software user warning and add checkbox
Written by
Glich the 18 May 09 at 17:42.
The same as solution 2 but a check box should exist to disable future warnings. The option should also exist somewhere to re-enable warnings.
The same as solution 2 but a check box should exist to disable future warnings. The option should also exist somewhere to re-enable warnings.
Solution #4:
Just insert a proper short description in the warning.
Description in the warning, as short as possible:
1. what it is,
2. why it is sometimes necessary,
3. but why it is better to stay away from it.
and links on further reading of course.
Proper education is the key.
Description in the warning, as short as possible:
1. what it is,
2. why it is sometimes necessary,
3. but why it is better to stay away from it.
and links on further reading of course.
Proper education is the key.
Solution #5:
Rename restricted software.
Written by
Lachu the 19 May 09 at 06:56.
Rename restricted software to stricted licensing software. Add warning this is a third party software and Ubuntu team don't give quarantine it's should worked.
Rename restricted software to stricted licensing software. Add warning this is a third party software and Ubuntu team don't give quarantine it's should worked.
Solution #6:
Move warning text from the alert to app description, remove alert at all
Written by
Dim the 19 May 09 at 10:59.
Alerts always stand in the way. The problem is not only with the text of warning but with the alert itself.
What I propose is to move the warning text (improved according to solutions above) from the alert to the description of the application. Of course, the text should not be merged with the description and should look different.
Why is this better:
1. Nothing stands in the way.
2. When you have "restricted software" enabled, you still know which app is "restricted",
Alerts always stand in the way. The problem is not only with the text of warning but with the alert itself.
What I propose is to move the warning text (improved according to solutions above) from the alert to the description of the application. Of course, the text should not be merged with the description and should look different.
Why is this better:
1. Nothing stands in the way.
2. When you have "restricted software" enabled, you still know which app is "restricted",
Solution #7:
Change the Warning Icon to an Information/Question Icon
Common users are scared of "Warning" icons (those with the yellow triangle ), so they rather click 'Cancel' or go in panic :D
Why don't we just replace the Warning message with an Information message ( or Question message ) with the more friendly ( I ) icon?
( Tango theme has a light bulb )
Here a mockup:
Common users are scared of "Warning" icons (those with the yellow triangle ), so they rather click 'Cancel' or go in panic :D
Why don't we just replace the Warning message with an Information message ( or Question message ) with the more friendly ( I ) icon?
( Tango theme has a light bulb )
Here a mockup:
<a href="http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mockuprestrict.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/526/mockuprestrict.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" />
Solution #8:
Split into non-free and possibly illegal.
"The package foo is non-free software. There are restrictions on the use of this package, which can be found
here. "
"The package foo may be illegal in some countries; please check relevant laws before installation."
"The package foo is non-free software. There are restrictions on the use of this package, which can be found <a href="http://crunchsoft.com/foo/licensing.html"> here. </a>"
"The package foo may be illegal in some countries; please check relevant laws before installation."
Solution #9:
Split restricted into restricted and restricting, let user disable this warnings
Written by
Felitaur the 20 Mar 11 at 00:59.
There is much difference, some software is free itself, but restricted by wrong laws and some software is restricting users. Ubuntu should not display any warning if it is know, such software is legal withing country user selected on the system settings, but is should display such warning about software restricting user rights, also, dialog windows should describe what is wrong with such software.
Also, there should be options to install or deny software from both categories without further questions.
There is much difference, some software is free itself, but restricted by wrong laws and some software is restricting users. Ubuntu should not display any warning if it is know, such software is legal withing country user selected on the system settings, but is should display such warning about software restricting user rights, also, dialog windows should describe what is wrong with such software.
Also, there should be options to install or deny software from both categories without further questions.
SoftwareStore should be renamed
Written by orlox the 8 Sep 09 at 13:19.
Implemented
The name SoftwareStore has received a lot of criticism, and I'm yet to find someone who agrees with it (although, someone must agree since they changed the name).
I think the word "store" will immediately associate the application to commercial software, but the application itself will be centred on free software.
Also, the name seems to hurt user feedback, since most of them just start a discussion on how bad the name is, and alternatives to it, instead of doing some constructive discussion on the features,scope and importance of the project.
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Selected solution (#1):
Return to the old name: AppCenter
Written by
orlox the 8 Sep 09 at 13:19.
The old name, AppCenter, seemed to be widely accepted. It's a short, yet informative name, that expresses the idea of the application in a very good way (a frontend that integrates all other software management frontends in a consistent way)
Perhaps this name should be restored, leave the package and executable named as appcenter, and list it in the administration menu as "Application Center" or "Ubuntu Application Center".
The old name, AppCenter, seemed to be widely accepted. It's a short, yet informative name, that expresses the idea of the application in a very good way (a frontend that integrates all other software management frontends in a consistent way)
Perhaps this name should be restored, leave the package and executable named as appcenter, and list it in the administration menu as "Application Center" or "Ubuntu Application Center".
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Selected solution (#3):
Use a name with the word software (but not store)
Written by
orlox the 9 Sep 09 at 02:54.
An "app" is not something widely recognized, so it might be better to choose a name for this application that uses the word "software", but not the name store. Besides, this interface will serve to install many things that qualify as software, but not as an application (like codecs and fonts).
Pehaps, a contraction of the word like "soft" or "sw" could also be used for the application name (i.e. package name, executable, launchpad entry, etc...), while menu entries describe it using the whole word to keep clarity for unexperienced users.
Even more, the word software is correctly recognized by many non-english speakers, including some that are relatively computer-illiterate.
Since there's an infinite amount of alternative names that can be used here, perhaps this solution can be kept open to various alternatives (for now).
An "app" is not something widely recognized, so it might be better to choose a name for this application that uses the word "software", but not the name store. Besides, this interface will serve to install many things that qualify as software, but not as an application (like codecs and fonts).
Pehaps, a contraction of the word like "soft" or "sw" could also be used for the application name (i.e. package name, executable, launchpad entry, etc...), while menu entries describe it using the whole word to keep clarity for unexperienced users.
Even more, the word software is correctly recognized by many non-english speakers, including some that are relatively computer-illiterate.
Since there's an infinite amount of alternative names that can be used here, perhaps this solution can be kept open to various alternatives (for now).
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Selected solution (#4):
Use "Software Center"
Written by
orlox the 9 Sep 09 at 23:40.
This name would cover the technical aspect of using "software" over "application", and also take the advantage of the unifying concept of "center".
This solution complies with solution #3 as a particular case of it.
This name would cover the technical aspect of using "software" over "application", and also take the advantage of the unifying concept of "center".
This solution complies with solution #3 as a particular case of it.
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Selected solution (#5):
Just call it Add/Remove
It adds and removes software, it will be in the menu next to all the applications.
Having an internal name is fine but there's no reason for it to have a fancy marketing name for users to see, simply call it what it does.
It adds and removes software, it will be in the menu next to all the applications.
Having an internal name is fine but there's no reason for it to have a fancy marketing name for users to see, simply call it what it does.
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Selected solution (#6):
Let it be - Software Store sounds great
Written by
CVL the 12 Sep 09 at 07:21.
This idea is really a waste of time for everyone.
Software Store sounds great and I hope it would atract interest from lots of commercial developers to Ubuntu.
This idea is really a waste of time for everyone.
Software Store sounds great and I hope it would atract interest from lots of commercial developers to Ubuntu.
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Selected solution (#7):
Ubuntu Central
As the plan is to incorporate Add/Remove, Synaptic, Update Manager and other bits, I think Ubuntu Central or something similar (in concept not sound) that has a broader sense than software/app store/center would be more suitable.
Alternatively, Taking into consideration Ubuntu's humanistic feel I think it would be fitting if they gave the application a name in that vein. Ubuntu Nexus?
As the plan is to incorporate Add/Remove, Synaptic, Update Manager and other bits, I think Ubuntu Central or something similar (in concept not sound) that has a broader sense than software/app store/center would be more suitable.
Alternatively, Taking into consideration Ubuntu's humanistic feel I think it would be fitting if they gave the application a name in that vein. Ubuntu Nexus?
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Selected solution (#8):
UbuntuStores
Written by
kazuya00 the 14 Sep 09 at 12:51.
UbuntuStore wesh a
UbuntuStore wesh a
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Selected solution (#9):
Ubuntu AppCenter
Ubuntu AppCenter. I think this sound great...
Ubuntu AppCenter. I think this sound great...
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Selected solution (#10):
Software Market
Written by
rrnwexec the 14 Sep 09 at 16:53.
"Market" is a friendlier and potential less commercial term than Store. Think of a farmer's market, or a community market, or a flea market as examples that exist in the real world and have a spirit of exchange, with or without commerce.
"Market" is a friendlier and potential less commercial term than Store. Think of a farmer's market, or a community market, or a flea market as examples that exist in the real world and have a spirit of exchange, with or without commerce.
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Selected solution (#11):
Ubuntu SoftCenter
Written by
mfeliz the 14 Sep 09 at 18:35.
It Sounds good!
It Sounds good!
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Selected solution (#12):
Software Manager
Written by
daas88 the 14 Sep 09 at 20:34.
Because the word "manager" has a wider meaning than store, and it will have more uses than just installing software.
Because the word "manager" has a wider meaning than store, and it will have more uses than just installing software.
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Selected solution (#13):
Software Basket OR Application Basket
Written by
Riky the 16 Sep 09 at 06:50.
I think Software Basket or Application Basket sound good, it can be recognized straight away.
I think Software Basket or Application Basket sound good, it can be recognized straight away.
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Selected solution (#14):
(Ubuntu) Software Gallery / Application Gallery
I think its simple and intuitive.
I think its simple and intuitive.
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Selected solution (#15):
Install Central
Written by
Sashin the 17 Sep 09 at 11:45.
I like this name 'cause it implies its the place to install anything, fonts, updates, applications and the lot.
The word central should be easier to translate that centre/center.
And the absence of the word store takes away the potentially commercial element of it.
Most importantly, it looks and sounds cool.
I like this name 'cause it implies its the place to install anything, fonts, updates, applications and the lot.
The word central should be easier to translate that centre/center.
And the absence of the word store takes away the potentially commercial element of it.
Most importantly, it looks and sounds cool.
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Selected solution (#16):
Software Central
This resolves the UK/US spelling issues of the word Center.
This resolves the UK/US spelling issues of the word Center.
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Selected solution (#17):
Software Box
I didn't know whether I should add to the already long list of suggestions, but I wanted to approach this from a 'tad' different perspective.
I'm trying to think of a name that people can use with a sense of endearment like most of Apple's products. "Software Box" was the best thing I could come up with (as in "I need some software for X and Y"- "just look in the box").
I don't expect users to choose my idea for a name but I still want contributors to stop thinking about words that sound mechanical, dead and literal ("Software Center") and think about something more colloquial and friendly instead. Could you imagine your dad or mom saying it?
I didn't know whether I should add to the already long list of suggestions, but I wanted to approach this from a 'tad' different perspective.
I'm trying to think of a name that people can use with a sense of endearment like most of Apple's products. "Software Box" was the best thing I could come up with (as in "I need some software for X and Y"- "just look in the box").
I don't expect users to choose my idea for a name but I still want contributors to stop thinking about words that sound mechanical, dead and literal ("Software Center") and think about something more colloquial and friendly instead. Could you imagine your dad or mom saying it?
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Selected solution (#18):
UbuDepo
Written by
litokraz the 18 Sep 09 at 14:55.
In my opinion this name would simply connect the name of the operating system to what it really is: a depo of software. UbuDepo is a inuque name which can also be easily understood and pronounced almost anywhere in the world.
In my opinion this name would simply connect the name of the operating system to what it really is: a depo of software. UbuDepo is a inuque name which can also be easily understood and pronounced almost anywhere in the world.
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Selected solution (#19):
The Canonical
Just call it this!! it makes sense because this is what every piece of software calls to and this is where you will go when you need something! i really like it! :)
Just call it this!! it makes sense because this is what every piece of software calls to and this is where you will go when you need something! i really like it! :)
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Selected solution (#20):
Software OpenMarket
This keeps the term software people seem to prefer and the "friendly" market term while expressing that the software available is free and open source.
This keeps the term software people seem to prefer and the "friendly" market term while expressing that the software available is free and open source.
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Selected solution (#21):
How about Software Depot or Software Warehouse/Storehouse.
Written by
wolterh the 19 Sep 09 at 19:37.
I think the solution title says it all.
I like the Software Depot because it reminds me of Starcraft's Supply Depots. They always intrigued me.
Anyway, my other proposal is to call it Software Warehouse, but I understand that it may be highly criticized for phonetically it sounds repetitive as of softWARE WAREhouse, but that could be solved by changing Warehouse for Storehouse. Storehouse because it embeds the concept of storage (which is from where store comes from) but it gets rid of the commercial idea. Storehouse makes us think about a Warehouse, without having the phonetic problem described above.
I think the solution title says it all.
I like the Software Depot because it reminds me of Starcraft's Supply Depots. They always intrigued me.
Anyway, my other proposal is to call it Software Warehouse, but I understand that it may be highly criticized for phonetically it sounds repetitive as of softWARE WAREhouse, but that could be solved by changing Warehouse for Storehouse. Storehouse because it embeds the concept of storage (which is from where store comes from) but it gets rid of the commercial idea. Storehouse makes us think about a Warehouse, without having the phonetic problem described above.
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Selected solution (#22):
Software Kiosk
A compromise.
A compromise.
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Selected solution (#23):
Installation Manager
isn't that what it basically is doing?
isn't that what it basically is doing?
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Selected solution (#24):
Ubu soft store / Ubu softbox/ Ubu soft pot
in my opinion this may be quite simple name
because many new user like me finding bit difficult to get the name of this things
so if any 1 can suggest a simple name than is ll be a great thing..
thanks
and about last name "Ubu soft-pot"
it may mean like "container/vessel containing free software"
pot=jug,box,container,vessel in african
in my opinion this may be quite simple name
because many new user like me finding bit difficult to get the name of this things
so if any 1 can suggest a simple name than is ll be a great thing..
thanks
and about last name "Ubu soft-pot"
it may mean like "container/vessel containing free software"
pot=jug,box,container,vessel in african
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Selected solution (#25):
Software BIN
Bin is synonymous to warehouse, which means a storage place without implicitly implying commercialism.
But I think it's better than warehouse, cz somehow the name 'warehouse' just doesn't go...
Bin is synonymous to warehouse, which means a storage place without implicitly implying commercialism.
But I think it's better than warehouse, cz somehow the name 'warehouse' just doesn't go...
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Selected solution (#26):
Ubuntu S/W EpiCentre
Written by
gaara87 the 25 Sep 09 at 16:14.
Ubuntu's heart is the kernel, but the softwares and applications are responsible for making the difference between two personalised Ubuntus. Much like saying, what differentiates you from me is the way we think!
Ubuntu:Humanism is a free form of thinking where its inception lies in the difference in thinking, hence the EpiCentre of Ubuntu,much like the Mind being the EpiCentre of a Human!:-)
Ubuntu's heart is the kernel, but the softwares and applications are responsible for making the difference between two personalised Ubuntus. Much like saying, what differentiates you from me is the way we think!
Ubuntu:Humanism is a free form of thinking where its inception lies in the difference in thinking, hence the EpiCentre of Ubuntu,much like the Mind being the EpiCentre of a Human!:-)
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Selected solution (#27):
SoftwareTank
like think tank
like think tank
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Selected solution (#28):
one of these:
app treasury
software vault
app nest
software bank
app locker
software armory
app depot
software dump
app hopper
software supply
app stockpile
software barn
app arsenal
software conservatory
app boutique
software emporium
app safe
software mine
app stash
software silo
app treasury
software vault
app nest
software bank
app locker
software armory
app depot
software dump
app hopper
software supply
app stockpile
software barn
app arsenal
software conservatory
app boutique
software emporium
app safe
software mine
app stash
software silo
Finding alternatives to proprietary software is too difficult for newcomers
Written by gnarlin the 26 Nov 09 at 14:01.
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For those who are taking their first steps in Ubuntu it can be a very alien landscape to use at first. One of the problems people have is finding alternatives to well known proprietary software in the Free world. The software center is a wonderful place to start, but unless people know what they are looking for (the name of the package) they won't have an easy time finding anything. They'll probably end up installing a lot of programs from the appropriate category, but might get frustrated if they don't find anything comparable quickly.
Solution #1:
Make search results for propriatery software point to Free alternatives
Written by
gnarlin the 26 Nov 09 at 14:01.
When people search in the software center for their familiar proprietary software make the results point to comparable Free software while making it very clear that it is not the same program, just that it does the same job. This will help newcomers to Ubuntu quickly find the alternatives they are looking for.
For example. Jane does a search for Photoshop. The results show Gimp with a short highlighted text that explains that Gimp is a different program but that it will do the same job.
When people search in the software center for their familiar proprietary software make the results point to comparable Free software while making it very clear that it is not the same program, just that it does the same job. This will help newcomers to Ubuntu quickly find the alternatives they are looking for.
For example. Jane does a search for Photoshop. The results show Gimp with a short highlighted text that explains that Gimp is a different program but that it will do the same job.
Solution #2:
Add a 'Comparable to' line in the packages description
Written by
doobiest the 26 Nov 09 at 19:58.
If someone was looking at GIMP in the app center. Somewhere it should say Comparable to: Adobe Photoshop
If someone was looking at GIMP in the app center. Somewhere it should say Comparable to: Adobe Photoshop
Solution #3:
solution 1 + explain the software center during the install montage
Written by
gnarlin the 26 Nov 09 at 21:02.
In the 9.10 version of Ubuntu a feature montage was added to the installation procedure. This would be a great place to explain to new users about how to install new software after the installation is complete.
Perhaps something like (or something that is actually well written and thoughful):
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|SOFTWARE CENTER
|To install more software after installation
|Please go to the "Software Center" and browse
|for a program you wish to install in one of the
|catagories avaliable. Then just click install
|and the software center will do the rest for you
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In the 9.10 version of Ubuntu a feature montage was added to the installation procedure. This would be a great place to explain to new users about how to install new software after the installation is complete.
Perhaps something like (or something that is actually well written and thoughful):
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|SOFTWARE CENTER
|To install more software after installation
|Please go to the "Software Center" and browse
|for a program you wish to install in one of the
|catagories avaliable. Then just click install
|and the software center will do the rest for you
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Solution #4:
Compare existing windows software to alternatives upon installation of ubuntu
Written by
doobiest the 26 Nov 09 at 21:19.
In addition to solution 1 and 2 I think we should include this for the OS installation.
If installing ubuntu over a native windows install, make a list of installed windows apps. Then after ubuntu finished installing, present the user with a list of software they used to have, and a list of alternatives that they can now have. The user adds checkmarks to those they want.
This could be combined with solution #3. Not only describing to the user how ubuntu uses repositories which are centralized containing stable, secure, and community approved software, but also describes why their favorite programs like itunes are not available. intro to the idea of opensource software.
In addition to solution 1 and 2 I think we should include this for the OS installation.
If installing ubuntu over a native windows install, make a list of installed windows apps. Then after ubuntu finished installing, present the user with a list of software they used to have, and a list of alternatives that they can now have. The user adds checkmarks to those they want.
This could be combined with solution #3. Not only describing to the user how ubuntu uses repositories which are centralized containing stable, secure, and community approved software, but also describes why their favorite programs like itunes are not available. intro to the idea of opensource software.
Solution #5:
Just add more specificity and information to help guide new users
Written by
gnarlin the 29 Nov 09 at 01:18.
Perhaps just explaining the software center during the montage and adding more specific software categories in the software center. I think that the mint distro does this.
Does anyone know?
Perhaps just explaining the software center during the montage and adding more specific software categories in the software center. I think that the mint distro does this.
Does anyone know?
Solution #6:
Provide a guide on the LiveCD entitled "For those who migrate from Windows"
With the guide "For those who migrate from Windows, users could find a table in the software and also links to more detailed information.
A shortcut should be visible on the Desktop LiveCD.
With the guide "For those who migrate from Windows, users could find a table in the software and also links to more detailed information.
A shortcut should be visible on the Desktop LiveCD.
Solution #7:
Addition to #1: allow searching for generalized names
Written by
DaVince the 3 Dec 09 at 00:10.
By which I mean things like "media player", "mp3 player", "image editor" etcetera and it shows the most popular entries that are related to it first.
By which I mean things like "media player", "mp3 player", "image editor" etcetera and it shows the most popular entries that are related to it first.
Solution #8:
Create an online "wiki" to find alternatives. Access with widget or browser
Written by
g63marty the 3 Dec 09 at 02:37.
Add a "find software" widget to install in a panel or a small app to open a browser to search for linux-based software alternatives. Have the widget or application include the user's linux gui and type (kde,gnome,debian, et al) as parameter of url, so that better matches to software can be found.
Make the online Wiki improvable by the community. Add links to this search forum from ubuntu pages.
Add a "find software" widget to install in a panel or a small app to open a browser to search for linux-based software alternatives. Have the widget or application include the user's linux gui and type (kde,gnome,debian, et al) as parameter of url, so that better matches to software can be found.
Make the online Wiki improvable by the community. Add links to this search forum from ubuntu pages.
Solution #9:
Create a video that plays on the first startup
Written by
ikelewis the 3 Dec 09 at 15:52.
Create a video that plays when you first start up Ubuntu, that would describe in detail the process of getting software, connecting to the internet, etc. Also provide links and places where you could get further information, and a little about the history of open-source software. You could even have it as a playlist in Totem, so the content could be broken up into different segments and topics.
Create a video that plays when you first start up Ubuntu, that would describe in detail the process of getting software, connecting to the internet, etc. Also provide links and places where you could get further information, and a little about the history of open-source software. You could even have it as a playlist in Totem, so the content could be broken up into different segments and topics.
Solution #10:
Similer to #9
Written by
neojames the 6 Dec 09 at 20:42.
Instead of playing the video a box comes down which allows you to click it to play the video or just a short one which at the end will tell you to go to the help center where there can be a page with more in depth videos.
Instead of playing the video a box comes down which allows you to click it to play the video or just a short one which at the end will tell you to go to the help center where there can be a page with more in depth videos.
Solution #11:
Alternitive To .net
http://alternativeto.net/
It is a great site, it offers web alternative, mac alternatives, windows alternatives, and is maintained, easy to use, active, and also offers alternatives to any application
(not only iPhoto > F-Spot, but also F-Spot > Picasa, Picasa > F-Spot, OOo Writer > Abiword)
I use this site constantly, once or twice a day, conocial could support there efforts by giving them attention, and they could support us with an API of sorts, so instead of sending people to the real website, ubuntu could offer some of this functionality on the software center. or just provide a link to this site.
http://alternativeto.net/
It is a great site, it offers web alternative, mac alternatives, windows alternatives, and is maintained, easy to use, active, and also offers alternatives to any application
(not only iPhoto > F-Spot, but also F-Spot > Picasa, Picasa > F-Spot, OOo Writer > Abiword)
I use this site constantly, once or twice a day, conocial could support there efforts by giving them attention, and they could support us with an API of sorts, so instead of sending people to the real website, ubuntu could offer some of this functionality on the software center. or just provide a link to this site.
Solution #12:
Add an official website which use gdebi
Written by
Joots the 16 Dec 09 at 22:31.
See http://allmyapps.com/ubuntu-9.10/
It's easy to find an app for beginners and add a lots of advantage for ubuntu's users.
Solution #13:
Provide support for previous Mac users
Written by
poooody the 15 Dec 09 at 18:35.
As well as, as has been suggested on brainstorm before, having information about Open Source programme alternatives for Windows users, do the same for Mac users.
Have a guide on the Live CD's "Try Ubuntu" feature explaining things such as drivers (propriety and free), and explaining the Ubuntu alternatives to mac programmes which come with the install, e.g. gedit and Text Edit, Terminal and gnome-terminal, Pidgin and iChat, Rhythmbox and iTunes, etc.
As well as, as has been suggested on brainstorm before, having information about Open Source programme alternatives for Windows users, do the same for Mac users.
Have a guide on the Live CD's "Try Ubuntu" feature explaining things such as drivers (propriety and free), and explaining the Ubuntu alternatives to mac programmes which come with the install, e.g. gedit and Text Edit, Terminal and gnome-terminal, Pidgin and iChat, Rhythmbox and iTunes, etc.
Solution #14:
solution#14
Give Ubuntu ability to open applications, which are made for Windows. Even Apple did it on his Intel based computers.
Give Ubuntu ability to open applications, which are made for Windows. Even Apple did it on his Intel based computers.
Solution #15:
When searching add suggested alternatives
When you search up specific software suggest alternatives. This would be especially helpful for when you search for proprietary software that doesn't exist in ubuntu
When you search up specific software suggest alternatives. This would be especially helpful for when you search for proprietary software that doesn't exist in ubuntu
Providing a protected environment for proprietary applications
Written by LioBino the 6 Nov 09 at 14:27.
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One of the big reasons why Linux is not upheld by the lack of standard applications like photoshop or autocad. There are alternatives but they do not convince the user tries to access qye, they want to use the application for which they paid a course to learn to use it. In turn many of these applications have serious problems with piracy in the Windows environment.
Solution #1:
Providing a protected environment for proprietary applications
Written by
LioBino the 6 Nov 09 at 14:27.
If we develop an environment and a way to install applications that solve the problem of software piracy, many companies will see in Linux as an ally in producing and developing software. The Ubuntu software center tool could be developed and configured for these features.
If we develop an environment and a way to install applications that solve the problem of software piracy, many companies will see in Linux as an ally in producing and developing software. The Ubuntu software center tool could be developed and configured for these features.
Solution #2:
Ubuntu should be free and opensource to the end of the world
and promote only opensource software, besides there is no 100% protection against cracks, dissasemblers, debuggers, serial number bases and reverse engeenering. Doing that "protection system" is hopeless.
and promote only opensource software, besides there is no 100% protection against cracks, dissasemblers, debuggers, serial number bases and reverse engeenering. Doing that "protection system" is hopeless.
Game browser
Written by Gaz Davidson the 10 Aug 09 at 09:39.
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Ubuntu comes with a huge selection of games in Add/Remove Applications, but there they are all just dumped into the games category and can only be sorted by popularity.
The icons are incredibly small and there's no way to get a preview to know which ones are the most graphically advanced, browsing by genre is currently done by searching and then sifting through the results one at a time.
Gamer kids don't see Ubuntu as a gaming platform because the few modern games are buried amongst the hundreds of retro and casual games.
Solution #1:
Dedicated games browser
Have a separate, dedicated games browser to either replace or compliment the games section in Add/Remove Applications.
It could allow browsing and filtering by genre, download size and system requirements. It should provide screenshots and possibly even gameplay video in a way similar to Steam.
Over time it could be extended to include reviews and ratings, community forums, chat rooms, friends lists and instant messaging.
Have a separate, dedicated games browser to either replace or compliment the games section in Add/Remove Applications.
It could allow browsing and filtering by genre, download size and system requirements. It should provide screenshots and possibly even gameplay video in a way similar to Steam.
Over time it could be extended to include reviews and ratings, community forums, chat rooms, friends lists and instant messaging.
Solution #2:
Improve user experience for ALL applications
The Add/Remove application's GUI itself is not very impressive. It is functional for task required, but does not offer screenshots, user comments or even the ability to filter out libraries that no regular user would ever install individually.
If we are going to improve the interface for browsing/installing games, why only do it for games?
The Add/Remove application's GUI itself is not very impressive. It is functional for task required, but does not offer screenshots, user comments or even the ability to filter out libraries that no regular user would ever install individually.
If we are going to improve the interface for browsing/installing games, why only do it for games?
Solution #3:
Create a specific section within the new AppCenter
Written by
Rodrigo the 10 Aug 09 at 22:08.
I think the UBUTU community is already working in something:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter
it could be nice to have a specific section for games with, as Gaz said, some more data, that is more game related:
- requirements,
- type of game
- number of players
I think the UBUTU community is already working in something:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter
it could be nice to have a specific section for games with, as Gaz said, some more data, that is more game related:
- requirements,
- type of game
- number of players
Solution #4:
separated media browser, in which to incude games
A separate media browser could be added, with Games, Movies, Songs and other free media content. There media content could be evaluated by user votes in different aspects. A game for example could be graded in gameplay, graphics, number of players, originality ecc.. and similary for video and audio
A separate media browser could be added, with Games, Movies, Songs and other free media content. There media content could be evaluated by user votes in different aspects. A game for example could be graded in gameplay, graphics, number of players, originality ecc.. and similary for video and audio
Solution #5:
Make categories for games
Written by
ayllu the 7 Sep 09 at 01:33.
News app can have some categories to find games, for example action, sports, wiimote integration, emulators, adventure etc..
News app can have some categories to find games, for example action, sports, wiimote integration, emulators, adventure etc..
Solution #6:
Improve solution #3
Written by
Djhg2000 the 8 Sep 09 at 19:47.
Also implement performance ratings compatible with those of Windows Vista/7, i.e. if a computer gets a performance rating of 5.0 in Windows, make sure it gets 5.0 in Ubuntu.
Also implement performance ratings compatible with those of Windows Vista/7, i.e. if a computer gets a performance rating of 5.0 in Windows, make sure it gets 5.0 in Ubuntu.
"Add/Remove ..." does not imply there is more free software...
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Written by dbenc the 5 May 09 at 18:18.
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Most users switching over from Windows associate "Add/Remove" only with removing software, and believe that new software needs to be purchased at a retailer ...
"Add/Remove ..." does not imply to the user that there are thousands upon thousands of free applications available in the package repositories.
If we accept that most people who switch back to Windows from Ubuntu do so because they cannot find the software they are used to, we must make it as easy as possible for them to learn about all the alternatives available ...
Developer comments
We’ve implemented this by replacing “Add/Remove…” with “Ubuntu Software Center”. —mpt
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Selected solution (#1):
"App of the Day"
Written by
dbenc the 5 May 09 at 18:18.
A small window that appears maybe once a week (or more if the user wants to) showing some of the best-rated apps in the repositories ... possibly also pointing to reviews, guides, or other similar packages ...
A small window that appears maybe once a week (or more if the user wants to) showing some of the best-rated apps in the repositories ... possibly also pointing to reviews, guides, or other similar packages ...
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Selected solution (#2):
Rename "Add/Remove ..."
Written by
dbenc the 5 May 09 at 18:20.
Kubuntu uses "Get hot new stuff!" in some applications to draw attention to scripts/plugins and the like ... a new, flashier name will draw attention to the available software.
Kubuntu uses "Get hot new stuff!" in some applications to draw attention to scripts/plugins and the like ... a new, flashier name will draw attention to the available software.
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Selected solution (#3):
Tutorial Video
Written by
dbenc the 5 May 09 at 18:26.
A screencast on the desktop ( added after installation ) that shows how a user can add new software and that points out some of the apps available ...
A screencast on the desktop ( added after installation ) that shows how a user can add new software and that points out some of the apps available ...
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Selected solution (#4):
Tutorial Video not cluttering desktop
Written by
Ssdg the 6 May 09 at 12:05.
The main problem with stuff on the desktop is it's one time stuff and bothering every time you get on a new ubuntu PC/live cd session.
Let's put this on the live CD only and/or during the install process.
The main problem with stuff on the desktop is it's one time stuff and bothering every time you get on a new ubuntu PC/live cd session.
Let's put this on the live CD only and/or during the install process.
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Selected solution (#5):
Ubuntu Channel
Written by
Lachu the 6 May 09 at 12:20.
Open Ubuntu Channel on Youtube. Integrate some stuff of system on it. Totem might have "Ubuntu Channel" like "YouTube" tab. Firefox should offer Ubuntu Channel link on bookmarks. Synaptic can be integrated too.
Open Ubuntu Channel on Youtube. Integrate some stuff of system on it. Totem might have "Ubuntu Channel" like "YouTube" tab. Firefox should offer Ubuntu Channel link on bookmarks. Synaptic can be integrated too.
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Selected solution (#6):
Slideshow during ubuntu-installation
Written by
jeypeyy the 6 May 09 at 14:42.
During the installation of ubuntu, a slideshow should show the user things that can be hard to understand, such as how to install software. It could show a picture of add/remove... and show a text that sais something like:
"The easiest way to install software in Ubuntu is by using add/remove... Just find the software you want, click on it, press apply and you're ready to go!"
During the installation of ubuntu, a slideshow should show the user things that can be hard to understand, such as how to install software. It could show a picture of add/remove... and show a text that sais something like:
"The easiest way to install software in Ubuntu is by using add/remove... Just find the software you want, click on it, press apply and you're ready to go!"
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Selected solution (#7):
Make it clearer in "Help and support"
Written by
jeypeyy the 6 May 09 at 14:51.
"Installing software" should at least be in the common questions.
"Installing software" should at least be in the common questions.
Do not rate the popularity of default apps
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Written by ilembitov the 11 Dec 08 at 02:52.
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Ubuntu Add/Remove Software dialog provides us with ratings for each program, based on the statistics of its installation. The weird point here, is that even the apps that come from default get rated, too. Isn't that senseless? If each user installs these apps, no wonder they are the most popular? I suggest that apps from Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and other *buntu default app set do not get rated.
Solution #1:
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Solution #2:
Count the times an application is started as a measurement.
Written by
Mondane the 13 Feb 09 at 15:54.
Not all users install software (rights, etc). So it's really only usefull to count the times a user starts an application. This should of course be scaled, like opening an application 20 times in an hour shouldn't make the application more populair.
Maybe it should be a count per day, even if you start the application more times in that day.
Not all users install software (rights, etc). So it's really only usefull to count the times a user starts an application. This should of course be scaled, like opening an application 20 times in an hour shouldn't make the application more populair.
Maybe it should be a count per day, even if you start the application more times in that day.
Solution #3:
Count the times a user consciously installs a package
We want to measure user behavior, not computer behavior. Popularity points should be awarded only when a user personally selects a package for installation.
Knowing what packages a user personally selected is useful for other things, too, such as removing orphans. You can easily assume that if a user deselects a package that they previously selected for installation, all dependencies that were not also personally selected should be removed as well.
No user-selection points should be awarded for dependencies, since it is not useful to suggest that users install dependencies alone. To keep things simple, I'd say this should apply to even full applications that come as part of a package, like gnome games -- the package is what the user selected, not the individual apps. It might be useful to keep a separate statistic for popular dependencies, however.
Counting the number of times an application is started will be biased unfairly toward programs that start on their own, and against programs that you never quit. It would also bias against multiple document interface programs in favor of programs that open a new instance for each document. To normalize against this issue, you should be sure to award only one per application per day.
However, it might useful to only record a popularity point for an installed app if the user has started it at least two times ever. If you want to get even more sophisticated, allow users to upvote/downvote applications in the package manager. The interface could look like itunes starring, but it should only allow two choices since in any aggregate ratings system the extremes are the only viable options.
We want to measure user behavior, not computer behavior. Popularity points should be awarded only when a user personally selects a package for installation.
Knowing what packages a user personally selected is useful for other things, too, such as removing orphans. You can easily assume that if a user deselects a package that they previously selected for installation, all dependencies that were not also personally selected should be removed as well.
No user-selection points should be awarded for dependencies, since it is not useful to suggest that users install dependencies alone. To keep things simple, I'd say this should apply to even full applications that come as part of a package, like gnome games -- the package is what the user selected, not the individual apps. It might be useful to keep a separate statistic for popular dependencies, however.
Counting the number of times an application is started will be biased unfairly toward programs that start on their own, and against programs that you never quit. It would also bias against multiple document interface programs in favor of programs that open a new instance for each document. To normalize against this issue, you should be sure to award only one per application per day.
However, it might useful to only record a popularity point for an installed app if the user has started it at least two times ever. If you want to get even more sophisticated, allow users to upvote/downvote applications in the package manager. The interface could look like itunes starring, but it should only allow two choices since in any aggregate ratings system the extremes are the only viable options.
Show command installed packages in Add/Remove.
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Written by wish the 3 Mar 09 at 15:48.
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Add/Remove is possible the easiest tool to add or remove a software in the system.
However, for example if I installed Wine through command-line (compiling the source code) it would not be listed in Add/Remove and the Wine in Add/Remove is still not checked.
If this checking can be done it would be a lot easier to install or uninstall packages.